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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 01 2011 17:23 GMT
#121
Finally invite some protoss for a change jeez.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
August 01 2011 17:25 GMT
#122
Give us Puzzle and Sage seriously.
SaSe fan club manager
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
August 01 2011 17:26 GMT
#123
On August 02 2011 02:23 Logros wrote:
Finally invite some protoss for a change jeez.

I hope they invite Killer, that guy would really shine on the MLG stage, hes nuts.
IceSlipper
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia1028 Posts
August 01 2011 17:27 GMT
#124
On August 02 2011 02:17 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Best would be to invite all promising code B like DongRaeGu. Not GSL champs.

strongly disagree!
Ravnemesteren
Profile Joined May 2011
224 Posts
August 01 2011 17:27 GMT
#125
On August 02 2011 02:22 lunchforthesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:17 Ravnemesteren wrote:
I dislike putting a korean in each pool. Its like giving 4 koreans "code S" for MLG for the season. And the whole player exchange is not working at all. It seems GOM wants foreigners to come to GSL. But instead we get koreans coming over to get the code S spot. Ganzi and Rain got through the open bracket and kicked ass. I love that they participate, but the invites seem to random. Its not like they have to get top 4 code S or top 4 code A to get into pool play... its just some random korean players.

And why O why 2 more terran players. Nearly all the broadcasted games from Anaheim was with korean terrans. I have gotten my share of blueflame hellion battles for this year. So many cool matchups we missed just to show EVERY damn korean game (well not all of them, but close). QXC played extremely well (seems like the all kill was justified), but he got knocked out by Demuslim (I used to looove his play, so I would have liked to see how he beat qxc).

But inviting Bomber and MVP is a bad idea unless they invite the same caliber toss and zerg. You need MC and Nestea to get up to MVP's level (when he is playing his best). So it feels kinda stupid if they continue with inviting several top terrans and 1-2 code-B from other races. You guarantee top 4-5 terran... which is super boring imo.

Best would be to invite all promising code B like DongRaeGu. Not GSL champs.


Not invited top Koreans in order to give foreigners a chance will completely cheapen the tournament.

The reason there's so many Terrans invited is because a disproportionately large number of top Koreans are Terrans, probably as high as 75%.

Even as a massive Koreans fanboy who prefers watching Koreans to foreigners every time I do agree it's a bit of a shame that there are no LAN's for just foreigners to compete at (online tournaments aren't the same excitement) but MLG is infinitely better since Koreans started coming.

Also the willing foreigners are doing much better out of the exchange than Koreans. Guys like Thorzain, Naniwa, Fenix and Sheth all got Code A spots from it (chances are none of them would have made it through the Code B sharkpool) and from this MLG we'll get a futher four, potentially Sjow, Socke, Moonan, Select and others, all of whom would struggle to qualify for Code A normally.


Yeah, but I would have liked to see the koreans go through open bracket at least. Just giving players that will surely rip through the pools a free invite into pool is weird imo. Chae from GOM was even dissapointed that no foreigner wanted to participate in GSL (well close to non), so it seems to me that they wanted to exchange program so that they could get foreigners into GSL... not a backdoor into GSL for koreans.
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
August 01 2011 17:28 GMT
#126
Tbh it would be awesome to see MKP out in the states. But, at the same time, I get why Terrans would come out because they own man.
ponyo.848
Ravnemesteren
Profile Joined May 2011
224 Posts
August 01 2011 17:30 GMT
#127
On August 02 2011 02:27 IceSlipper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:17 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Best would be to invite all promising code B like DongRaeGu. Not GSL champs.

strongly disagree!


So you just want to see the GSL champions rape foreigners? I don't see the fun in that. Its like mixing paralympics with the olympics... Its not fun to watch.
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
August 01 2011 17:30 GMT
#128
On August 02 2011 02:30 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:27 IceSlipper wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:17 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Best would be to invite all promising code B like DongRaeGu. Not GSL champs.

strongly disagree!


So you just want to see the GSL champions rape foreigners? I don't see the fun in that. Its like mixing paralympics with the olympics... Its not fun to watch.


Code B players still do that
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
August 01 2011 17:32 GMT
#129
On August 02 2011 02:27 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:22 lunchforthesky wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:17 Ravnemesteren wrote:
I dislike putting a korean in each pool. Its like giving 4 koreans "code S" for MLG for the season. And the whole player exchange is not working at all. It seems GOM wants foreigners to come to GSL. But instead we get koreans coming over to get the code S spot. Ganzi and Rain got through the open bracket and kicked ass. I love that they participate, but the invites seem to random. Its not like they have to get top 4 code S or top 4 code A to get into pool play... its just some random korean players.

