On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
Korea is not West Point Liberia... there is neither slavery nor masses of dung on beaches...
On July 23 2011 09:21 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote: [quote]
I believe he broad up an old point (This was nothing new) on a situation that may be an example on the line between journalism and expressing your opinion to a community (which is not the same thing). I think thats all it is.
So shortly, no you can tell whatever you want, since you clearly fall into the ladder option.
I think he's intelligent enough to be polite while accusing (intimidating?) Milkis. But that's just me telling things.
Ok, so if I understand you correctly. Being polite and careful while stating your/company opinion is bad, but being blunt and careless is ok?
Or is it a sign of Intelligence, therefore you are calling the original poster less intelligent? I am a bit confused.
I don't see where I'm calling Milkis less intelligent. He was intelligent enough to understand what Alex was trying to do and stop him there. But basically Alex said: "you are responsible but I'm not blaming you." Not a big deal since he didn't got any effect on Milkis future posts/tweets.
I think he also wanted to point out that by being a simple OP, you could have major implications for the parties involved based on the amount of information you include at the time of your post.
Yes, but why he would point that, when he lacked to contact the OP via PM to make a "quote"? Look at Major's SEA incident post, where all parts tried to participate. You cannot blame Milkis for the lack of information from EG. That's EG's fault, not Milkis.
Or maybe it is Coach Lee's fault for making a ranting Twitter post in a state of anger? Who knows. What I do know is that I feel like several parties involved could have gone about this in a better way.
I would stop, if fans are still arguing about this they will never stop. Theres a good chance that they hated EG from the beginning and will continue to throw eggs at them no matter what. So you should just save your time =p
Milkis translated information that was ultimately incorrect. To blame EG for not being quick enough to correct this is pretty unfair but these kids wont listen.
It is fair in the context of EG blaming Milkis for not getting a statement from them. Milkis tried. EG refused (Sir Scoots had more important things to do). Their delayed response is their fault.
Sir Scoots didn't have anything to do with the Puma deal, he is not their spokesperson. AG runs the company and speaks for EG, Scoots manages the team. Its not Scoots place to make a comment without speaking to his boss first and sending a tweet isn't an appropriate way to ask for comment on a story.
I am in the camp of people who believe when you have a special tag on a site like TL, which as a staff writer for TL i hope to earn one day soon, you have a larger obligation to fact check before you post the story. Milkis "only" translated the article is not a defense in my eyes, he broke the story. If someone else had broken the story and Milkis then came in to give a proper translation, as he has been known to do, then thats different.
If a bomb goes off in Iraq killing US citizens and local news covers it, then NBC or BBC break the story to the western world they are doing the exact same thing Milkis did, they are breaking a story to a community and have an obligation to fact check.
Imagine if the BBC reported that a US plane bombed somewhere and killed US citizens by accident, because thats what the original story on the local Iraq news was and it turned out that it was actually terrorists...... the BBC would be hit by a shit storm for not fact checking, "we were only relaying the story" would not be a valid defense.
The "facts" in the original article were wrong, EG hadn't signed Puma at the time, not sure if they even have yet and while that might not have been a problem when it was only in the Korean community its a big deal here. Only one side of the story was told, the claims made were inaccurate and reported to us as true, I haven't seen anywhere an edit to the OP saying "sorry guys, this is inaccruate"
He didn't break anything, he translated the PlayXP article, they broke the story, you should be telling PlayXP to go get the other side of the story, they didn't. BBC and NBC are news organizations, Milkis is not.
you're saying that you should blame some guy in (let's say France) for translating the BBC article,
He only became the defacto information provider once AG nagged him.
And PlayXP's information isn't incorrect. Puma left TSL for EG. His name just isn't written down on an EG contract yet, much like it wasn't written on a TSL contract. but just because it's not down on paper doesn't mean it's not true
On July 23 2011 13:29 IslandLife wrote: Well if it is that easy, then why wasn't it done a long time ago? The more employees a company in Korea has, the more money they have to spend on pension, taxes, health care as mandated by law. It's a way to cut corners and save pennies. Now that they've seen a Korean kid willing to join a foreign team so quickly after his success, they see how they potentially lost out on money and sponsorships by not offering contracts.
I doubt Coach Lee is sitting in his apartment right now missing the sound of Puma's voice. He's lamenting the fact that his failing team didn't have the resources or the wherewithal to plan for something like this. He's also probably calculating how much money he can make working at the 돼지갈비 place down the street.
I don't think there is much basis to accuse TSL of getting upset because they couldn't get a buyout. I don't think there has been an event before to show such actions, are there?
So why didn’t you sign PuMa to a contract beforehand? At first, we wanted him on a contract, and so did the other teammates. But we did not feel it was necessary at the time since everyone showed so much passion and commitment. I trusted him, but now I am regretting my decision [to put off the contract] a little bit.
