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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 14:51:55
August 04 2011 14:51 GMT
#361
I understand where TSL is coming from though. They paid FD/Tester the most amount of money any Korean was making at the time and they return the favor by not practicing. If I was the coach I would be strongly inclined to withholding some money from them. It's a team environment.

I realize it's not correct in a business mean but still. The team was in such a poor financal state that players like SangHo and Clide were giving money back to the team to help support it.

Also I spoke with SangHo on skype and he said that everything is normal and they are practicing for their GSTL match with oGs....so maybe the influence of the SC2PA is overestimated?


That is what someone said on Reddit

Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
August 04 2011 14:52 GMT
#362
Coach Lee looks worse and worse. It's sad EG got all this garbage seeing how Coach Lee behaves himself.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 04 2011 14:53 GMT
#363
On August 04 2011 23:40 xBillehx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 23:32 Telcontar wrote:
On August 04 2011 23:30 Theeakoz wrote:
Well, this is sad but I think it wouldd help the starcraft 2 community in korea in getting more serious.
Also, I did not know that junwi is the president of the SC2 association.

He's the president of the SC2 Players Association. Not sure who has that title for SC2 Conference or if it even has one.

Coach of StarTale, Won Joong Wook. Can read more here. Interestingly enough Fruitdealer & Tester are now on StarTale too.

this might explains alot of things. Coach Won may judge things in favor of his new players, showing in that TSL doesnt have any day to appeal the decision. Coach Lee is so professional, thats why he would go apeshit over alot of unprofessional things like approaching player behind his back or sc2con being a biased bunch (like fxo suggested)
To be fair, If you were Coach lee, would you pay 2 lazy asses who show almost zero results, rather than use that fund wisely to build the team ? I would not. (considering the players arent contract-bounded). TSL players must be fed up with the duo as well, theyr all with Coach Lee
Xenogears
Profile Joined July 2011
France87 Posts
August 04 2011 14:54 GMT
#364
Always knew coach Lee was a weirdo, so glad this happened.

In the face of all the EG haters trying to make coach lee the best lad in the world...
MVP :)
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 04 2011 14:55 GMT
#365
SC2PA? :O This is news to me.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
August 04 2011 14:57 GMT
#366
On August 04 2011 23:54 Xenogears wrote:
Always knew coach Lee was a weirdo, so glad this happened.

In the face of all the EG haters trying to make coach lee the best lad in the world...

What the fuck?

If EG did the whole 'recruit the player, fuck his coach' to any other team, there would still be 'haters'.
DDAngelo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States71 Posts
August 04 2011 14:57 GMT
#367
This is kind of off topic but does it bother anyone that these "two highest paid players" were only making (the equivalent of) $31,000 a year? I make more than that at my entry-level job that I got without a college degree.
Nietzsche is dead. Go figure.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 15:02:48
August 04 2011 15:01 GMT
#368
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Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
August 04 2011 15:01 GMT
#369
On August 04 2011 23:57 DDAngelo wrote:
This is kind of off topic but does it bother anyone that these "two highest paid players" were only making (the equivalent of) $31,000 a year? I make more than that at my entry-level job that I got without a college degree.


This is 31k$ paid in cash just for being there. They also have tournament winnings and travel allowances etc. Nevermind that they probably like their job more than you ever will.
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
August 04 2011 15:02 GMT
#370
I am not liking where this SC2 scene is going but you know what, I could care a lot less and so I will. I urge all TLers not to care and let this crap unfold as it must In the end of it all we still have blizzard <3
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
August 04 2011 15:02 GMT
#371
On August 04 2011 23:57 DDAngelo wrote:
This is kind of off topic but does it bother anyone that these "two highest paid players" were only making (the equivalent of) $31,000 a year? I make more than that at my entry-level job that I got without a college degree.
Well, you have to add no rent or food costs as well as a maid and cook, to paint a fair picture. That should be worth something.


But that said, your concerns are still valid - the Korean scene isn't exactly bathing in money right now.


These guys aren't playing SC2 to get rich, they're playing it because they love the game (and a handful of guys will have made good money when all is said and done).
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
August 04 2011 15:03 GMT
#372
On August 05 2011 00:01 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 23:57 DDAngelo wrote:
This is kind of off topic but does it bother anyone that these "two highest paid players" were only making (the equivalent of) $31,000 a year? I make more than that at my entry-level job that I got without a college degree.


This is 31k$ paid in cash just for being there. They also have tournament winnings and travel allowances etc. Nevermind that they probably like their job more than you ever will.



apparently they don't since they left TSL.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 04 2011 15:04 GMT
#373
On August 04 2011 23:57 DDAngelo wrote:
This is kind of off topic but does it bother anyone that these "two highest paid players" were only making (the equivalent of) $31,000 a year? I make more than that at my entry-level job that I got without a college degree.

Yeah there's not much money in it at the moment. When you factor in prize money (for the select few players who regularly make Ro8+) and the fact that food and accommodation are taken care of, it looks a bit better, but right now there's just not much money. You can see why players want to join foreign teams, compare what the average player on a Korean team gets to what the EG guys get.
Tanatos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States381 Posts
August 04 2011 15:05 GMT
#374
I really hope coach Lee realize how important it is to have a writen contract. One piece of paper would prevent all these masses.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
August 04 2011 15:06 GMT
#375
How much influence the SC2PA actually has? What they even mean by 'taking additional action'
Justanx
Profile Joined November 2010
United States240 Posts
August 04 2011 15:07 GMT
#376
I believe the Sob Story from coach lee has run its course. Now some of the facts are coming to light. Even when it was brought up about FD and Trick during the EG/Puma drama. All the QQ for TSL and the honor system didn't mean dick to Lee. I wonder how much of Puma's purse form NASL went into Lee's pocket. Where was Milkis on this story. How was this not relevant to the point of TSL vs EG. Puma already saw the writing on the wall, but none of this was reported. I think ALex was right in telling Milkis to check some facts before releasing his "FIRST" story.
Ding Dong Usama is dead
Aldin_D2x
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada55 Posts
August 04 2011 15:07 GMT
#377
This whole fiasco definitely brings light to, and makes me think differently about the Puma and EG circumstances. Regardless, it has become abundantly clear that Mr. Lee is tilting and is not longer a good fit to manage the team.

I foresee, within the near future, the disbandment of Team SCV Life.
If someone comes at you with a sword, run if you can. Kung Fu doesnt always work. - Bruce Lee
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
August 04 2011 15:08 GMT
#378
Too much hate on Coach Lee.

I support TSL and their actions 100%.

Although I love both Fruitdealer and Trickster, they don't deserve whatever they want. The SC2PA seems like an extremely unprofessional organisation that uses the standard Korean "quick judgement, no forgiveness" cultural ideology.

I could be totally wrong and Coach Lee could turn out to be a huge dick, but right now the evidence brought forward isn't that convincing either way.

Also, stuff like this only stunts the growth of SC2 in Korea. I don't know why they make a big fucking deal about every single thing, just leave it alone.
lalala
Khanz
Profile Joined April 2010
France214 Posts
August 04 2011 15:14 GMT
#379
Coach lee seemed very weird since his scandal and I didn't like the following moves he did...

but this SC2con/pa looks a bit cheesy / oligarchy (-like?)
Don't worry, zombies eat brains. You're safe
Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
August 04 2011 15:14 GMT
#380
Why the hell are all the dimwit EG fanboys even in this at all? Holy shit, this is ridiculous.
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