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rwadams
Profile Joined April 2010
United States31 Posts
August 02 2011 16:42 GMT
#141
I think a lot of people here may be missing the point. I dont think Day would go up and talk strats. I think he would talk about the community and the way esports has changed peoples lives, including his. And about how people can take this game at more than face value and turn it into something incredible
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Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
August 02 2011 16:42 GMT
#142
Hmm. I really think esports does need an iconic speech or event that is concise where Esports is explained to the masses. I think that there are so many people in the world who just blatantly haven't even heard or even thought something like this would exist... I don't know if TED is the right platform or not but I think if this were to happen it would be amazing
You can think I'm wrong, but that's no reason to quit thinking.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 02 2011 16:44 GMT
#143
On August 03 2011 01:41 skeldark wrote:
most of the other people there try to fight hunger, work for peace , improve science and philosophy

and you think day9 should be nr.1? a guy that cast video games?
The most important thing we work on in our lives: improve in a video game.
would be a great day for esport, and a sad day for mankind...


Exactly.

TED would help boost E-Sports, but that's not the purpose of TED. TED doing a talk on Badminton would be great for Badminton, but that's not the purpose of TED.

The fact is people attend TED for a reason. It costs a large amount of money to go. People there actually care about the quality of our education, the future of our society, etc. Someone has to convince me how E-Sports fits TED's audience, not how TED would be great to promote SC2.
sebsejr
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
213 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 16:45:50
August 02 2011 16:44 GMT
#144
debating the idea over and over again in my head, not sure what to think.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
August 02 2011 16:44 GMT
#145
If anyone could do it, it would be Day9 because he's the most influential person in sc2 and a great public speaker.
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FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 02 2011 16:44 GMT
#146
On August 03 2011 01:42 Zeri wrote:
Hmm. I really think esports does need an iconic speech or event that is concise where Esports is explained to the masses.


And that's not the purpose of TED. That's the position most people are taking here but it is the wrong one. It's essentially "let's use TED to boost E-Sports" rather than "how does E-Sports talk benefit the TED audience?"
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
August 02 2011 16:45 GMT
#147
On August 03 2011 01:41 skeldark wrote:
most of the other people there try to fight hunger, work for peace , improve science and philosophy

and you think day9 should be nr.1? a guy that cast video games?
The most important thing we work on in our lives: improve in a video game.
would be a great day for esport, and a sad day for mankind...

There's a wide range of people there. Will Wright talked about his game Spore when that was in development at one point. Ultimately it just depends on if it's a topic people want to hear about.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
August 02 2011 16:45 GMT
#148
On August 03 2011 01:38 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 01:28 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I think this is a really silly idea. Competitive gaming as entertainment is a very simple remix of ideas that deserves no special attention at all.

Certainly it's more sophisticated than 4Chan which has been featured on TED, don't you agree?

I don't care about TED's standards. I have my own standards.

If some ignorant guy went to some shitty conference and did a horrible presentation about SC2 as an esport, everyone would agree that it's embarrassing and bad for the world that he did that. Of course, TED and Day9 wouldn't be that bad, but I went to an extreme just to demonstrate the concept.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
101998
Profile Joined December 2010
United States318 Posts
August 02 2011 16:46 GMT
#149
On August 03 2011 01:38 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 01:28 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I think this is a really silly idea. Competitive gaming as entertainment is a very simple remix of ideas that deserves no special attention at all.

Certainly it's more sophisticated than 4Chan which has been featured on TED, don't you agree?


Moot talked about people on the internet having a persistent online identity and the role an anonymous image board had to play in our new world. While 4chan itself is a shithole, the topic Moot spoke to is very socially relevant.
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
August 02 2011 16:48 GMT
#150
On August 03 2011 01:35 KWest wrote:
Nominate him for a game developer conference, not TED.

Yes. Having a lecture on a non-revolutionary computer game that does not have applications beyond entertainment just reeks of commercialism.
I know that whenever teamliquid makes anouncements about new sponsorships or happenings in the world of e-sports, nearly every poster mindlessly applauds or says something like "I'm going to drink Pepsi from now on". People have got to calm down and think, does talking about starcraft 2 on TED makes sense?
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 16:51:55
August 02 2011 16:51 GMT
#151
On August 03 2011 01:37 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 01:30 hypercube wrote:
On August 03 2011 01:03 Bear4188 wrote:
This seems completely inappropriate.

First off, Day9, so far as I can tell, hasn't expressed any interest in doing it. This seems pretty critical since he's the one that would need to prepare a presentation for a global audience that is entirely unlike the audience he's used to.

Even more to the point, I can't imagine how Starcraft 2 could be a relevant topic to TED. Typical ideas being discussed are new methods of locomotion, new information technologies, cures for all sorts of diseases. Starcraft 2 and esports aren't new by any stretch of the imagination and it doesn't belong at TED. TED isn't for commercial promotion of a product.

If Day9 came forward saying that he had something he wanted to talk about at TED I would support him, but until then wtf are you guys doing? This is completely wrong.


You're talking like we're putting some kind of burden on Day9. I'm sure if TED asked him he would be glad to do it, but if not he would still have the chance to refuse.

Esports might not be as important as curing cancer or stopping global warming but it's still and interesting topic with a strong connection to technology. After all streaming is probably the number one driver behind all the community organized tournaments.
There's also the topic of changing social status of gaming and competitve gaming plus a bunch of other issues that are at least somewhat connected to the "big questions" TED talks usually deal with.