Only one side of the story was told, the claims made were inaccurate and reported to us as true, I haven't seen anywhere an edit to the OP saying "sorry guys, this is inaccruate"
Kind of hard to tell two sides of the story when one side isn't talking. Also, the OP was amended with the new information.
If a bomb goes off in Iraq killing US citizens and local news covers it, then NBC or BBC break the story to the western world they are doing the exact same thing Milkis did, they are breaking a story to a community and have an obligation to fact check.
We're not talking about a bomb going off. We're talking about someone making a statement about a bomb going off. News organizations don't wait for both sides to make an official statement before releasing both statements to the public simultaneously.
Should the news wait for the guilty parties to have the opportunity to aptly prepare their statements before they're allowed to cover the Prime Minister's/President's speech vowing that the guilty will be brought to justice?
Someone holds a news conference, schedules an interview, etc. They then make a statement, they answer questions, and the news covers it. Then if the other side wishes, they schedule a similar routine or make a written statement and explain their side of the story. The news isn't held in contempt for covering someone's opinion on something when the opposing side simply didn't opine.
Of course, this all assumes Milkis is a news organization. He isn't, he's a volunteer translator. PlayXP would be your culprit here.
The coach's statement was posted to a public site and was translated by Milkis so Western audiences could hear what he had to say. EG had every opportunity to make their own written statement which Milkis solicited and would've happily added to his original post.
I would stop, if fans are still arguing about this they will never stop. Theres a good chance that they hated EG from the beginning and will continue to throw eggs at them no matter what. So you should just save your time =p
Milkis translated information that was ultimately incorrect. To blame EG for not being quick enough to correct this is pretty unfair but these kids wont listen.
kind of obvious :D
Thats pretty sad but players should be free to choose whatever they prefer. I hope Puma will enjoy his new life in the USA
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
Your ignorance is so sad to read...
Yea and although he beat some great players its not like it was the GSL (wich he cant even qualify for)
As far as im concerned puma's skill level is going to drop dramatically from moving to EG as far as i can tell he is staying in korea still, but now without a team house or a practice environment that made him such a good player in the first place.
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
Your ignorance is so sad to read...
As far as I'm concerned that's a very low standard of living.
I was congratulating Puma on actually earning a salary. Don't get so upset lol.
If I volunteered at the library but couldn't afford to spend my time there volunteering anymore because i got a real job that actually paid me money so I can actually support myself- I wouldn't feel guilty in the least. ALSO if my ex-manager at the library tried to make me feel guilty about my choice in leaving i would honestly laugh in their face. Who in the fuck is he to try shame me for wanting to be paid for my time and effort?
I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard. It is in fact very close to slavery imo.
Holding someone hostage with shame/guilt is wrong. Puma deserves the opportunity EG gave him.
TSL is a failing team, and for this they have no one to blame but themselves. It is sad their coach chose to vent his frustration publicly instead simply being a bigger man. recognizing his mistakes/ poor business choices and learning from them.
What we are seeing in TSL is the result of having so much expectations placed on them and them falling short. Anyone would be upset with this situation understandably but playing the blame game is an all-too-common and sad human reaction to failure.
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
Your ignorance is so sad to read...
As far as I'm concerned that's a very low standard of living.
I was congratulating Puma on actually earning a salary. Don't get so upset lol.
If I volunteered at the library but couldn't afford to spend my time there volunteering anymore because i got a real job that actually paid me money so I can actually support myself- I wouldn't feel guilty in the least. ALSO if my ex-manager at the library tried to make me feel guilty about my choice in leaving i would honestly laugh in their face.
I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard. It is in fact very close to slavery imo.
Holding someone hostage with shame/guilt is wrong. Puma deserves the opportunity EG gave him.
What the fuck is this?
Puma was given food and shelter, and teammates to practice with. TSL was pretty much his home, and its the same way for many other Koreans living in teamhouses. How is that even close to the "volunteering at the library" analogy.
What a disgusting post, I'm pretty sure the last thing Puma would do is laugh in his coach's face. He probably feels badly about the whole ordeal, but what's done is done.
Ok, then I can tell I'm not accusing him of making Milkis responsible of all this bad feedback, right?
I believe he broad up an old point (This was nothing new) on a situation that may be an example on the line between journalism and expressing your opinion to a community (which is not the same thing). I think thats all it is.
So shortly, no you can tell whatever you want, since you clearly fall into the ladder option.
I think he's intelligent enough to be polite while accusing (intimidating?) Milkis. But that's just me telling things.
Ok, so if I understand you correctly. Being polite and careful while stating your/company opinion is bad, but being blunt and careless is ok?
Or is it a sign of Intelligence, therefore you are calling the original poster less intelligent? I am a bit confused.
