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They should really get the facts straight before making a decision.
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There ya go TSL. Bout time.
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Thanks for the translation.
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On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him.
Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns.
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Thank you for posting this and cleaning up the entire mess of the situation. I expect that poor translations/ exagerated translations will continue to be the norm in ESPORTS. Until the people (players, translators, coaches, team officials, ESPORTS officials) who are involved actually care about what they are posting/saying/translating we will continue to see brou ha has much like the TSL situation. boo hoo!
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On August 11 2011 06:22 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him. Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns.
It's no secret that FD has poor commitment to practice/sc - I highly doubt he will stay in code A much longer what with all the people in code b that simply WANT it more than him.
I love him, but I don't know... he has problems - again, not exactly a secret >.>
FruityD clean up your act man!
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On August 11 2011 06:22 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him. Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns.
I'll tell you what kind of team would want players with POTENTIAL than two soon-to-be irrelevant code A and S players - Slayers would.
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So this is actually TSL4. Hope y'all are enjoying the show.
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On August 11 2011 12:21 MildSeven wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 06:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him. Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns. I'll tell you what kind of team would want players with POTENTIAL than two soon-to-be irrelevant code A and S players - Slayers would.
Right because players with potential have a better chance of getting into code A and CODE S (!!!) than two players who are already there have of staying.
Oh wait...
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On August 11 2011 14:12 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 12:21 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 06:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him. Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns. I'll tell you what kind of team would want players with POTENTIAL than two soon-to-be irrelevant code A and S players - Slayers would. Right because players with potential have a better chance of getting into code A and CODE S (!!!) than two players who are already there have of staying. Oh wait...
potential has nothing to do with whether or not you're already in, i guess you still can't comprehend the definition of potential. According to your silly logic, every player in Code S and Code A deserves to be where they are in terms of skills and potential, according to your logic, results and skills are perfectly parrallel. Is that what you're saying?
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On August 11 2011 16:19 MildSeven wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 14:12 Doodsmack wrote:On August 11 2011 12:21 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 06:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him. Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns. I'll tell you what kind of team would want players with POTENTIAL than two soon-to-be irrelevant code A and S players - Slayers would. Right because players with potential have a better chance of getting into code A and CODE S (!!!) than two players who are already there have of staying. Oh wait... potential has nothing to do with whether or not you're already in, i guess you still can't comprehend the definition of potential. According to your silly logic, every player in Code S and Code A deserves to be where they are in terms of skills and potential, according to your logic, results and skills are perfectly parrallel. Is that what you're saying?
I'm just being realistic and saying that if a team has an opportunity to get players who are already in Code A and Code S they will obviously jump on it. These teams also know that players with "potential" unfortunately still face long odds of making Code A, let alone Code S. Players who are already in Code A and Code S are far from irrelevant, to claim otherwise is just not a well thought-out statement.
And to claim that I don't know the definition of potential...lol I love the way people make their arguments on the internet.
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On August 12 2011 00:32 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2011 16:19 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 14:12 Doodsmack wrote:On August 11 2011 12:21 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 06:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him. Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns. I'll tell you what kind of team would want players with POTENTIAL than two soon-to-be irrelevant code A and S players - Slayers would. Right because players with potential have a better chance of getting into code A and CODE S (!!!) than two players who are already there have of staying. Oh wait... potential has nothing to do with whether or not you're already in, i guess you still can't comprehend the definition of potential. According to your silly logic, every player in Code S and Code A deserves to be where they are in terms of skills and potential, according to your logic, results and skills are perfectly parrallel. Is that what you're saying? I'm just being realistic and saying that if a team has an opportunity to get players who are already in Code A and Code S they will obviously jump on it. These teams also know that players with "potential" unfortunately still face long odds of making Code A, let alone Code S. Players who are already in Code A and Code S are far from irrelevant, to claim otherwise is just not a well thought-out statement. And to claim that I don't know the definition of potential...lol I love the way people make their arguments on the internet.
Ok look, staying in Coda A and Code S is way easier than getting in code A from code B. Let's say DRG and FD are both free, neither of them having a team. One is in code B having a huge potential of being a future GSL champion, one is already in code S but performing poorly and doesn't have a slightest chance of winning the whole thing, which one are you gonna choose??? The one with the more potential? yes? DRG? these RANDOM UNKNOWNS has way more values than those staying in code S due to their prior results but having a downhill perfomence.
