EPTPuma leaves TSL for EG - Page 145
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meadbert
United States681 Posts
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Yettyman
United States37 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:39 Darkong wrote: Welcome to the world of professional sports where such practises happen ALL the time. You make it sound like it is okay for it to happen since other people do it. In my opinion with the information given it is not very professional. This goes for any situation. Since TSL doesn't appear to have the corporate backing necessary to make better offers. I can understand wanting to make more in your profession but the way it is described only hurts EG's reputation which is necessary to uphold since they depend on sponsors that want favorable reactions from fans. As for Puma it is a good move because he will have more financial support. If he moves to the U.S. he may also inject a more rigorous training style into the other members improving the team as a whole. I hope that happens so they can get better and compete in team leagues. I am looking forward to an official statement from EG on the matter. Until then, with the info with I have. EG is in the wrong professionally but not strategically. | ||
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Xiaon
United States245 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:47 Enigma614 wrote: And so a lot of issues, including the contributions from the whole team, and this metropolitan haetneun Google is your friend... try it =/ that makes n osense thats not what it said anyway | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:46 DyEnasTy wrote: I think thats a BS comment by TSL coach: "foreign teams stealing korean players". They make it sound like the world is a terrible plague that "stole the life" from their player. Wish him the best and move on. And why are people pissed at EG? They just got a powerhouse player, be happy. Congrats EG, he will add alot of strength to your lineup. oh and will he be living in the team house? Picture you were the coach. Your young player goes overseas to compete in an event. He comes back and tells you he wants/thinking to leave the team for a foreign team. I imagine you would be outraged. | ||
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Gutrot
122 Posts
Now they need to buy MC so Idra and him can live in the same practice house together... I smell a sit com!! | ||
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Devist8
United States11 Posts
EGPuMa Hooray! | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
If you feel like Puma was stolen, try paying him what he's worth. Also make a team where good players actually want to play. Seriously, nobody wants to stay on your team. Love, kisses, and giggles, Fruit Dealer, Trickster, Puma, Rain and Proko. P.S. Sangho will probably leave soon too. | ||
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Legio
Sweden235 Posts
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Darkong
United Kingdom418 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:42 GreEny K wrote: Actually, if you are a contracted player in the MLG, NFL or NBA you are not allowed to do that... It is breaking rules. Its also against the rules in professional football (soccer to you guys over the pond) but it still happens, pretty much every summer there's at least one transfer scandal over a big name player being 'tapped-up' (that's the term used for it) and shit all gets done about it. My point is it happens, usually behind closed doors only to bve revealed much later, but it does. And there is no centrally established body governing SC2 e-sports (sinething like Fifa, but maybe a bit less corrupt and more effective..) to provide or enforce such rules. If Puma was under contract and a term in his contract has been breached then TSL have a case, if there was no such clause then they don't and if, as some have said, he didn't have a written and legal contract at all the TSL have no-one but themselves to blame for this situation. edit: On July 21 2011 22:48 Yettyman wrote: You make it sound like it is okay for it to happen since other people do it. I'm not saying its okay or that its good, I'm just saying that it happens and I don't understand why people seem to be losing their shit over something which is common practise. Does it suck? Yes. Should things work better than this? Yes also, but that it does is just a sad reality. | ||
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Stijx
United States804 Posts
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Harrow
United States245 Posts
If there was foul play by EG here, I mean actual legal breaches of contract, TSL would be talking about it. Instead they're just acting mad about losing another player. | ||
Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:47 Enigma614 wrote: And so a lot of issues, including the contributions from the whole team, and this metropolitan haetneun Google is your friend... try it =/ Congratulations, you are definitely the first one to try google translate and realize it's shit and what it translates makes in fact no sense at all. | ||
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:48 Numy wrote: Picture you were the coach. Your young player goes overseas to compete in an event. He comes back and tells you he wants/thinking to leave the team for a foreign team. I imagine you would be outraged. Then picture yourself offering him more money and perks than the foreign team did and him saying, "you're right, I really did want to stay on my team and play in my homeland." | ||
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Klaus1986
United States113 Posts
This is not Kumbaya-happy-lovey time for all SC players. This is a war to get your team noticed, to get paid, and your sponsors the results they demand. | ||
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Pinski
United States126 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:27 Telcontar wrote: It's like the chelsea-ashely cole affair all over again. As long as Puma was under contract with TSL, EG should've contacted them for permission to approach the player. I guess this is the problem with not having proper governing bodies in place to regulate this sort of behaviour. So what's going to happen to Puma now? I assume he'll move out of the TSL house but where does he go? I'm sure he'll still have practice partners on bnet but I would not be shocked if some of the TSL players gave him the cold shoulder. Except, it's not illegal, and only because there's an overseeing body in soccer did something happen in the Chelsea-Ashley Cole affair. There is no FIFA in SC2 to fine players/teams involved in tapping up. Either way, there'll never be enough public information to actually come an accurate conclusion about the incident. All we can do is guess. On July 21 2011 22:42 GreEny K wrote: Actually, if you are a contracted player in the MLG, NFL or NBA you are not allowed to do that... It is breaking rules. I'll assume you mean MLS(though probably MLB). But you do know in the MLS players are owned by the MLS, not the team, right? So it's not even close to the same thing. I believe in the MLB it's also the same, along with the NFL and NBA. Then again, they also have associations that overseer them, there is no association that oversees SC2 Esports, like there is in BW(KESPA). | ||
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Fluffeh
Sweden66 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:49 Legio wrote: Good for Puma, finally getting paid. I reckon this is a first of many such deals, I've no doubt that Liquid will pick up a couple of oGs guys in the near future. Liquid´MC? 1. MC just got sponsored by SK 2. Liquid and oGs already have some sort of agreement | ||
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enecateReAP
United Kingdom378 Posts
Puma said he talked about his coach about it, and OFCOURSE the coach doesn't want to loose his top player, but this is a simple un-contracted player choosing to sign up for a team...x.X; | ||
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JoeAWESOME
Sweden1080 Posts
On July 21 2011 22:48 meadbert wrote: So in the real world when someone wants to hire me they call me, not my current manager. Why should it be different in esports? If Puma had some contractual obligation then he would need to negotiate out of the contract. What is it with management acting as if they own their employees? That is not how it operates in America at all. You know professional sport teams? That's how esport should be... | ||
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
Not hating eg, but just putting it in perspective. Interesting to hear if/when both sides of the story come out not just the team losing a player. | ||
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DharmaTurtle
United States283 Posts
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