They cause unneeded drama and arguements over nothing.
sc2 teams can pull out at any time though if they did there is a chance that they will pressure gom into not allowing that teams players to play anymore (unliekly that it'll work).
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masterbreti
Korea (South)2711 Posts
They cause unneeded drama and arguements over nothing. sc2 teams can pull out at any time though if they did there is a chance that they will pressure gom into not allowing that teams players to play anymore (unliekly that it'll work). | ||
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On August 14 2011 14:16 GTR wrote: i don't see why everyone is blindly trying to compare sc2con to kespa. i'm pretty sure kespa didn't blackmail or insult their teams. while it is undeniable that kespa have made some very dubious decisions in the past, they uphold a clear, professional standard, something sc2con clearly isn't showing. frankly i'd rather see kespa jump in asap than sc2con continuing, as there is already the neutral infrastructure in place. i mean... i wasn't a round for it but how did they keep the teams from participating in gom tournament? it may be that there were just contracts in place that they could enforce, in which case i agree that this is just another example of sc2 scene in korea not being formalized enough yet to be a true industry | ||
Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
On August 14 2011 14:12 babylon wrote: Show nested quote + On August 14 2011 14:11 MechKing wrote: On August 14 2011 14:09 HolyArrow wrote: One thing I'm really confused about is: Who is actually governing sc2con? Are coaches/managers of various teams in on it? Who is actually in charge? For a body like sc2con, it seems like there should be some transparency, no? First I was pretty neutral toward sc2con but with direct testimony from the FXO manager himself, it seems like it's being run by some asshole(s) on a power trip. Blackmail? Insults? Seriously? I am feeling pretty disappointed and disgusted right now. I think the StarTale coach is the main guy there. He stepped down. Sheesh, can't you keep up with the drama? ![]() Apparently not lol! I have decided to stay out of all "drama" threads since the EG/Puma thing. | ||
Misanthrope
United States924 Posts
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On August 14 2011 14:16 GTR wrote: i don't see why everyone is blindly trying to compare sc2con to kespa. i'm pretty sure kespa didn't blackmail or insult their teams. while it is undeniable that kespa have made some very dubious decisions in the past, they uphold a clear, professional standard, something sc2con clearly isn't showing. frankly i'd rather see kespa jump in asap than sc2con continuing, as there is already the neutral infrastructure in place. The control levels of kespa are similar/the same. Albeit KESPA is perhaps more professional.... The bottom line is, a dictatorship may have worked in the 'old days' but it won't work on a global scene. | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 14 2011 14:08 Tatari wrote: And as for making the logo more "Korean flag like," it just doesn't make sense. GSL = Global Starcraft League, no? Why does FXO need to change their logo to fit what the Koreans want when this is a GLOBAL league? Thank you for hitting the nail on the head with this one. I don't even know who or what SC2Con is and from the sounds of it no one does. I mean SlayerS isn't in it so I got to figure thats for a good reason. | ||
Incara
United States4 Posts
On August 14 2011 14:06 Ryusei-R1 wrote: Y'know why they call him Boss? Because he's a fucking Boss. Bravo sir. I'm sorry to hear about all this. Good luck and FXO FIGHTING. ^^ | ||
thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
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DexVitality
Hong Kong234 Posts
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lbmaian
United States689 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
I'm pretty sure the players are getting hurt the most if SC2Con is blocking them from playing in more tournaments. | ||
bellhop
United States165 Posts
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On August 14 2011 14:17 Zzoram wrote: If all the NASL communications have been going through SC2Con, how do we know that SC2Con didn't purposely mislead both sides to sabotage NASL? I think NASL needs to get in touch with the teams directly and confirm that SC2Con isn't changing the message. Because teams not in sc2con are also taking the same action.... And there is a reason those teams arent in sc2con..... Sc2con had a limited 'helping hand' with the NASL debacle.. | ||
cerebralz
United States443 Posts
On a side note, whers is spunky in all of this? I thought he was one of the main guys starting S2Con, and from the interviews, was very against it becoming like kespa. | ||
Keeler
United States313 Posts
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DarkDolphin
United States102 Posts
-Also FXO boss, you should consider recording those calls, because everyone could say "Yeah X called me threating me" User was warned for this post | ||
Mars.DreaM
United States24 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On August 14 2011 14:20 cerebralz wrote: When it was started, i was led to believe that S2Con was more of a players association, rather than a governing body. If it keeps going down this road, i hope it folds quickly and something much better arises. It's a hard thing to watch unfold, but whenever people try to govern themselves, there is a process of trial and error that must be gone through to reach a final result of something good. KeSPA claims to be a player's association as well, but it doesn't act in the interest of players. | ||
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