I don't see where I'm calling Milkis less intelligent. He was intelligent enough to understand what Alex was trying to do and stop him there. But basically Alex said: "you are responsible but I'm not blaming you." Not a big deal since he didn't got any effect on Milkis future posts/tweets.
I think he also wanted to point out that by being a simple OP, you could have major implications for the parties involved based on the amount of information you include at the time of your post.
Yes, but why he would point that, when he lacked to contact the OP via PM to make a "quote"? Look at Major's SEA incident post, where all parts tried to participate. You cannot blame Milkis for the lack of information from EG. That's EG's fault, not Milkis.
Or maybe it is Coach Lee's fault for making a ranting Twitter post in a state of anger? Who knows. What I do know is that I feel like several parties involved could have gone about this in a better way.
I would stop, if fans are still arguing about this they will never stop. Theres a good chance that they hated EG from the beginning and will continue to throw eggs at them no matter what. So you should just save your time =p
Milkis translated information that was ultimately incorrect. To blame EG for not being quick enough to correct this is pretty unfair but these kids wont listen.
It is fair in the context of EG blaming Milkis for not getting a statement from them. Milkis tried. EG refused (Sir Scoots had more important things to do). Their delayed response is their fault.
What information was incorrect?
To be fair neither articles said anything about him being signed, just that puma left TSL so that he could join EG. Neither articles said anything about a contract, just that EG made an offer which is absolutely true
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
Your ignorance is so sad to read...
As far as I'm concerned that's a very low standard of living.
I was congratulating Puma on actually earning a salary. Don't get so upset lol.
If I volunteered at the library but couldn't afford to spend my time there volunteering anymore because i got a real job that actually paid me money so I can actually support myself- I wouldn't feel guilty in the least. ALSO if my ex-manager at the library tried to make me feel guilty about my choice in leaving i would honestly laugh in their face.
I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard. It is in fact very close to slavery imo.
Close to slavery? Progamers live in team houses by their own accord. They could've lived "normally" and hold your usual jobs while living in the standard dorm/hostel/apartment/house, but their Starcraft II passion deems otherwise.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you haven't, for whatever reason, tried to see the situation from progamers' perspective. Then again, perhaps you take things in life for granted, as suggested by "I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard."
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
Your ignorance is so sad to read...
As far as I'm concerned that's a very low standard of living.
I was congratulating Puma on actually earning a salary. Don't get so upset lol.
If I volunteered at the library but couldn't afford to spend my time there volunteering anymore because i got a real job that actually paid me money so I can actually support myself- I wouldn't feel guilty in the least. ALSO if my ex-manager at the library tried to make me feel guilty about my choice in leaving i would honestly laugh in their face.
I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard. It is in fact very close to slavery imo.
Holding someone hostage with shame/guilt is wrong. Puma deserves the opportunity EG gave him.
What the fuck is this?
Puma was given food and shelter, and teammates to practice with. TSL was pretty much his home, and its the same way for many other Koreans living in teamhouses. How is that even close to the "volunteering at the library" analogy.
What a disgusting post, I'm pretty sure the last thing Puma would do is laugh in his coach's face. He probably feels badly about the whole ordeal, but what's done is done.
Slaves were given food and shelter..they weren't paid though........... ... ... . . . . ... .ofc slaves were forced. But it's simply a comparison.
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
Your ignorance is so sad to read...
As far as I'm concerned that's a very low standard of living.
I was congratulating Puma on actually earning a salary. Don't get so upset lol.
If I volunteered at the library but couldn't afford to spend my time there volunteering anymore because i got a real job that actually paid me money so I can actually support myself- I wouldn't feel guilty in the least. ALSO if my ex-manager at the library tried to make me feel guilty about my choice in leaving i would honestly laugh in their face.
I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard. It is in fact very close to slavery imo.
Close to slavery? Progamers live in team houses by their own accord. They could've lived "normally" and hold your usual jobs while living in the standard dorm/hostel/apartment/house, but their Starcraft II passion deems otherwise.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you haven't, for whatever reason, tried to see the situation from progamers' perspective. Then again, perhaps you take things in life for granted, as suggested by "I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard."
I take nothing in life for granted. I watch the news and see suffering all the time. I am very thankful.
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
Your ignorance is so sad to read...
As far as I'm concerned that's a very low standard of living.
I was congratulating Puma on actually earning a salary. Don't get so upset lol.
If I volunteered at the library but couldn't afford to spend my time there volunteering anymore because i got a real job that actually paid me money so I can actually support myself- I wouldn't feel guilty in the least. ALSO if my ex-manager at the library tried to make me feel guilty about my choice in leaving i would honestly laugh in their face.
I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard. It is in fact very close to slavery imo.
