• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:51
CET 10:51
KST 18:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2?
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2120 users

Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 70

Forum Index > SC2 General
7189 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 68 69 70 71 72 360 Next
ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
July 21 2011 07:55 GMT
#1381
On July 21 2011 16:53 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:51 Averious wrote:
"I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please..." iNcontrol

http://twitter.com/#!/EGiNcontroL/status/93951020803178496


Wtf who makes a tweet about makeing a tweet.

It's almost like making an annoucement about make an annoucement.


WHO WOULD DO SUCH A DUMB THING.

Nvm I see who it is...

zzzz


Haha, check the mid part of the link next time
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
July 21 2011 07:55 GMT
#1382
On July 21 2011 16:54 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:49 jellyjello wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:47 trikshun wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:45 jellyjello wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:37 Kamuy wrote:
Good for Puma and EG. If both sides benefit from this then there is nothing wrong. Korean culture, blah blah blah, they need to understand this is a GLOBAL game. Their culture and high moral standards are not the norm for the rest of the world and you either sign your players to legally binding contracts or expect them to get better, more lucrative offers and gladly accept them.

Anyone saying what Puma did here is wrong is delusional.

Scenario A: Puma stays with TSL, has to bank his ENTIRE sc2 tournament winnings on ONE tournament, and rarely leaves Korea for international tournaments. We'll assume hes getting paid, but obviously less than he would with EG.

Scenario B: Puma joins EG, gains a higher salary, and travels all over the world to multiple events while gaining notoriety and more opportunities for cash prizes.

Yea.... I'd like to see how many people take Scenario A.




It's very simple. Had EG contacted TSL for the said player "PuMa", it's more than likely that TSL agreed to having the player join the team EG and everyone would have been happy. But because EG went behind the player's team and his coach/manager, we now ended up with this retarded fiasco.

That makes sense.
Sirscoots:"Hey Coach Lee we want you're best player"
Coach Lee: Sure Scoots!

Now would that make any sense xD


Right.... so the other option must be to steal the player behind the team's back. That makes even more sense

If TSL and Lee feel betrayed, they shouldn't sit with their back to the door.

What can they do? Block communications with everyone outside of the team house?
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 21 2011 07:55 GMT
#1383
On July 21 2011 16:53 mdma-_- wrote:
startale also offered dimaga a contract when he was in korea. He refused.
I dont think startale approached mtw's management back them. How come nobody was furious about that? Its no different, just that the deal didnt work out.



..because it could have been the same type of contract that Torch got? You know, the one that only stipulates that he needs to represent ST in Korea, but VT Gaming outside. It was basically the same type of thing SK is doing.

This is totally different.
Zulk
Profile Joined June 2010
United States20 Posts
July 21 2011 07:55 GMT
#1384
Look, he's already on EG.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PuMa
Chicago Blackhawks
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1385
Well this thread blew up.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1386
On July 21 2011 16:51 Averious wrote:
"I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please..." iNcontrol

http://twitter.com/#!/EGiNcontroL/status/93951020803178496


Probably something about his girlfriend going into some stupid beauty pageant and begging for some online votes. :p

User was warned for this post
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1387
im sure its been said, but if you cant beat them, buy them!
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1388
On July 21 2011 16:53 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:51 Averious wrote:
"I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please..." iNcontrol

http://twitter.com/#!/EGiNcontroL/status/93951020803178496


Wtf who makes a tweet about makeing a tweet.

It's almost like making an annoucement about make an annoucement.


WHO WOULD DO SUCH A DUMB THING.

Nvm I see who it is...

zzzz


I lol'd
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1389
On July 21 2011 16:55 suprnovaynwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
EGiNcontroL Geoff Robinson
I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please...


the plott thickens...

Sean Plott thickens.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
GummyZerg
Profile Joined November 2010
United States277 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1390
Shouldn't the player be the only person involved in making a decision about themselves?

I mean, unless there is some type of contract that is involved.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1391
On July 21 2011 16:55 suprnovaynwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
EGiNcontroL Geoff Robinson
I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please...


the plott thickens...


