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On August 14 2011 16:05 FXOpen wrote: Ok guys, I am going to edit my front page post now. As I now will be having a meeting with sc2con in seoul........
I will then bring up the full story after this meeting. Just so that no irreversable damage is done. Although I am not holding my breathe on a positive outcome. I feel that I will summarize my post to be plain and simple and note that I will be attending a meeting in Korea. God you're good, handling this like a boss.
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wow 've never realized the situation with sc2con were so "unproffesional". Well kinda glad u left if it goes like that really.
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Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely?
Is this a case of somebody gaining too much power and trying to abuse it?
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On August 14 2011 16:05 FXOpen wrote: Ok guys, I am going to edit my front page post now. As I now will be having a meeting with sc2con in seoul........
I will then bring up the full story after this meeting. Just so that no irreversable damage is done. Although I am not holding my breathe on a positive outcome. I feel that I will summarize my post to be plain and simple and note that I will be attending a meeting in Korea. Just make sure it is in a public area with witnesses. I kid I kid... good luck, you have been a great example of how to do things right so far, I have no doubt you will continue to be.
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On August 14 2011 16:05 FXOpen wrote: Ok guys, I am going to edit my front page post now. As I now will be having a meeting with sc2con in seoul........
I will then bring up the full story after this meeting. Just so that no irreversable damage is done. Although I am not holding my breathe on a positive outcome. I feel that I will summarize my post to be plain and simple and note that I will be attending a meeting in Korea.
Dude, just leave the association man, it doesn't sound like it's worth the headache. Unless they bowl you over or give you a real reason to stick with them.
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On August 14 2011 15:59 tuho12345 wrote: Why would you wanna be in that SC2con anyway? What benefit do you have from it? If no benefit and you have to nod your head to w/e they said so why not just leave and do what you want.
I think their power is a product of their culture. Korea is one of many collectivist countries, and thus, as a result, it is easy for organizations to swoop in and take hold without any true legal power, as long as they make it bad and "shameful" to dissent.
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On August 14 2011 16:08 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 16:05 FXOpen wrote: Ok guys, I am going to edit my front page post now. As I now will be having a meeting with sc2con in seoul........
I will then bring up the full story after this meeting. Just so that no irreversable damage is done. Although I am not holding my breathe on a positive outcome. I feel that I will summarize my post to be plain and simple and note that I will be attending a meeting in Korea. Dude, just leave the association man, it doesn't sound like it's worth the headache. Unless they bowl you over or give you a real reason to stick with them. I think he is hoping that the association is going to turn around and become what it was originally about, protecting the players. It would be beneficial for all if this association were to turn good rather than have it fall apart and have to start a new one.
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how is the player accociation standing to sc2con ? that would be intresting for me
atm it seems sc2con is on the KESPA trip and that cant be the way it should run ...
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very porud to see FXO stand up for themselves! sc2con seems to be pretty shady
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Sticking up for what is right. Well played Boss.
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is BOSS in korea now? I thought he is in malaysia.
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On August 14 2011 16:09 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2011 16:08 Defacer wrote:On August 14 2011 16:05 FXOpen wrote: Ok guys, I am going to edit my front page post now. As I now will be having a meeting with sc2con in seoul........
I will then bring up the full story after this meeting. Just so that no irreversable damage is done. Although I am not holding my breathe on a positive outcome. I feel that I will summarize my post to be plain and simple and note that I will be attending a meeting in Korea. Dude, just leave the association man, it doesn't sound like it's worth the headache. Unless they bowl you over or give you a real reason to stick with them. I think he is hoping that the association is going to turn around and become what it was originally about, protecting the players. It would be beneficial for all if this association were to turn good rather than have it fall apart and have to start a new one.
It sounds like they need entirely new management, to be frank.
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I look forward to an update of this situation. It is sad when an organization meant to inspire camaraderie between teams ends up trying to force them to do things that they don't want to do "for the sake of the organization." FXO has been a leader of western interests in the Korean scene and I hope that a mutual agreement can be reached.
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On August 14 2011 15:46 theBizness wrote: It's always a race to put out one side of the story first. We'll see. Agree with this, especially since they've agreed to another meeting, the dude apparently has a good reputation, and we've only heard one side of the story. Not saying that what Boss described would be inexcusable but alot of people jumped on the Puma situation when it turned out to be completely different and I don't want to make the same mistake twice.
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I'm in malaysia. I fly to minsk tomorrow. until 23rd. Then I will arrange to get to korea around the 10th.
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So say sc2con does become evil and messes everything up. Can a new organization be founded with impacting gsl? I'm curious if sc2con controls for lack of a better word because i know sc2con decides who can compete and etc. Basically my question is what is sc2con and gsl's relationship and can gsl run without sc2con?
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The power of Team Liquid. Serious miscommunication error possibly leading to the break up of a major gaming association got you down? Team Liquid will jump all over that and blow it up in 17 pages or less. If your situation is not corrected or horrifically blown out of proportion, you will get a 100% refund of you time wasted in the form of commemorative E-SPORT-BUCKS.
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On August 14 2011 14:01 FXOpen wrote:+ Show Spoiler + EDIT: BELOW IS BASED ON ONE PERSON ACTING ON BEHALF OF SC2CON AND IS NOT A REPRESENTATION OF THE KOREAN MANAGERS OR PLAYERS. HOWEVER SINCE THE ACTION WAS TAKEN ON BEHALF OF SC2CON, I HAVE GENERALISED
After my initial post. I have receieved alot of communication with the Korean community, including the person with whom FXO have had a huge problem with.
Although the acts that I perceived as threats and blackmail are still being perceived as such I have been requested to give a chance to the organisation, until we meet in Korea in September.
After this organisation has met. I will act with the same transparency as I have in the initial post that was posted here.
Everything that happens, plus a detailed explanation of what will happen will be posted here. Which will document the entire thing for public knowledge.
I hope I haven't upset anyone by removing this post, but I feel its best for business to take the meeting first.
Thanks for the support guys!
Peace
FXOBoSs
Looks like sometimes to get payed attention to you just have to kick down the door, huh? Good luck with the meeting; no matter the outcome you've got a fan in me. FXO Fighting!
EDIT: spoiler-tagged the quote because it's big. >.>
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On August 14 2011 16:14 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: The power of Team Liquid. Serious miscommunication error possibly leading to the break up of a major gaming association got you down? Team Liquid will jump all over that and blow it up in 17 pages or less. If your situation is not corrected or horrifically blown out of proportion, you will get a 100% refund of you time wasted in the form of commemorative E-SPORT-BUCKS. Now if only we could get all the NASL players back on board -.-
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FXO bringing hope to rebel foreigners
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