Holding someone hostage with shame/guilt is wrong. Puma deserves the opportunity EG gave him.
Without bringing my own opinions about the EG/Puma matter into here, I just want to say that the standard of living in Korean team houses is in no way low. Just putting that out there, because honestly, if you think that's low, then you're very clearly a privileged individual who has never really lived in a shitty environment.
There are far, far shittier standards of living in the world - the living condition in those team houses are, for instance, vastly better than my dad's living conditions in college (Taiwan) - and free room and board is fucking heavenly in the eyes of several people, myself included.
I don't understand why Milkis copped flak from EG. He was merely translating a extremely important breaking news.
For EG not getting their side of the story out, it is completely their fault. While this thread was going on, we had a couple of twits: - SirScoot's about irresponsible journalism. - Incontrol's tweet about a tweet and subsequent trolling.
EG only explained their position in Weapons of Choice. They could've easily tweeted that an official statement is coming soon, but instead chose not to do so.
On July 23 2011 14:30 Azzur wrote: I don't understand why Milkis copped flak from EG. He was merely translating a extremely important breaking news.
For EG not getting their side of the story out, it is completely their fault. While this thread was going on, we had a couple of twits: - SirScoot's about irresponsible journalism. - Incontrol's tweet about a tweet and subsequent trolling.
EG only explained their position in Weapons of Choice. They could've easily tweeted that an official statement is coming soon, but instead chose not to do so.
Its funny that they are butthurt about someone not going after them to get their side of the story Yet during the EG Team league they said publicly that it was Liquids responsibility to get their side of the story out there..
Regardless Good luck to Puma I hope his skill level doesnt take too much of a hit, And AG had no right blaming Milkis for anything...
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
Your ignorance is so sad to read...
As far as I'm concerned that's a very low standard of living.
I was congratulating Puma on actually earning a salary. Don't get so upset lol.
If I volunteered at the library but couldn't afford to spend my time there volunteering anymore because i got a real job that actually paid me money so I can actually support myself- I wouldn't feel guilty in the least. ALSO if my ex-manager at the library tried to make me feel guilty about my choice in leaving i would honestly laugh in their face.
I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard. It is in fact very close to slavery imo.
Close to slavery? Progamers live in team houses by their own accord. They could've lived "normally" and hold your usual jobs while living in the standard dorm/hostel/apartment/house, but their Starcraft II passion deems otherwise.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you haven't, for whatever reason, tried to see the situation from progamers' perspective. Then again, perhaps you take things in life for granted, as suggested by "I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard."
I take nothing in life for granted. I watch the news and see suffering all the time. I am very thankful.
Bullshit you do. You don't know a thing.
You're belittling real homeless people and slaves by saying an apartment like that is 'one step above homeless/slavery'. Wouldn't they be ashamed of you..
On July 23 2011 12:26 starcraft2rush wrote: Congratulations to Puma for not having to play his ass off for crumbs and a corner to sleep in a cramped Korean apartment . Champions deserve better than being one step above homeless/slavery.
GL in the future and congrats again on your raise! :D
WOW, this kind of ignorant bullshit is just....DO YOU UNDERSTAND KOREA IS NOT US?
4-8 People live in the same bedroom all the time, let it be team house or university residents.
Does Huk not live in bunker beds? Does MC not live with his team w/o pay? What about Nestea? Mvp? Huk? MKP? July?
They ALL live in that kind of environment, it's a team house, it's what made them great.
When every champion or multiple championship holders live like that. Puma won a league and suddenly he deserves better than everyone?
Your ignorance is so sad to read...
As far as I'm concerned that's a very low standard of living.
I was congratulating Puma on actually earning a salary. Don't get so upset lol.
If I volunteered at the library but couldn't afford to spend my time there volunteering anymore because i got a real job that actually paid me money so I can actually support myself- I wouldn't feel guilty in the least. ALSO if my ex-manager at the library tried to make me feel guilty about my choice in leaving i would honestly laugh in their face.
I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard. It is in fact very close to slavery imo.
Close to slavery? Progamers live in team houses by their own accord. They could've lived "normally" and hold your usual jobs while living in the standard dorm/hostel/apartment/house, but their Starcraft II passion deems otherwise.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you haven't, for whatever reason, tried to see the situation from progamers' perspective. Then again, perhaps you take things in life for granted, as suggested by "I'm glad I live in a country that doesn't support this kind of standard."
I take nothing in life for granted. I watch the news and see suffering all the time. I am very thankful.
Bullshit you do. You don't know a thing.
You're belittling real homeless people and slaves by saying an apartment like that is 'one step above homeless/slavery'. Wouldn't they be ashamed of you..
I doubt homeless people give a phuck what some dude on a forum thinks about their living conditions, calm down bro.
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