Lol now that i think of it this is sorta like a noir themed movie.
Dear Sixsmith...
SedativeDev
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia316 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1392
On July 21 2011 16:31 TrXm wrote:
who will leave TSL next?


Clide imo.
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1393
On July 21 2011 16:56 lim1017 wrote:
im sure its been said, but if you cant beat them, buy them!


More like: If you can't make them, buy them!
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1394
Incontrol will reveal what kind of dog he will be getting. My guess.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1395
Thank you EG thank you so much for smashing yet another hole in my fantasy team

good for them I guess tho kinda weird that they cut in on PuMa when he was already on a team there should be a way to protect players. makes me feel real bad for coach Lee
The road isn't always straight.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 21 2011 07:56 GMT
#1396
On July 21 2011 16:55 Ansalem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:52 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:51 Talin wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:49 Buruguduy wrote:
I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls "eyes"

-SirScoots' twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/SirScoots/status/93944977545109504

two sides to every story!


Nope. It's more like two stories to each side - the real one, and the one they'll grace the public with.

But oh well - roll out the EG damage control PR squad again.

I don't see a side there. I see Scoots vaguely pissing on TSL statements without offering an explanation himself. Sure he's with Alex working out a nice PR side to what they did.


Holy shit dude give it a rest. It's the middle of the night in America and presumably didn't know the TSL coach was going to make a press release. Obviously they are having a secret meeting plotting their lies right at this moment. It's not like Scoots could be unhappy (just like the TSL coach is) that this announcement was made without their side of the story and they haven't prepared a press release yet. You've obviously made up your mind already, however, so I doubt it will matter to you.

I'm also in america...and I base my statement on Scoots not offering an explanation BECAUSE HE JUST FUCKING TWEETED. Oh wait, you can do that while asleep.
Imperfect1987
Profile Joined August 2010
United States558 Posts
July 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1397
SixJax Clide make it happen Artosis! Pretty cool that foreign teams are acquiring top level Koreans now. Hopefully foreigners start to compete better against Koreans because of it.
The keyboard is mightier than the pen.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
July 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1398
Coming from EG, I'm not surprised.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
ehalf
Profile Joined September 2010
408 Posts
July 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1399
did incontrol use the word 'exactly 5 minutes '

it's now 6 mins past.
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
July 21 2011 07:57 GMT
#1400
On July 21 2011 16:55 Ansalem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:52 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:51 Talin wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:49 Buruguduy wrote:
I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls "eyes"

-SirScoots' twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/SirScoots/status/93944977545109504

two sides to every story!


Nope. It's more like two stories to each side - the real one, and the one they'll grace the public with.

But oh well - roll out the EG damage control PR squad again.

I don't see a side there. I see Scoots vaguely pissing on TSL statements without offering an explanation himself. Sure he's with Alex working out a nice PR side to what they did.


Holy shit dude give it a rest. It's the middle of the night in America and presumably didn't know the TSL coach was going to make a press release. Obviously they are having a secret meeting plotting their lies right at this moment. It's not like Scoots could be unhappy (just like the TSL coach is) that this announcement was made without their side of the story and they haven't prepared a press release yet. You've obviously made up your mind already, however, so I doubt it will matter to you.


So you contract a player who currently is on another team - apparently not speaking with this other team (at least looking like that from Coach Lee's statement) and then expect them to be silent about it? I mean I don't even have a too strong opinion on the actual issue as such, but not having an emergency press release ready is just asking for bad PR.
Prev 1 68 69 70 71 72 360 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 193
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31555
Rain 1880
GuemChi 629
firebathero 507
BeSt 302
Leta 244
Mong 233
Soma 199
Rush 100
sorry 69
[ Show more ]
Barracks 65
Sharp 52
JulyZerg 51
PianO 49
ggaemo 46
yabsab 41
Shine 31
Mind 29
NotJumperer 28
EffOrt 21
ZergMaN 20
Shinee 14
ZerO 11
SilentControl 11
Bale 9
Movie 8
League of Legends
JimRising 550
C9.Mang0416
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1668
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor0
Other Games
summit1g6686
XaKoH 279
ZerO(Twitch)1
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV73
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 36
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling93
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
7h 9m
Elazer vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
14h 9m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.