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cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
August 10 2011 07:35 GMT
#361
haha, this is soooooo stupid^^
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
August 10 2011 07:38 GMT
#362
I already mentioned in the other post that we won't know the truth unless Lee gets audited, and in this case he simply handed over all the bank statements, bills, etc.

Tester and FD are lazy fucks, even if salary was withheld, i reinforce my other post that they should be punished that way regardless of legality especially when they were the most respected players on the team, but this is not the case, they seemed to have had their salaries paid, etc.

MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
August 10 2011 07:48 GMT
#363
On August 09 2011 22:17 TehForce wrote:
now its total confusion and nobody knows what happened except the involved persons. don't know what to think of the whole situation with TSL / FD+Tester / SC2 Association.


Bro, can you not read? All the bank statements, bills, etc have been released, the victmized party has been cleared of all accusations, startale coach owned up to his rash mistake. What "confusions" are there... Are you slow or what? I really have an obsessive compulsive disorder when it comes to dumb comments like that, it's like some people either really don't get it, or intuitively wants to stir up more controversies out of nothing.
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
August 10 2011 07:49 GMT
#364
On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue


I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A.

Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him.
Thune
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria129 Posts
August 10 2011 08:18 GMT
#365
lol i dont believe that there are so many things that can be misunderstood ... strange - i dont know what to believe now ...
Drxz
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia115 Posts
August 10 2011 08:49 GMT
#366
I think that we should rename TSL to TDL Team Drama life.

But in all seriousness its good to see that they have properly explored the issue and have come to the bottom of it.

Luck is oftentimes greater than skill
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
August 10 2011 10:30 GMT
#367
On August 10 2011 16:49 MildSeven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2011 22:16 akalarry wrote:
i don't even know why startale picked up fd or tester. they've been irrelevant since as long as i can remember, and their attitude towards the game (the reason they left ogs) would make them less than desired. maybe startale thought they could ride on the marketing of fd's season 1 win 12 months ago? no fucking clue


I agree, they have been irrelevant, and i have never once been impressed by either of their play. FD dropped to Code A which makes perfect sense, i was really surprised he even won against maru to stay in code A.

Tester lingers on to Code S always through well-thought-out two base plays, but this guy will never ever be a champion, can't see a glimpse of that potential in him.

Because Tester and FD are startale coach's friends, he said: to him, they're like brothers etc.
I hate all this singing
DanCaek
Profile Joined July 2011
Lebanon71 Posts
August 10 2011 11:15 GMT
#368
Awesome roller coaster ride!!! Well I'm glad all has been revealed, and I really liked how Startales coach apologized.
Gotta give it to the Koreans, they are very decent when it comes to handling anything I suppose.
Anything unrelated to elephants
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
August 10 2011 12:23 GMT
#369
On August 09 2011 22:10 TimeFlighT wrote:
Coach Lee is now proven innocent.

Shame to all the people in that TSL thread that said Coach Lee is a disgrace to SC2.


I personally apologize for my opinions about the situation, but you must understand we as players were fed the same falsified information that the committee received

As such, I do not feel shame, only embarassment. I am not ashamed of my thought process in the matter
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
GeorgeyBeats
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom338 Posts
August 10 2011 13:25 GMT
#370
It would have been sad to lose a pro team from korea.
Im hoping to see more stars come out of this team in the future :D
Also, im glad coach lee's reputation has been cleared up
How many bears could bear grylls grill if bear grylls coud grill bears?
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
August 10 2011 13:49 GMT
#371
it's nice to see Coach Lee's image restored and the truth come out
boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
August 10 2011 14:01 GMT
#372
It's finally done.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 10 2011 14:35 GMT
#373
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named 2.0 (albeit potentially unintentionally)

Either way looks like bandwagon spirit is not only strong within netizens, but rather unfortunately omnipresent.

"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
GeedrAhsc
Profile Joined July 2011
United States97 Posts
August 10 2011 15:43 GMT
#374
Extremely unfortunate that people feel the need to pull these tricks that cause unnecessary drama. I'm glad that Coach Lee's name has been cleared, though. Hopefully this will be the end of it all.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
August 10 2011 16:13 GMT
#375
On August 10 2011 23:35 Hesmyrr wrote:
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named 2.0 (albeit potentially unintentionally)

Either way looks like bandwagon spirit is not only strong within netizens, but rather unfortunately omnipresent.



Damn will people stfu about 'bandwagon'; already, with the information we knew Coach Lee was a dick. So people said this, now this has been cleared up and Coach Lee has done nothing one so people are supporting him, this has nothing to do with a bandwagon, this is because the information that has been known at the time has altered people's opinions of him.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 10 2011 16:19 GMT
#376
On August 11 2011 01:13 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 23:35 Hesmyrr wrote:
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named 2.0 (albeit potentially unintentionally)

Either way looks like bandwagon spirit is not only strong within netizens, but rather unfortunately omnipresent.



Damn will people stfu about 'bandwagon'; already, with the information we knew Coach Lee was a dick. So people said this, now this has been cleared up and Coach Lee has done nothing one so people are supporting him, this has nothing to do with a bandwagon, this is because the information that has been known at the time has altered people's opinions of him.


You don't call people dicks based off incomplete information from one side. Has everything to do with bandwagon
vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
August 10 2011 16:28 GMT
#377
if this was kespa they'd protect their ego and make sure non of these information were leaked out.
what quote?
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 16:59:25
August 10 2011 16:52 GMT
#378
On August 11 2011 01:13 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2011 23:35 Hesmyrr wrote:
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named 2.0 (albeit potentially unintentionally)

Either way looks like bandwagon spirit is not only strong within netizens, but rather unfortunately omnipresent.



Damn will people stfu about 'bandwagon'; already, with the information we knew Coach Lee was a dick. So people said this, now this has been cleared up and Coach Lee has done nothing one so people are supporting him, this has nothing to do with a bandwagon, this is because the information that has been known at the time has altered people's opinions of him.


Maybe people should withold judging people harshly until you have more than a few quotes from a korean article to base it on, ey?
esre
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland109 Posts
August 10 2011 17:41 GMT
#379
Respect to coach won taking ownership, not easy to acknowledge your mistakes and apologise like that.
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show. -Idra"
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
August 10 2011 18:24 GMT
#380
I think I may have to begin ignoring the business side of sc2 in korea because its turning out like kespa and all that ever did was make me highly angry.
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