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Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 06:46:00
August 14 2011 06:45 GMT
#301
By the end of their phone conversation, SC2Con will announce that FXOBoss is their new president. LOL.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 06:46:07
August 14 2011 06:45 GMT
#302
Transparency, SC2Con needs it.
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
August 14 2011 06:46 GMT
#303
It's always a race to put out one side of the story first. We'll see.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 06:46:58
August 14 2011 06:46 GMT
#304
On August 14 2011 15:45 Defacer wrote:
By the end of their phone conversation, SC2Con will announce that FXOBoss is their new president. LOL.


That would be awesome actually, if to entice FXO to rejoin, FXOBoss got to run SC2Con lol.
whateverpeeps
Profile Joined August 2011
United States214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 06:47:38
August 14 2011 06:47 GMT
#305
On August 14 2011 15:41 sesmc wrote:
this is just absurd FXO would do some backstabbing like this, we have yet to have official words from SC2CON, and yet ppl already jumping on the band wagon.

ask yourself, is the drama good for e-sport? what will this bring to our blossoming dreams, what is the POINT????

flame on~



You can't be serious.

Well I for one, want stuff like this out in the public. It seems that if SC2Con is getting flamed, it's rightfully earned at this point.

I had no reason to believe NASL was lying, and I have even less reason to believe FXO is lying. They may be involved in distinct issues with SC2Con, but SC2Con seems to be the common denominator.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
August 14 2011 06:47 GMT
#306
On August 14 2011 15:45 Zzoram wrote:
Transparency, SC2Con needs it.


If they were transparent we'd discover it's just a small handful of managers from different teams making shit up as they go along.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
August 14 2011 06:51 GMT
#307
I don't know.. the guy Boss mentioned in op is well known as a really nice guy.
You know what I'm talking about
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 06:51:45
August 14 2011 06:51 GMT
#308
On August 14 2011 15:44 Primadog wrote:
This kind of shit have to come to the public light, the worst possible thing for ESPORTS is if power-tripping fools like that gets away with bullshit.


So true. The sooner we uncover and get rid of it, the sooner we can get something done right.

Either way, nice going FXO. I wouldn't be surprised if FXO once again took matters into their own hands and laid the foundations for a new, solid, organization. But I guess it'd be kind of lulzy to go around expecting them to shoulder and solve a problem the Korean eSports scene have had ever since the days of BW.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 14 2011 06:51 GMT
#309
On August 14 2011 15:51 namedplayer wrote:
I don't know.. the guy Boss mentioned in op is well known as a really nice guy.

Oh, finally, some potential source of information. Who is this Juneo dude?
DexVitality
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Hong Kong234 Posts
August 14 2011 06:54 GMT
#310
Oh so its a problem with only 1 person? I really wonder who this is... I assume it is someone with substantial power? :S

Anyway this situation is relatively new and nothing has come out from SC2con... so lets just see how things go.
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OSM.OneManArmy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States509 Posts
August 14 2011 06:54 GMT
#311
Honestly, with nearly all the money for GSL coming from blizzard, i think blizz should be allowed 2 control sc2con
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Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
August 14 2011 06:54 GMT
#312
On August 14 2011 15:39 Thorrissey wrote:
So much drama surrounding such a young sport. You'd think there would be more unity, good manners, and favors between respective parties. SC2 will not have an easy time growing if there is this much drama surrounding players, teams, and organizations. How do you think sponsors and organizers will feel about investing money into Starcraft 2 if this ridiculousness keeps occurring?

Well, I think a larger part of that drama IS because it is a young sport. There is very little consolidation right now, it seems like a gold rush at the moment. There is massive expansion in terms of popularity and sponsor interest, but it seems from the business side of things many of these teams or organizations have no fucking clue what they are doing and no business model (or at least not a sustainable one), especially in korea.

To make matters worse you have something that has never occurred in any other sport to my knowledge; the majority of the talent is located in a place where the majority of the interest and big dollar sponsors are not. This all makes for a somewhat chaotic situation; hopefully it well consolidate and settle down within the next year or two.
Benkestok
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark63 Posts
August 14 2011 06:55 GMT
#313
Good call man, and probs to you and the rest of FXO(<3 you). Blizzard should really step into this.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
August 14 2011 06:55 GMT
#314
While you bring up a valid argument, you also have to realize FXO sorta did just walk into Korea and acquire a team without a deeper background understanding.
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
lardroom
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1017 Posts
August 14 2011 06:55 GMT
#315
Seems like SC2con is more of a gentleman's agreement of accepted behaviours amongst SC2 teams. It's clear that they don't any legal or official power. Not joining (SlayerS) or even outright leaving SC2Con (TSL, FXO) don't appear to have too much a detrimental impact on teams. Moreover it does not bar participation into the GSL/GSTL as only GOM can determine whether individual players are banned from participation (see Saviour match fixing scandal).

From what I've seen they don't even do that great of a job in promoting the interests of the teams and players. In serving as an arbitrator/mediator between TSL and Fruitdealer&Killer they completely failed to interrogate the veracity of testimony and of easily available financial documents. Promotional events appear to be more the work of Mr. Chae and Gom rather than anything obviously put together by SC2Con (See Boxer/Yellow, Project A, Code A qualifier w/ Wolf, Doa, and John). They don't even serve to facilitate communication between the teams and other foreign leagues, which is a task I feel they should do.

I'm with the other people in this thread as being uncertain as to what they actually do or even if they are absolutely necessary. FXO and SlayerS feel as if they'd do better not being under this organization, and that's fine. The representative of SC2Con obviously failed at his job of mediation and facilitating communication. Some of the more hyperbolic statements in this thread need to be toned down, however. Team rivalries are fun and all but eSports doesn't need drama of that magnitude right now. eSports needs to be seen as stable and thriving.
ELlminator1
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia344 Posts
August 14 2011 06:55 GMT
#316
On August 14 2011 15:36 FXOpen wrote:
Our problem is with 1 person. Whom now I am in contact with.

Haha, managed to get his attention now did ya?
Good on you boss for sticking to your guns. You are the man.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DarkRise
Profile Joined November 2010
1644 Posts
August 14 2011 06:57 GMT
#317
Good Job FXO!!! Tell them whose boss :D
Kinda funny that most sc2 teams/players or GOM doesn't want anything involve with KESPA but SC2con is becoming like one. It's like dictatorship and they want to run things their way. It's sad seeing how Sc2 is growing but the drama is ruining the fun in it.
FXO fighting, you gain my respect for stepping in.
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
August 14 2011 06:57 GMT
#318
I'm sorry what is sc2con
if you can believe you can concieve
Slider954
Profile Joined March 2011
United States342 Posts
August 14 2011 06:58 GMT
#319
If the end result of this is that this Juneo person steps down or is 'fired' as head of SC2Com, that will mean that within the space of 1 week, 2 different people have had to 'step down' as the leader. Even if the rest of the committee are stand up guys, what does that say?
Best in the world at what I do
highsis
Profile Joined August 2011
259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 06:58:48
August 14 2011 06:58 GMT
#320
Kespa season 2?

I don't understand why SC2 con has to intervene and impose all stupid rules on GSL. EX. not being able to change a race for one season.
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