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it's standard procedure for breaking news to be instantely released ... it's up to EG to provide their view of the things. If they don't have anything prepared yet that's just a failure on their part as I doubt they had an agreement with TSL to not reveal the news ^^. TSL releasing it instantely has to be a total expected move.
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Considering that's how much their (at the time) star players were contracted for, that the post is 4 months old and Puma hadn't started breaking out yet, that seems unlikely.
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I think it's awesome, don't really understand why you would be mad.
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On July 21 2011 16:49 Xeris wrote:
Alex Garfield of EG talked to a lot of players at NASL, he approached Sen for example. I don't think it's particularly wrong for a conversation to take place, especially when you're at an event and just socializing with people... but it's more about actually putting a deal in place without going through the proper channels that it becomes wrong in my opinion.
For example, I have no problem talking to players (let's say DIMAGA) and saying "hey I'm wondering if you'd be interested in joining Fnatic." But knowing that he's a player on a team, that's really where the conversation needs to end. Anything further becomes a disrespect to the actual team and the whole idea of esports.
See the thing is, we don't know the extent of the conversations, unless you heard something and would like to share. That could have been what happened.
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From clides twitter. I asked him what he thought about what happened 
clidekj Hankyujong
Dirty Cash
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Coach Lee can just raise another talents. I see 3 new drafts for TSL already. Fuck those backstabbers. Sc2Con needs to do something
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team EG really living up to their name
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Kinda shady, but at the same time, he must have been offered a better salary/sponsorship or else I'd see no reason why he would leave on such short notice.
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On July 21 2011 16:50 Postman wrote:
So....EG talks to a player directly when there was nothing in place to stop them from doing so and they make a player an offer. That player then takes it, (apparently) betraying his team and coach.
Why is this an argument between EG's side and TSL's side instead of an argument between Puma's side and TSL's side?
Well the thing is normally you wouldn't talk to the player first and would talk with the teams manager AND then they would bring in the player.
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startale also offered dimaga a contract when he was in korea. He refused.
I dont think startale approached mtw's management back them. How come nobody was furious about that? Its no different, just that the deal didnt work out.
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On July 21 2011 16:52 Azurues wrote:
team EG really living up to their name
Lol....
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On July 21 2011 16:47 Slakter wrote:
People still seem to think that Puma will benefit from this. Please tell me how. Sure, he will travel a lot of foreigner events and get a lot of money FOR A SHORT TIME. He can live off being amazing and talented for a few months now but after that he´s gonna dissappear as long as EG doesnt get him some good practice, which they cant if they dont put him in a korean house.
The fact that he´s a good player and that you guys are all happy EG picked him up isnt cus he´s korean, it´s cus hes gotten korean training, something he´ll lose now...
This. This. This.
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On July 21 2011 16:49 Xeris wrote:
Alex Garfield of EG talked to a lot of players at NASL, he approached Sen for example. I don't think it's particularly wrong for a conversation to take place, especially when you're at an event and just socializing with people... but it's more about actually putting a deal in place without going through the proper channels that it becomes wrong in my opinion.
For example, I have no problem talking to players (let's say DIMAGA) and saying "hey I'm wondering if you'd be interested in joining Fnatic." But knowing that he's a player on a team, that's really where the conversation needs to end. Anything further becomes a disrespect to the actual team and the whole idea of esports.
Pretty much agree with this.
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I don't see why people are so mad at EG not contacting the TSL managers. If Puma actually wanted to stay on TSL he would have brought up the offer to the TSL management and asked them to match it or at least come close to it. If Puma didn't want to be on TSL anymore, but was merely waiting for a better offer then EG not contacting the managers makes no difference.
On July 21 2011 16:49 Xeris wrote:
For example, I have no problem talking to players (let's say DIMAGA) and saying "hey I'm wondering if you'd be interested in joining Fnatic." But knowing that he's a player on a team, that's really where the conversation needs to end. Anything further becomes a disrespect to the actual team and the whole idea of esports.
I don't agree with this. I don't see why the management of one team has to contact the management of another team when showing interest in a player off the bat. I think it is appropriate to say "hey I'm wondering if you'd be interested in joining Fnatic. We can offer you a salary of $X and have a travel budget of $Y for tournaments. Here are any other things to know." If the player has any interest in staying on his/her current team then the player will bring it up to management. The only thing I can see happening differently if brought to management first is management wanting to downsize a team or get rid of a certain player and doing that even if the player doesn't want to leave.
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oooo. Damn this thread is growing fast. Thanks for the heads up
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On July 21 2011 16:51 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 16:50 Postman wrote:
So....EG talks to a player directly when there was nothing in place to stop them from doing so and they make a player an offer. That player then takes it, (apparently) betraying his team and coach.
Why is this an argument between EG's side and TSL's side instead of an argument between Puma's side and TSL's side? THIS and nothing else! I don't really like Clide(as a player obv.) that much but he is right. It's dirty cash. PuMa betrayed those that helped him develop to what he is now.
Because Puma didn't write up a contract on behalf of EG? Because EG was the one who contacted Puma first, and obviously went through the pains of setting up terms and a contract with Puma before even telling TSL?
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On July 21 2011 16:52 Azurues wrote:
team EG really living up to their name
LMAO, you got that right!
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On July 21 2011 16:52 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 16:51 Talin wrote:Nope. It's more like two stories to each side - the real one, and the one they'll grace the public with. But oh well - roll out the EG damage control PR squad again. I don't see a side there. I see Scoots vaguely pissing on TSL statements without offering an explanation himself. Sure he's with Alex working out a nice PR side to what they did.
This is exactly right, and its going to be funny seeing how many sheep believe whatever they come up with..
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On July 21 2011 16:42 cfnz wrote:
thanks to EG we now get to see Puma at alot of foreign events, only reason you should be pissed is if you are korean or a foreigner pro, which none of you bronze heroes are. so when you see Puma at MLG/dreamhack/iem whatever, then remeber who made it possible. not TSL thats for sure.
Um.. He was at NASL because he was allowed to go to NASL.... by TSL....
That's how this whole thing started remember?
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Wtf who makes a tweet about makeing a tweet.
It's almost like making an annoucement about make an annoucement.
WHO WOULD DO SUCH A DUMB THING.
Nvm I see who it is...
zzzz
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