EPTI'm sure we'll see more of these transitions. Might look quite ridiculous for a while though with large global teams ninja'ing players to the left and right and devouring smaller teams.
Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 66
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Nifel
706 Posts
I'm sure we'll see more of these transitions. Might look quite ridiculous for a while though with large global teams ninja'ing players to the left and right and devouring smaller teams. | ||
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Buruguduy
Philippines238 Posts
-SirScoots' twitter http://twitter.com/#!/SirScoots/status/93944977545109504 two sides to every story! | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:48 InstantKarma wrote: Trickster, Fruitdealer, and now Puma have left TSL now. There must be wrong with the management of TSL if their star players are leaving the team. I think players should come first and if a team doesn't take care of their players it's best if the players can find a team which will support them better. TSL has no right to complain if their players leave to try and find better support for their careers. This guy has got it right, but you forgot Rain too! | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:46 IceSlipper wrote: Very constructive post, I can see exactly where you are coming from :/ I can see it already, EG comes out with the (completely fabricated) statement claiming that TSL is a dying team and Puma expressed interest in joining EG during the NASL finals, they then went to TSL who decided to release Puma as they believed it was in the best interests of everyone involved. So if they type out a fast response as you seem to want and in the rush get a few minor facts wrong what would you people say then? Better to let people wait and make a well thought out accurate post. It's not EG's fault that some people jump to conclusions based on nothing but air and their own bias. | ||
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Zen.
United States30 Posts
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:44 DystopiaX wrote: lol I love when people paint the other side as stupid and immature. Because of course only the people who agree with you actually enjoy Starcraft and esports. The rest of us are just here to troll you fun loving people. no, it's much more than that. You're here to ruin esports!11omg!1bbq | ||
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namste
Finland2292 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:47 DystopiaX wrote: Lol I'm pretty sure the companies sponsoring SC2 teams are bigger than the companies sponsering Western SC2 teams. Who do you think is bigger, a company like Razer that caters to a very specific (hardcore gaming) market, or the fast food companies that sponser teams like IM and are very well known for handing out prestigious contracts in Korea? Don't state your retarded assumptions as facts. Most of the Razer/Steelseries sponsorhips only give you free products and small stuff like that anyway. | ||
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holycrapitsTony
United States330 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:48 Kairos~ wrote: So the IPL Season 1 isnt big enough for the big and mighty eSports follower Talin. Or being the top-placed foreigner in Columbus. | ||
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Postman
United States269 Posts
Why is this an argument between EG's side and TSL's side instead of an argument between Puma's side and TSL's side? | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:49 Xeris wrote: Alex Garfield of EG talked to a lot of players at NASL, he approached Sen for example. I don't think it's particularly wrong for a conversation to take place, especially when you're at an event and just socializing with people... but it's more about actually putting a deal in place without going through the proper channels that it becomes wrong in my opinion. For example, I have no problem talking to players (let's say DIMAGA) and saying "hey I'm wondering if you'd be interested in joining Fnatic." But knowing that he's a player on a team, that's really where the conversation needs to end. Anything further becomes a disrespect to the actual team and the whole idea of esports. Well put. | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
Just confirms what I was thinking... PuMa has burned the bridge... | ||
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SourD
United States81 Posts
If there is no earning/salary to employee(player) there can not be an obligation for a contract. because it would be "slavery contract". makes sense if you ask me..a person should not be under a contract if there is no earning from it. btw, this labor law was introduced largely because of entertainment companies trying to lure people to train with them to become celeberities. | ||
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eggs
1011 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:49 Buruguduy wrote: I see esports journalism continues its fine tradition of no fact checking! Bravo! Bravo! /me rolls "eyes" -SirScoots' twitter http://twitter.com/#!/SirScoots/status/93944977545109504 two sides to every story! well the other side is just: "screw the rules i have money" | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
OHHHHHH shit http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=201086 - The post on TSL salaries. I'm assuming Puma was getting a salary of around 30,000? | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:47 Angelbelow wrote: My question is how do you know this forsure? "Steal" is too subjective of a word to be thrown around right now. Coach lee says he was stolen, sirscoots says we need to check out facts. who to believe? Its obvious youve put all your eggs into Coach Lee's story. I'm not convinced this situation is so simple. People just jump to any news like carrions and rip apart the subject. Calm down people, let's wait until we hear the story of both sides. | ||
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IceSlipper
Australia1028 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:49 ArturosII wrote: To be fair the last time people were mocked for "conspiracy bullshit" with regards to EG they were actually correct about their conspiracy. How is it even a conspiracy when we are basing it off the only facts we have? It's talbuk and co. who are putting on 'the theatrics and conspiracy bullshit' claiming that there are facts we dont know which put EG in the right here.. | ||
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
Oh well I guess I'll express my disappointment with my wallet, no more steelseries products for me. Hopefully GSL as an organization cracks down and bans EG from participating in their events at least for a certain amount of time. | ||
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densha
United States797 Posts
Conversely, why would Puma really want to join a foreign team when foreign teams operate in a way that's directly opposed to increasing skill? What I mean is, is that most foreign teams are made up of a few players separated geographically. There just isn't the access to the high level practice partners and the type of training schedule needed to keep up with the Korean teams. Many recent tournament results bear this fact out. Maybe he's tired of the practice schedule? Maybe he realizes he can cash in internationally right now without the need for constant practice? I just don't know. Also, I'd just like to say how unprofessionally it appears EG went about this. It also appears they don't have much confidence in their own players and felt the need to seek out a top Korean in order to start winning tournaments again. I guess that's what happens when InControl has 8,000 side projects and IdrA just hates the game. Anyway, disappointing all around. | ||
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
Ah man this isn't good :/ | ||
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