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On August 09 2011 22:07 Kaiwa wrote:
Was already surprised that Coach Lee would do such stuff. FruitDealer and Tester staying classy -_-
Did you read it at all? Did any of you read it? It pretty much states that the an investigation took place and Tester along with FD were found out. Their story didn't add up, no money was takin from them. Tester and FD were in the wrong, Coach Lee is not in the wrong at all.
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On August 12 2011 00:53 Yareq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2011 22:07 Kaiwa wrote:
Was already surprised that Coach Lee would do such stuff. FruitDealer and Tester staying classy -_- Did you read it at all? Did any of you read it? It pretty much states that the an investigation took place and Tester along with FD were found out. Their story didn't add up, no money was takin from them. Tester and FD were in the wrong, Coach Lee is not in the wrong at all.
You need to look up what sarcasm is.
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On August 11 2011 12:49 Klogon wrote:
So this is actually TSL4. Hope y'all are enjoying the show.
This is a back and forth drama match like no other
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On August 12 2011 00:42 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 00:32 Doodsmack wrote:On August 11 2011 16:19 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 14:12 Doodsmack wrote:On August 11 2011 12:21 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 06:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him. Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns. I'll tell you what kind of team would want players with POTENTIAL than two soon-to-be irrelevant code A and S players - Slayers would. Right because players with potential have a better chance of getting into code A and CODE S (!!!) than two players who are already there have of staying. Oh wait... potential has nothing to do with whether or not you're already in, i guess you still can't comprehend the definition of potential. According to your silly logic, every player in Code S and Code A deserves to be where they are in terms of skills and potential, according to your logic, results and skills are perfectly parrallel. Is that what you're saying? I'm just being realistic and saying that if a team has an opportunity to get players who are already in Code A and Code S they will obviously jump on it. These teams also know that players with "potential" unfortunately still face long odds of making Code A, let alone Code S. Players who are already in Code A and Code S are far from irrelevant, to claim otherwise is just not a well thought-out statement. And to claim that I don't know the definition of potential...lol I love the way people make their arguments on the internet. Ok look, staying in Coda A and Code S is way easier than getting in code A from code B. Let's say DRG and FD are both free, neither of them having a team. One is in code B having a huge potential of being a future GSL champion, one is already in code S but performing poorly and doesn't have a slightest chance of winning the whole thing, which one are you gonna choose??? The one with the more potential? yes? DRG? these RANDOM UNKNOWNS has way more values than those staying in code S due to their prior results but having a downhill perfomence.
The example of DRG is irrelevant since he is in fact not on a team so ST can't pick him up. Even if he was a free agent, though, your assumption that he is more valuable than a code S player is highly questionable. No smart coach is going to assume that DRG is destined to become a gsl champion and that their code s player is destined to fall to code b. That's not a smart way to play the odds (and indeed, DRG lost in the ro16). But again, DRG is an extreme and irrelevant example.
Its fine if you have a negative opinion of FD and tester's behavior outside the game, but its simply incorrect to call them irrelevant as players. To do so is to become a hater.
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On August 12 2011 00:42 brachester wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 00:32 Doodsmack wrote:On August 11 2011 16:19 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 14:12 Doodsmack wrote:On August 11 2011 12:21 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 06:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him. Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns. I'll tell you what kind of team would want players with POTENTIAL than two soon-to-be irrelevant code A and S players - Slayers would. Right because players with potential have a better chance of getting into code A and CODE S (!!!) than two players who are already there have of staying. Oh wait... potential has nothing to do with whether or not you're already in, i guess you still can't comprehend the definition of potential. According to your silly logic, every player in Code S and Code A deserves to be where they are in terms of skills and potential, according to your logic, results and skills are perfectly parrallel. Is that what you're saying? I'm just being realistic and saying that if a team has an opportunity to get players who are already in Code A and Code S they will obviously jump on it. These teams also know that players with "potential" unfortunately still face long odds of making Code A, let alone Code S. Players who are already in Code A and Code S are far from irrelevant, to claim otherwise is just not a well thought-out statement. And to claim that I don't know the definition of potential...lol I love the way people make their arguments on the internet. Ok look, staying in Coda A and Code S is way easier than getting in code A from code B. Let's say DRG and FD are both free, neither of them having a team. One is in code B having a huge potential of being a future GSL champion, one is already in code S but performing poorly and doesn't have a slightest chance of winning the whole thing, which one are you gonna choose??? The one with the more potential? yes? DRG? these RANDOM UNKNOWNS has way more values than those staying in code S due to their prior results but having a downhill perfomence.