And why O why 2 more terran players. Nearly all the broadcasted games from Anaheim was with korean terrans. I have gotten my share of blueflame hellion battles for this year. So many cool matchups we missed just to show EVERY damn korean game (well not all of them, but close). QXC played extremely well (seems like the all kill was justified), but he got knocked out by Demuslim (I used to looove his play, so I would have liked to see how he beat qxc).

But inviting Bomber and MVP is a bad idea unless they invite the same caliber toss and zerg. You need MC and Nestea to get up to MVP's level (when he is playing his best). So it feels kinda stupid if they continue with inviting several top terrans and 1-2 code-B from other races. You guarantee top 4-5 terran... which is super boring imo.

Best would be to invite all promising code B like DongRaeGu. Not GSL champs.


Not invited top Koreans in order to give foreigners a chance will completely cheapen the tournament.

The reason there's so many Terrans invited is because a disproportionately large number of top Koreans are Terrans, probably as high as 75%.

Even as a massive Koreans fanboy who prefers watching Koreans to foreigners every time I do agree it's a bit of a shame that there are no LAN's for just foreigners to compete at (online tournaments aren't the same excitement) but MLG is infinitely better since Koreans started coming.

Also the willing foreigners are doing much better out of the exchange than Koreans. Guys like Thorzain, Naniwa, Fenix and Sheth all got Code A spots from it (chances are none of them would have made it through the Code B sharkpool) and from this MLG we'll get a futher four, potentially Sjow, Socke, Moonan, Select and others, all of whom would struggle to qualify for Code A normally.


Yeah, but I would have liked to see the koreans go through open bracket at least. Just giving players that will surely rip through the pools a free invite into pool is weird imo. Chae from GOM was even dissapointed that no foreigner wanted to participate in GSL (well close to non), so it seems to me that they wanted to exchange program so that they could get foreigners into GSL... not a backdoor into GSL for koreans.


Putting all the Koreans into the open brackets would be insane because:
A) The Pool Play would be a waste time of time, no one would care about the games because it would just be a practice until the Korean turns up from the Open Bracket and goes 5-0.
B) The Open Bracket would be impossible for non Korean pro to make it out of. The purpose of the Open Bracket is to allow lesser known players a chance of a lifetime. Not for 10 Korean ringers to completely dominate everyone. None of the EU teams would bother sending players anymore because there's so little chance of them making it out of the Open Bracket and therefore it's not worth their money.

Seeding the Koreans was by far the best option, anyone saying otherwise has really not thought it through.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
August 01 2011 17:34 GMT
#130
On August 02 2011 02:30 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:27 IceSlipper wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:17 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Best would be to invite all promising code B like DongRaeGu. Not GSL champs.

strongly disagree!


So you just want to see the GSL champions rape foreigners? I don't see the fun in that. Its like mixing paralympics with the olympics... Its not fun to watch.


The invites this time were three Code B players and a Code S player, plus Ganzi who is Code B and Rain who was Code S. Those players made up the top six. There's around 200+ players in Korea who could make it out of the open brackets and 50-100+ who could go 5-0 in pool play.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
August 01 2011 17:34 GMT
#131
On August 02 2011 02:30 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 02:27 IceSlipper wrote:
On August 02 2011 02:17 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Best would be to invite all promising code B like DongRaeGu. Not GSL champs.

strongly disagree!


So you just want to see the GSL champions rape foreigners? I don't see the fun in that. Its like mixing paralympics with the olympics... Its not fun to watch.


I agree. Having a few lesser known guys fighting for a Code S spot makes a lot more sense, and hopefully they will be closer to the foreign players in skill.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 01 2011 17:38 GMT
#132
Yay, MVP gonna crush more kids.
God Bless
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 01 2011 17:39 GMT
#133
We need more TvT. Invite marineking!
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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 01 2011 17:40 GMT
#134
On August 02 2011 01:10 Antoine wrote:
after these two i'd love to see Nestea and Puzzle invited, with nada and mc sent by sk hopefully

and we could call it North America GSL
Stork[gm]
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
August 01 2011 17:40 GMT
#135
Need Nestea and a strong protoss !

We already knew about Bomber and obviously MVP was going to be invited since he won
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 01 2011 17:41 GMT
#136
Hmm no MKP? I guess Prime is afraid he'd get abducted by some girls.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 17:41:44
August 01 2011 17:41 GMT
#137
Even if MMA isn't invited, SlayerS can still pay to fly him out and he'd get a pool seed.

I hope they do send a Protoss and Zerg for the other 2 invite spots though.
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
August 01 2011 17:42 GMT
#138
Everyone forgets Alicia was at Anaheim too. He got punked by ToD twice.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 01 2011 17:44 GMT
#139
Cool to know the winner(s) so much in advance.
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
August 01 2011 17:46 GMT
#140
Dream invite for the last 2 spot:
oGsTheSTC (extremely biased pick, also hes been doing extremely well in the online tournaments)
MVP_GunieaPig (hes random, and hes awesome, need more reasons?)
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