So yes, I agree that there's no point on doing a TED talk on SC2 itself, but I think there's place for a TED talk on Esports, its connection to new technologies and its possible future. And Day9 is probably one of the best person to pull it off, given that he's a great public speaker (eHarmony talk, anyone?) and thought about these issues from more than one perspective.

I can be generous and agree that there is probably a good lecture to be had from esports. And I know that Day9 is capable of researching, writing and presenting (though perhaps he does not have the time) and that he has the passion to fuel the effort. But it's ridiculous to make plans based on the faith that a ripe topic and a capable person will yield a worthwhile result. If that is truly the state of things, then the result will certainly come, and we can nominate the creator and promote his or her work when it exists.

And if I'm not being generous, then I'm thinking that too much of it will be promotional bullshit.

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go poke around ted a bit and you will see that the story of esports is more than worthy of being told.
HotS
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden46 Posts
August 02 2011 16:52 GMT
#152

I really dont think SC2 isent serios enough just watch the link=)
Achally after seeing the clip i demand Day9 on TED.
prowala
Profile Joined January 2011
United States147 Posts
August 02 2011 16:52 GMT
#153
What an amazing idea, I'm psyched about this. I love TED talks, so watching Day do one would make my month.
When in doubt, nydus.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 02 2011 16:55 GMT
#154
On August 03 2011 01:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 01:38 Integra wrote:
On August 03 2011 01:28 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I think this is a really silly idea. Competitive gaming as entertainment is a very simple remix of ideas that deserves no special attention at all.

Certainly it's more sophisticated than 4Chan which has been featured on TED, don't you agree?

I don't care about TED's standards. I have my own standards.

If some ignorant guy went to some shitty conference and did a horrible presentation about SC2 as an esport, everyone would agree that it's embarrassing and bad for the world that he did that. Of course, TED and Day9 wouldn't be that bad, but I went to an extreme just to demonstrate the concept.

I think... TED has pretty high standards actually and that they are pretty good ad judging what is worth having on the show.

I don't understand your example in relation to TED or even how it motivates Day[9] not attending since you given an example that cannot happen or even relate to this event...?
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
August 02 2011 16:57 GMT
#155
Day[9] has stated multiple times that he tries to get as many people into Starcraft as he can. I'm pretty sure he'd be all for this.
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Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 16:58:18
August 02 2011 16:57 GMT
#156
I don't see anything wrong with this. TED certainly isn't restricted to humanitarian causes, and I think Day9 could give an interesting presentation about the growth of esports in both a cultural and a business context. That being said, he or someone else would have to do some sociological research to make it more relevant. Having someone talk about his history as a gamer sounds like part of a presentation, but there should be some statistics/research to go along with that (how big is the industry, sponsorship figures, rate of growth, demographics, etc.)
"See you space cowboy"
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 17:03:37
August 02 2011 16:58 GMT
#157
On August 03 2011 01:52 HotS wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAFcV7zuUDA
I really dont think SC2 isent serios enough just watch the link=)
Achally after seeing the clip i demand Day9 on TED.


That's a small tidbit of a conference.

Everyone keeps saying "well SC2 beats 4chan" or some other crap. Can someone actually explain how SC2 would benefit the TED community?
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
August 02 2011 16:59 GMT
#158
On August 03 2011 01:55 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2011 01:45 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On August 03 2011 01:38 Integra wrote:
On August 03 2011 01:28 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
I think this is a really silly idea. Competitive gaming as entertainment is a very simple remix of ideas that deserves no special attention at all.

Certainly it's more sophisticated than 4Chan which has been featured on TED, don't you agree?

I don't care about TED's standards. I have my own standards.

If some ignorant guy went to some shitty conference and did a horrible presentation about SC2 as an esport, everyone would agree that it's embarrassing and bad for the world that he did that. Of course, TED and Day9 wouldn't be that bad, but I went to an extreme just to demonstrate the concept.

I think... TED has pretty high standards actually and that they are pretty good ad judging what is worth having on the show.

I don't understand your example in relation to TED or even how it motivates Day[9] not attending since you given an example that cannot happen or even relate to this event...?

I'm sorry to hear that you don't understand my point.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
August 02 2011 17:00 GMT
#159
Stop acting like TED is only for talkers who try to change the world or something absurd like that. At the end of the day it's a media platform like any other.

@Tyler

I really don't get your point here. All it would do is promote eSports to an audience that is unfamiliar with this concept. How could this be harmful in any shape or form to...anyone?

Day9's speach would be about the growth of eSports and the eSports-community in general and not just a promotion of a videogame.
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Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
August 02 2011 17:00 GMT
#160
Why are people constantly saying that "HURR THIS DOESN'T BELONG IN TED TALKS ITS NOT A PROMINENT ISSUE HURR DURR"? Are you guys serious? Do you not know what TED talks are about?

TED talks don't just pertain to curing diseases and new technology, but also the interests of people around the world and new social phenomenons. E-sports would very easily fit into TED talks as it's a huge developing culture. Please don't try and tell me that juggling (WHICH HAS BEEN A TED TALK) or how to tie your shoe (another ted talk) as well as a million other simply interesting topics belong in TED while E-sports does not.
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