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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 14 2011 06:59 GMT
#321
Hey Boss, with your comment about how what they are doing won't work on a global scale, do you think the fact that you are not a Korean team is why you have been given so much trouble? Are they having a difficult time realizing how this is a global game?

Hopefully you see this and thanks in advance if you do!
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 14 2011 06:59 GMT
#322
Btw: It's silly to say the problem lies with one person. If an organization lets one idiot fuck shit up then it's their problem too. So either they all collectively have a problem, or 1 man has a problem and the rest of them have an even bigger sheep problem.
why so 진지해?
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 14 2011 06:59 GMT
#323
Why would you wanna be in that SC2con anyway? What benefit do you have from it? If no benefit and you have to nod your head to w/e they said so why not just leave and do what you want.
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
August 14 2011 07:00 GMT
#324
On August 14 2011 15:59 Rekrul wrote:
Btw: It's silly to say the problem lies with one person. If an organization lets one idiot fuck shit up then it's their problem too. So either they all collectively have a problem, or 1 man has a problem and the rest of them have an even bigger sheep problem.


Whilst I agree, because he is a representitive of the organisation. It has come to my quick attention, that alot of people in sc2con were not aware.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
August 14 2011 07:01 GMT
#325
On August 14 2011 15:58 highsis wrote:
Kespa season 2?

I don't understand why SC2 con has to intervene and impose all stupid rules on GSL. EX. not being able to change a race for one season.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure GOM can do whatever the fuck they want as far as GSL rules, if they agree to some things SC2Con wants it is because GOM wants to agree to them, not because they are forced to.
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 07:07:54
August 14 2011 07:02 GMT
#326
FXO fighting! Much respect.

From what I've seen of sc2con, they are a totally unnecessary organization that's just trying to grab power over the Korean SC2 scene. Can't fathom why they even exist.

StarCraft 2 association aims to be an official association approved by Blizzard, and it will deal with the following: Protection of rights for the gamers and teams, operations of StarCraft 2 team's business-league sponsor, arbitrator for when there is an issue between a gamer and a team, and furthering the popularity of StarCraft 2 leagues that are linked with Blizzard-GomTV (editor's note: this most likely means, leagues that opened legit with permission from them).


Does forcing FXO to change their name to FXO Korea further any of the following?
Protection of rights : Nope.
Relation with sponsors : ?
Arbitrator between gamer / team : Nope.
Furthering popularity : Nope.

Does mandating Korea flags on jerseys do any of the following?
Protection of rights : Nope.
Relation with sponsors : ?
Arbitrator between gamer / team : Nope.
Furthering popularity : Nope.

So is it the sponsors? Or is sc2con just a powerhungry monster?
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 14 2011 07:03 GMT
#327
On August 14 2011 16:00 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 15:59 Rekrul wrote:
Btw: It's silly to say the problem lies with one person. If an organization lets one idiot fuck shit up then it's their problem too. So either they all collectively have a problem, or 1 man has a problem and the rest of them have an even bigger sheep problem.


Whilst I agree, because he is a representitive of the organisation. It has come to my quick attention, that alot of people in sc2con were not aware.


Not aware of what? The entire needless stream of drama and horrible business decisions coming out of sc2con for like weeks straight now?
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
August 14 2011 07:04 GMT
#328
My own situation is all I talk about pat.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 14 2011 07:05 GMT
#329
On August 14 2011 15:08 Craminit wrote:
How does leaving sc2con affect FXO? Do you guys lose benefits? Or is it just symbolic


Symbolic more than anything really.
We talkin about PRACTICE
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 14 2011 07:05 GMT
#330
On August 14 2011 16:04 FXOpen wrote:
My own situation is all I talk about pat.


Yeah that is what I figured, still in my personal opinion does not correct other problems they have had. I'm on board with Rekrul on this. Thanks for clearing it up .
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
wenyuan
Profile Joined December 2009
United States118 Posts
August 14 2011 07:05 GMT
#331
FXO I believe in you!
I am not the one to judge on sc2con so I don't want to comment on either way. If he is dealing with one person and rest doesnt know, then I can't judge yet.
Liquid'HerO <3
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
August 14 2011 07:05 GMT
#332
Ok guys, I am going to edit my front page post now. As I now will be having a meeting with sc2con in seoul........

