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ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
July 21 2011 07:55 GMT
#1381
On July 21 2011 16:53 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:51 Averious wrote:
"I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please..." iNcontrol

http://twitter.com/#!/EGiNcontroL/status/93951020803178496


Wtf who makes a tweet about makeing a tweet.

It's almost like making an annoucement about make an annoucement.


WHO WOULD DO SUCH A DUMB THING.

Nvm I see who it is...

zzzz


Haha, check the mid part of the link next time
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 21 2011 07:55 GMT
#1382
On July 21 2011 16:54 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:49 jellyjello wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:47 trikshun wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:45 jellyjello wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:37 Kamuy wrote:
Good for Puma and EG. If both sides benefit from this then there is nothing wrong. Korean culture, blah blah blah, they need to understand this is a GLOBAL game. Their culture and high moral standards are not the norm for the rest of the world and you either sign your players to legally binding contracts or expect them to get better, more lucrative offers and gladly accept them.

Anyone saying what Puma did here is wrong is delusional.

Scenario A: Puma stays with TSL, has to bank his ENTIRE sc2 tournament winnings on ONE tournament, and rarely leaves Korea for international tournaments. We'll assume hes getting paid, but obviously less than he would with EG.

Scenario B: Puma joins EG, gains a higher salary, and travels all over the world to multiple events while gaining notoriety and more opportunities for cash prizes.

Yea.... I'd like to see how many people take Scenario A.




It's very simple. Had EG contacted TSL for the said player "PuMa", it's more than likely that TSL agreed to having the player join the team EG and everyone would have been happy. But because EG went behind the player's team and his coach/manager, we now ended up with this retarded fiasco.

That makes sense.
Sirscoots:"Hey Coach Lee we want you're best player"
Coach Lee: Sure Scoots!

Now would that make any sense xD


Right.... so the other option must be to steal the player behind the team's back. That makes even more sense

If TSL and Lee feel betrayed, they shouldn't sit with their back to the door.

What can they do? Block communications with everyone outside of the team house?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 21 2011 07:55 GMT
#1383
On July 21 2011 16:53 mdma-_- wrote:
startale also offered dimaga a contract when he was in korea. He refused.
I dont think startale approached mtw's management back them. How come nobody was furious about that? Its no different, just that the deal didnt work out.



..because it could have been the same type of contract that Torch got? You know, the one that only stipulates that he needs to represent ST in Korea, but VT Gaming outside. It was basically the same type of thing SK is doing.

This is totally different.
Zulk
Profile Joined June 2010
United States20 Posts
July 21 2011 07:55 GMT
#1384
Look, he's already on EG.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PuMa
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Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1385
Well this thread blew up.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1386
On July 21 2011 16:51 Averious wrote:
"I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please..." iNcontrol

http://twitter.com/#!/EGiNcontroL/status/93951020803178496


Probably something about his girlfriend going into some stupid beauty pageant and begging for some online votes. :p

User was warned for this post
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lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1387
im sure its been said, but if you cant beat them, buy them!
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1388
On July 21 2011 16:53 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:51 Averious wrote:
"I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please..." iNcontrol

http://twitter.com/#!/EGiNcontroL/status/93951020803178496


Wtf who makes a tweet about makeing a tweet.

It's almost like making an annoucement about make an annoucement.


WHO WOULD DO SUCH A DUMB THING.

Nvm I see who it is...

zzzz


I lol'd
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1389
On July 21 2011 16:55 suprnovaynwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
EGiNcontroL Geoff Robinson
I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please...


the plott thickens...

Sean Plott thickens.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
GummyZerg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States277 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1390
Shouldn't the player be the only person involved in making a decision about themselves?

I mean, unless there is some type of contract that is involved.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1391
On July 21 2011 16:55 suprnovaynwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
EGiNcontroL Geoff Robinson
I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please...


the plott thickens...


Lol now that i think of it this is sorta like a noir themed movie.
Dear Sixsmith...
SedativeDev
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia316 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1392
On July 21 2011 16:31 TrXm wrote:
who will leave TSL next?


Clide imo.
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1393
On July 21 2011 16:56 lim1017 wrote:
im sure its been said, but if you cant beat them, buy them!


More like: If you can't make them, buy them!
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1394
Incontrol will reveal what kind of dog he will be getting. My guess.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1395
Thank you EG thank you so much for smashing yet another hole in my fantasy team

good for them I guess tho kinda weird that they cut in on PuMa when he was already on a team there should be a way to protect players. makes me feel real bad for coach Lee
The road isn't always straight.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1396
On July 21 2011 16:55 Ansalem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:52 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:51 Talin wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:49 Buruguduy wrote:
I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls "eyes"

-SirScoots' twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/SirScoots/status/93944977545109504

two sides to every story!


Nope. It's more like two stories to each side - the real one, and the one they'll grace the public with.

But oh well - roll out the EG damage control PR squad again.

I don't see a side there. I see Scoots vaguely pissing on TSL statements without offering an explanation himself. Sure he's with Alex working out a nice PR side to what they did.


Holy shit dude give it a rest. It's the middle of the night in America and presumably didn't know the TSL coach was going to make a press release. Obviously they are having a secret meeting plotting their lies right at this moment. It's not like Scoots could be unhappy (just like the TSL coach is) that this announcement was made without their side of the story and they haven't prepared a press release yet. You've obviously made up your mind already, however, so I doubt it will matter to you.

I'm also in america...and I base my statement on Scoots not offering an explanation BECAUSE HE JUST FUCKING TWEETED. Oh wait, you can do that while asleep.
Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
July 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1397
SixJax Clide make it happen Artosis! Pretty cool that foreign teams are acquiring top level Koreans now. Hopefully foreigners start to compete better against Koreans because of it.
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
July 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1398
Coming from EG, I'm not surprised.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
July 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1399
did incontrol use the word 'exactly 5 minutes '

it's now 6 mins past.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
July 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1400
On July 21 2011 16:55 Ansalem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:52 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:51 Talin wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:49 Buruguduy wrote:
I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls "eyes"

-SirScoots' twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/SirScoots/status/93944977545109504

two sides to every story!


Nope. It's more like two stories to each side - the real one, and the one they'll grace the public with.

But oh well - roll out the EG damage control PR squad again.

I don't see a side there. I see Scoots vaguely pissing on TSL statements without offering an explanation himself. Sure he's with Alex working out a nice PR side to what they did.


Holy shit dude give it a rest. It's the middle of the night in America and presumably didn't know the TSL coach was going to make a press release. Obviously they are having a secret meeting plotting their lies right at this moment. It's not like Scoots could be unhappy (just like the TSL coach is) that this announcement was made without their side of the story and they haven't prepared a press release yet. You've obviously made up your mind already, however, so I doubt it will matter to you.


So you contract a player who currently is on another team - apparently not speaking with this other team (at least looking like that from Coach Lee's statement) and then expect them to be silent about it? I mean I don't even have a too strong opinion on the actual issue as such, but not having an emergency press release ready is just asking for bad PR.
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