The example of DRG is irrelevant since he is in fact on a team so ST can't pick him up. Even if he was a free agent, though, your assumption that he is more valuable than a code S player is highly questionable. No smart coach is going to assume that a code s player is destined to fall to code b and a code a player is destined to become a gsl champion, no matter who they are. It's not a smart way to play the odds in sc2. But again, DRG is an extreme and irrelevant example.
It's fine if you have a negative opinion of FD and tester's behavior outside the game, but it's simply incorrect to call them irrelevant as players. To do so is to become a hater.
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My guess is FD and Tester weren't comfortable in such environment, where they couldn't mastrubate at least twice a day, and ultimately, this happened.
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On August 12 2011 03:42 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2011 00:42 brachester wrote:On August 12 2011 00:32 Doodsmack wrote:On August 11 2011 16:19 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 14:12 Doodsmack wrote:On August 11 2011 12:21 MildSeven wrote:On August 11 2011 06:22 Doodsmack wrote:On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A. Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him. Yeah what team would want players who are in Code A and Code S? Those guys are irrelevant! Startale should replace them with random unknowns. I'll tell you what kind of team would want players with POTENTIAL than two soon-to-be irrelevant code A and S players - Slayers would. Right because players with potential have a better chance of getting into code A and CODE S (!!!) than two players who are already there have of staying. Oh wait... potential has nothing to do with whether or not you're already in, i guess you still can't comprehend the definition of potential. According to your silly logic, every player in Code S and Code A deserves to be where they are in terms of skills and potential, according to your logic, results and skills are perfectly parrallel. Is that what you're saying? I'm just being realistic and saying that if a team has an opportunity to get players who are already in Code A and Code S they will obviously jump on it. These teams also know that players with "potential" unfortunately still face long odds of making Code A, let alone Code S. Players who are already in Code A and Code S are far from irrelevant, to claim otherwise is just not a well thought-out statement. And to claim that I don't know the definition of potential...lol I love the way people make their arguments on the internet. Ok look, staying in Coda A and Code S is way easier than getting in code A from code B. Let's say DRG and FD are both free, neither of them having a team. One is in code B having a huge potential of being a future GSL champion, one is already in code S but performing poorly and doesn't have a slightest chance of winning the whole thing, which one are you gonna choose??? The one with the more potential? yes? DRG? these RANDOM UNKNOWNS has way more values than those staying in code S due to their prior results but having a downhill perfomence. The example of DRG is irrelevant since he is in fact on a team so ST can't pick him up. Even if he was a free agent, though, your assumption that he is more valuable than a code S player is highly questionable. No smart coach is going to assume that a code s player is destined to fall to code b and a code a player is destined to become a gsl champion, no matter who they are. It's not a smart way to play the odds in sc2. But again, DRG is an extreme and irrelevant example. It's fine if you have a negative opinion of FD and tester's behavior outside the game, but it's simply incorrect to call them irrelevant as players. To do so is to become a hater.
why is it irrelevant, he's a perfect example of an upcoming players who can play on par with gsl champions = potential? please do give reasons why it is irrelevent. Talk about smart coach, let's say you have a player in code S (e.g. FD) who is actually very shit but is still in GSL due to the system that it is very hard to drop down, do you really want him to stay in your team techniquely?? since it is hard to drop down at the same time, hard to win, he's always a bottom code S player that will never get anywhere. While for a potential player (e.g.DRG), who has showed caliber of top koreans, just not lucky enough to get to code A, since code B is really 50/50 tbh. If he somehow manage in to code A (which will happen eventually which it did), he can player really good, because now he has a mark that he can rely on, like he just need to win the R32 to stay in code A. He can even win the whole code A (assume that he has the skills like DRG). Its just like in normal sports, old players usually got ditched at the end of their carriers no matter how good they still are, to be replaced by the younger players (e.g. current brazil team).
My question to you is why is it not smart to destine on a player that have much more chances to be more successful than an old player that have proved all he has got but still not enough? Why is my example irrelevent? Please give evidence, don't just claim it is not smart by doing that.
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