I will then bring up the full story after this meeting. Just so that no irreversable damage is done. Although I am not holding my breathe on a positive outcome. I feel that I will summarize my post to be plain and simple and note that I will be attending a meeting in Korea.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Bear4188
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1797 Posts
August 14 2011 07:06 GMT
#333
On August 14 2011 16:01 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 15:58 highsis wrote:
Kespa season 2?

I don't understand why SC2 con has to intervene and impose all stupid rules on GSL. EX. not being able to change a race for one season.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure GOM can do whatever the fuck they want as far as GSL rules, if they agree to some things SC2Con wants it is because GOM wants to agree to them, not because they are forced to.


As far as SC2 in Korea is concerned the only people above GOM (license holder for all SC2 broadcasts/major tournaments) is Blizzard itself.
"I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something." - R. Feynman
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 14 2011 07:06 GMT
#334
I love how the same mistakes are constantly repeated throughout history.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
August 14 2011 07:06 GMT
#335
While i understand most of the concerns, i don't understand why pro gamers complain about getting phone calls at 12am .. i mean 8 am would be rude for any pro, but this is just fair ..
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-14 07:07:13
August 14 2011 07:06 GMT
#336
On August 14 2011 16:03 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 16:00 FXOpen wrote:
On August 14 2011 15:59 Rekrul wrote:
Btw: It's silly to say the problem lies with one person. If an organization lets one idiot fuck shit up then it's their problem too. So either they all collectively have a problem, or 1 man has a problem and the rest of them have an even bigger sheep problem.


Whilst I agree, because he is a representitive of the organisation. It has come to my quick attention, that alot of people in sc2con were not aware.


Not aware of what? The entire needless stream of drama and horrible business decisions coming out of sc2con for like weeks straight now?


I think he meant, "The other members weren't aware this one guy was acting particularly douche-y by refusing to deal with owner/boss of one of the association's teams."
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
August 14 2011 07:07 GMT
#337
On August 14 2011 16:05 FXOpen wrote:
Ok guys, I am going to edit my front page post now. As I now will be having a meeting with sc2con in seoul........

I will then bring up the full story after this meeting. Just so that no irreversable damage is done. Although I am not holding my breathe on a positive outcome. I feel that I will summarize my post to be plain and simple and note that I will be attending a meeting in Korea.

Good luck! I'm hoping we hear good news, or more good news than bad news.
Liquipedia
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
August 14 2011 07:07 GMT
#338
On August 14 2011 15:51 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 15:51 namedplayer wrote:
I don't know.. the guy Boss mentioned in op is well known as a really nice guy.

Oh, finally, some potential source of information. Who is this Juneo dude?


I don't know. he was the former Prime coach.
You know what I'm talking about
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 14 2011 07:07 GMT
#339
On August 14 2011 16:05 FXOpen wrote:
Ok guys, I am going to edit my front page post now. As I now will be having a meeting with sc2con in seoul........

I will then bring up the full story after this meeting. Just so that no irreversable damage is done. Although I am not holding my breathe on a positive outcome. I feel that I will summarize my post to be plain and simple and note that I will be attending a meeting in Korea.


Best of luck, hopefully changes come from this meeting!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9165 Posts
August 14 2011 07:07 GMT
#340
On August 14 2011 16:05 FXOpen wrote:
Ok guys, I am going to edit my front page post now. As I now will be having a meeting with sc2con in seoul........

I will then bring up the full story after this meeting. Just so that no irreversable damage is done. Although I am not holding my breathe on a positive outcome. I feel that I will summarize my post to be plain and simple and note that I will be attending a meeting in Korea.


Good hunting. Hopefully they are able to clarify their policy positions and the future disposition of this individual representative to your satisfaction.
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
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