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arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:58:34
July 21 2011 07:58 GMT
#1421
On July 21 2011 16:56 GummyZerg wrote:
Shouldn't the player be the only person involved in making a decision about themselves?

I mean, unless there is some type of contract that is involved.


Exactly.. All the people condemning EG why should EG go to management at all.. .Plz explain! >.<
suprnovaynwa
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia7 Posts
July 21 2011 07:58 GMT
#1422
this is what CLIDE has had to say...

tweet
Drxz
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia115 Posts
July 21 2011 07:58 GMT
#1423
On July 21 2011 16:51 densha wrote:
Ok, so EG's response to failing results is to snipe a Korean player. Why not, I dunno, put all those side projects on the side and actually set up a rigid practice schedule? A few custom games a day and the NA ladder are not going to keep you sharp.

Conversely, why would Puma really want to join a foreign team when foreign teams operate in a way that's directly opposed to increasing skill? What I mean is, is that most foreign teams are made up of a few players separated geographically. There just isn't the access to the high level practice partners and the type of training schedule needed to keep up with the Korean teams. Many recent tournament results bear this fact out.

Maybe he's tired of the practice schedule? Maybe he realizes he can cash in internationally right now without the need for constant practice? I just don't know.

Also, I'd just like to say how unprofessionally it appears EG went about this. It also appears they don't have much confidence in their own players and felt the need to seek out a top Korean in order to start winning tournaments again. I guess that's what happens when InControl has 8,000 side projects and IdrA just hates the game. Anyway, disappointing all around.


Lets be serious here, EG is not failing, they have very good results. IdrA is doing quite well as well, I seriously don't see where all this hate comes from, not only that its not really sniping a player they asked puma and he said yes, so its HIS DECISION I just do not understand why people like you bother commenting, can you tell me which foreign team is having better results than EG in the 1 year of starcraft being released? and lets be serious here, while liquid may be a foreign team all their star players are on a Korean schedule in Korea so I would consider them Korean. Does IdrA hate the game? I don't remember him quoting that? do you have an inside source we should all know about?
Luck is oftentimes greater than skill
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
July 21 2011 07:58 GMT
#1424
I couldn't be happier for Machine. Oh splendid day
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
July 21 2011 07:58 GMT
#1425
On July 21 2011 16:57 Rannasha wrote:
"As many of you know something big has happened today. We at EG are proud to announce: Machine has received his Necron army in the mail."

From Incontrol... trolled

lolol and "DEATH TO THE ALIEN"
http://www.starcraftmecca.net - Founder
PheNOM_
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States417 Posts
July 21 2011 07:58 GMT
#1426
On July 21 2011 16:57 Shuffleus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:57 Dark.Carnival wrote:
well if i lost to infinity seven i'd be tempted to buy puma too


LOL


I think iS will actually do better at MLG than EG, so...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184006
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
July 21 2011 07:58 GMT
#1427
On July 21 2011 16:57 ehalf wrote:
did incontrol use the word 'exactly 5 minutes '

it's now 6 mins past.


This has now gotten out of control.

What do..
Snitches get stiches
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
July 21 2011 07:58 GMT
#1428
On July 21 2011 16:55 suprnovaynwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
EGiNcontroL Geoff Robinson
I have an extremely important tweet to make in exactly 5 minutes stay tuned please...


the plott thickens...


Well, iNcontrol just trolled us all... :p

EGiNcontroL Geoff Robinson
As many of you know something big has happened today. We at EG are proud to announce: Machine has received his Necron army in the mail.
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1429
Wow, Machine has a good choice in DoW races.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 08:00:13
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1430
@OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee
@hazelynutsc2 I don't think Puma will be welcomed back tbh judging by the responses, not for a while :O


Good luck getting practice partners, Puma. Ugh.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1431
iNcontrolled.
OptimusYale
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1005 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1432
LMAO @ Incontrol.....way to add a little humor
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1433
Esports is a buisness so... gratz to EG
IceSlipper
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Australia1028 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1434
lol... i lold but im not sure this is the time to be trolling! but i guess its incontrolllll we're dealing with here!
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1435
On July 21 2011 16:56 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:55 Ansalem wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:52 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:51 Talin wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:49 Buruguduy wrote:
I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls "eyes"

-SirScoots' twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/SirScoots/status/93944977545109504

two sides to every story!


Nope. It's more like two stories to each side - the real one, and the one they'll grace the public with.

But oh well - roll out the EG damage control PR squad again.

