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Whenever you hit post in this thread, think long and hard. Are you showing the proper amount of respect? If that is not the case, do not hit the post button.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
July 22 2011 12:25 GMT
#881
Very well written. Thanks for your side of the story.

Not completely on topic but i think this needs to be said:
Defamation and slander should not go unpunished just because its over the internet. Nobody would ever say it's an overreaction if people gathered on the streets to publicly insult a person who hasn't done anything and carrying highly offensive banners. Police would be there arresting people in a matter of minutes.

www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
BeefEU
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands260 Posts
July 22 2011 12:26 GMT
#882
Damn, she really was in gold / diamond !! This is just total bullshit, sorry to say.. but isn't a "PROGAMING TEAM" suppposed to be filled with progamers? Not with noobs?
And than she states it's difficult to reach masters? She should be raping masters before even joining a team like slayers.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 12:30:32
July 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#883
On July 22 2011 21:26 BeefEU wrote:
Damn, she really was in gold / diamond !! This is just total bullshit, sorry to say.. but isn't a "PROGAMING TEAM" suppposed to be filled with progamers? Not with noobs?


Hello, good morning!

Progamers are gamers who play as a profession. She plays as a profession, therefore she's a progamer.

I hope I've cleared your doubts.

Have a nice day :3

"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
July 22 2011 12:28 GMT
#884
On July 22 2011 21:26 BeefEU wrote:
Damn, she really was in gold / diamond !! This is just total bullshit, sorry to say.. but isn't a "PROGAMING TEAM" suppposed to be filled with progamers? Not with noobs?
And than she states it's difficult to reach masters? She should be raping masters before even joining a team like slayers.


You so didn't get the pont at all.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
July 22 2011 12:29 GMT
#885
On July 22 2011 21:26 BeefEU wrote:
Damn, she really was in gold / diamond !! This is just total bullshit, sorry to say.. but isn't a "PROGAMING TEAM" suppposed to be filled with progamers? Not with noobs?
And than she states it's difficult to reach masters? She should be raping masters before even joining a team like slayers.


Did you read it at all? Her reasoning behind this made perfect sense.

Don't believe in yourself, believe in me, who believes in you.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 22 2011 12:33 GMT
#886
Some messed up people in this world, i am very sorry that any harm (mentally or physically) has come to you Jessica, you did not deserve this, and im glad you feel passionate enough to post the actual goings on and im very soory people can't understand buisness mindsets. BUT remember, kids rule the internet, there are tons of 12 year olds abusing anyone who doesn't agree with them, or even in some cases just because they "want" too act like a douche.

Don't respond to the negatives always look at the positives
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
July 22 2011 12:34 GMT
#887
On July 22 2011 21:29 Klamity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:26 BeefEU wrote:
Damn, she really was in gold / diamond !! This is just total bullshit, sorry to say.. but isn't a "PROGAMING TEAM" suppposed to be filled with progamers? Not with noobs?
And than she states it's difficult to reach masters? She should be raping masters before even joining a team like slayers.


Did you read it at all? Her reasoning behind this made perfect sense.



Plus the ladder was locked, she's going to be in Masters when they let out the next season. Seriously Beef, you gotta read.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 22 2011 12:34 GMT
#888
SlayerS is a powerhouse and it is a shame people dare yo second guess your recruitment management. You have showed good games and I am certain you will in the future.

Slayers Fighting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 22 2011 12:35 GMT
#889
On July 22 2011 21:34 Bobble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 21:29 Klamity wrote:
On July 22 2011 21:26 BeefEU wrote:
Damn, she really was in gold / diamond !! This is just total bullshit, sorry to say.. but isn't a "PROGAMING TEAM" suppposed to be filled with progamers? Not with noobs?
And than she states it's difficult to reach masters? She should be raping masters before even joining a team like slayers.


Did you read it at all? Her reasoning behind this made perfect sense.



Plus the ladder was locked, she's going to be in Masters when they let out the next season. Seriously Beef, you gotta read.



Maybe he is one of those idiot 12 year olds who jump to all the wrong conclusions and post extremely negatives views because it doesn't follow "his views" because he is intollerant and a big TROLL oh and cant read...
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
July 22 2011 12:36 GMT
#890
It's an honor to have Jessica post in here, and everything she said is absolutly clear.

As a little e-sport fan, I love Slayers and I'm proud of their move until now !
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Sueco
Profile Joined September 2009
Sweden283 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 12:43:46
July 22 2011 12:42 GMT
#891
We all know a substantial part of the SC2 community is composed of chauvinistic man-children. On behalf of all the real men out there, I wish Eve the best of luck. I like women, I like Starcraft 2, and combining the two can only beget further awesomeness.
Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
July 22 2011 12:42 GMT
#892
On July 22 2011 21:26 BeefEU wrote:
Damn, she really was in gold / diamond !! This is just total bullshit, sorry to say.. but isn't a "PROGAMING TEAM" suppposed to be filled with progamers? Not with noobs?