I don't see a side there. I see Scoots vaguely pissing on TSL statements without offering an explanation himself. Sure he's with Alex working out a nice PR side to what they did.


Holy shit dude give it a rest. It's the middle of the night in America and presumably didn't know the TSL coach was going to make a press release. Obviously they are having a secret meeting plotting their lies right at this moment. It's not like Scoots could be unhappy (just like the TSL coach is) that this announcement was made without their side of the story and they haven't prepared a press release yet. You've obviously made up your mind already, however, so I doubt it will matter to you.

I'm also in america...and I base my statement on Scoots not offering an explanation BECAUSE HE JUST FUCKING TWEETED. Oh wait, you can do that while asleep.


Man grow up. Scoots made that tweet presumably when he discovered this thread. It's not possible he could have been doing something else or have been woken up by someone about this.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 08:00:19
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1436
On July 21 2011 16:53 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:51 KeksX wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:50 Postman wrote:
So....EG talks to a player directly when there was nothing in place to stop them from doing so and they make a player an offer. That player then takes it, (apparently) betraying his team and coach.

Why is this an argument between EG's side and TSL's side instead of an argument between Puma's side and TSL's side?

THIS and nothing else!
I don't really like Clide(as a player obv.) that much but he is right. It's dirty cash.

PuMa betrayed those that helped him develop to what he is now.

Because Puma didn't write up a contract on behalf of EG? Because EG was the one who contacted Puma first, and obviously went through the pains of setting up terms and a contract with Puma before even telling TSL?

It is in the end PuMa leaving TSL because of the money.
There's clearly an issue on EG's side, too, I don't deny that, but I don't get how many people don't see the issue here between TSL and PuMa.

So I would like to see a clarification of PuMa as well, whether or not he talked to his coach or contacted him early enough to not just "let him down for the money". And also if he did talk to the team in an appropriate way.

AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1437
On July 21 2011 16:57 Imperfect1987 wrote:
SixJax Clide make it happen Artosis! Pretty cool that foreign teams are acquiring top level Koreans now. Hopefully foreigners start to compete better against Koreans because of it.


That actually would be fun to see SixJaxClide :D

Anyway...First Rain, then FruitDealer and Trickster, now PuMa. There must be something going on at TSL that isn't right, or else why does everyone want to leave it ?

yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1438
On July 21 2011 16:56 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:55 Ansalem wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:52 DystopiaX wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:51 Talin wrote:
On July 21 2011 16:49 Buruguduy wrote:
I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls "eyes"

-SirScoots' twitter

http://twitter.com/#!/SirScoots/status/93944977545109504

two sides to every story!


Nope. It's more like two stories to each side - the real one, and the one they'll grace the public with.

But oh well - roll out the EG damage control PR squad again.

I don't see a side there. I see Scoots vaguely pissing on TSL statements without offering an explanation himself. Sure he's with Alex working out a nice PR side to what they did.


Holy shit dude give it a rest. It's the middle of the night in America and presumably didn't know the TSL coach was going to make a press release. Obviously they are having a secret meeting plotting their lies right at this moment. It's not like Scoots could be unhappy (just like the TSL coach is) that this announcement was made without their side of the story and they haven't prepared a press release yet. You've obviously made up your mind already, however, so I doubt it will matter to you.

I'm also in america...and I base my statement on Scoots not offering an explanation BECAUSE HE JUST FUCKING TWEETED. Oh wait, you can do that while asleep.


Just because Scoots is awake doesn't mean EG is prepared to make an official statement about their biggest acquisition in the middle of the goddamn night.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Lexxes
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1439
On July 21 2011 16:55 Mobius_1 wrote:
Nice to see ESPORTS developing like traditional (non-capitalised) sports. Teams fighting over players like football teams do can only help to make more players move into SC2/progaming, although EG probably should have shown a little more courtesy to the TSL team, since talking directly to players seems to be a pretty big no-no in football.

BTW, I mean football when I say football, not handegg.

Anyhow best wishes to Puma, he amazed me at NASL and hope he does great things at EG.



hahahaha, wow, +1 karma for you




pls mod, dont give me off-topic warning, i beg u , MERCY
If you dont do it, someone else will
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 21 2011 07:59 GMT
#1440
On July 21 2011 16:57 Rannasha wrote:
"As many of you know something big has happened today. We at EG are proud to announce: Machine has received his Necron army in the mail."

From Incontrol... trolled


I shall counter troll him by saying: "Great that's one more time keeping Machine from practicing and actually becoming good!".
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
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