All progamers start off as noobs.

And than she states it's difficult to reach masters? She should be raping masters before even joining a team like slayers.


The rules according to you.
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 12:44:17
July 22 2011 12:43 GMT
#893
So great you came here to show us your side, people jump to conlcusions very fast when we get big news on this site! I hope you can ignore the hate and just keep on keepin on Jessica-Seonsaeng!

Who thinks being Diamond in Korea is easy...............
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
July 22 2011 12:50 GMT
#894
ty for posting here jessica. i think you are doing the right thing.

so yeah slayers fighting!
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 12:54:49
July 22 2011 12:53 GMT
#895
jessica is being honest.

It has been less than a month since Eve joined the team. She was not selected through the pro-gamer casting system, but she is someone I selected for the team to help start having female competitors in Starcraft 2, after seeing that she had sufficient potential.


there's no harm in that. but i think the drama about sexual harrassment has gone overboard. there is no limit to the amount of bigotry and offensive harrassment on the internet, once you get into the spotlight you become a bigger target.

this is always going to the case, trying to stop this is fighting a losing battle. you just need to be mentally strong and ignore the crap. you can't protect against everything, those with thick skin will go far in this hostile environment.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
July 22 2011 12:59 GMT
#896
On July 22 2011 21:26 BeefEU wrote:
Damn, she really was in gold / diamond !! This is just total bullshit, sorry to say.. but isn't a "PROGAMING TEAM" suppposed to be filled with progamers? Not with noobs?
And than she states it's difficult to reach masters? She should be raping masters before even joining a team like slayers.

Who are you to say when or not you should be allowed to join a team?
If slayers wanted to add a bicycle riding monkey, they could do that since well its their team.
Ppl acting like they are the boss with the "x shouldn't join y team because of z" is dumb.
zz_
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1022 Posts
July 22 2011 13:02 GMT
#897
Well unless I missed something at the end of the last thread, the issue was never that Jessica was retaliating against flamers/trolls, the issue was that she apparently attacked pretty much anyone who said anything negative against the acquisition of Eve, including those who had valid concerns (such as her only being recruited due to her looks, etc.)

By all means, sue the trolls, but if you start suing people for disagreeing with you, that's crossing a line you never should.
In the absence of justice, what is sovereignty but organized robbery?
Pugget
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-22 13:16:12
July 22 2011 13:05 GMT
#898
On July 22 2011 21:25 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Defamation and slander should not go unpunished just because its over the internet. Nobody would ever say it's an overreaction if people gathered on the streets to publicly insult a person who hasn't done anything and carrying highly offensive banners. Police would be there arresting people in a matter of minutes.


QFT. The "Anonymous"/4chan schtick of crying out "but this is the Internet!" to defend what amounts to harassment has, unfortunately, grown to be a philosophy for some: defamation, harassment, and slander are seen to be excusable if they happen online. I would submit that people with such views are making a classic philosophical error, letting "what is" substitute for "what should be."

It *is* easy to slander, harass, etc, online and get away with it. It's hard to get on TV, or have an article printed in a newspaper, or to write a book, but tweeting anonymously is a two step process. Combine this with a juvenile understanding of the first amendment and the belief that the first amendment protects malicious speech with intent (it doesn't), or the idea that first amendment is the only reasonable Western stance on speech, and you get people who believe in the "thick skin" doctrine: harassment happens, get over it. Some of these people don't even understand that harassment is actually crime (albeit a minor one), or if they do, do not understand why it is a crime.

I would submit that the only moral way to move through the world is to focus on "should be," with a healthy dose of reality to keep one's expectations in line. People without thick skins *should* be able to exist without constant fear of emotional distress. Not everyone should have to become ironic, pessimistic assholes to survive the online experience. And this shouldn't require heavy policing, but just self-control on the part of the participants.

It's a dream, but it's not an unreasonable one. On a one-to-one basis, we expect that type of behavior in our interactions with others. There's no reason we suddenly stop online.

TL;DR. Needless to say, I empathize with Jessica and Slayers on this. Hopefully she has luck in stopping the harassment of Eve.
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
July 22 2011 13:07 GMT
#899
Thank you for your clarification post Jessica ( also most of it was already rumored around the forum). Hope you will post here more frequently and gl to you/your team and ofc to Eve.
gideonj
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom11 Posts
July 22 2011 13:13 GMT
#900
Just to add my voice to say thank you for taking the time to write - the work you do in protecting your players and the excellent management you provide.

Please don't let the bad get you down - so much of the community is in support of you, eve and BoxeR.

We will always be in support of you :D Good luck!!
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