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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#241
gg EG

User was warned for this post
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ifonlyiwereawsum
Profile Joined November 2010
United States484 Posts
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#242
On July 21 2011 15:00 Milkis wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
TSL announced today that they will be releasing Puma on their team. The team revealed today that after Puma won NASL, Puma directly received interest from a foreign team, Evil Geniuses.

Manager Lee noted that "It is disappointing that we have to make a decision like this, but it's absolutely disgusting that Evil Geniuses would ignore the coaches completely and directly go talk to the player"

TIG confirms that Puma will be joining Evil Geniuses. EG made an offer to Puma after they made it to the round of 4, and after that, Puma had decided that he would accept EG's offer. Puma revealed his intentions to the TSL manager after coming back to Korea. Manager Lee decided to respect the player's wishes in the end. He noted that "It's really disturbing. It feels like the player I raised was just stolen away from me.", adding that "There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this"

EG has been revealed to pay Puma a certain amount of salary, and to provide Puma with money for foreign tournaments.

http://www.playxp.com/news/read.php?news_id=3209550
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=709880&board=&category=13438&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token=


That part bugs me a tad. Both because it really does shed a negative light on foreigner teams and also Puma knew a lot coming over to SC2 after playing BW as Flash's practice partner for however long. It's not like he really raised him up or anything, he just knew who he was and realized that he was going to be a solid player after having that much skill prior.
LiquidSnute // Zai //
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#243
On July 21 2011 15:16 proxima_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 15:14 DirtYLOu wrote:
On July 21 2011 15:13 Postman wrote:
Why is it EG's fault for recruiting him and not TSL's fault for not being able to compete with another team's offer?


Postman, because there was NO OFFER.

It was all done behind the fucking back of TSL.


too bad the PLAYER chooses what team to join, no one forced puma to join EG at gunpoint


there are these things called ethics and respect
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#244
On July 21 2011 15:17 baby elephant wrote:
If true, how long before Puma's skill deteriorates?


A month or 2 until he's competing on incontrol level.
The Notorious Winkles
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#245
Wow this is just disgusting, by both EG and puma, just going behind TSL's back like that, all it does is create more bad rep for foreigners and make EG look terrible.
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#246
Awww poor TSL !!! Just when they thought it was ok cuz Puma was still there T.T.
Dox
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1199 Posts
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#247
Congratulations to EG and PuMa! An outstanding team with an outstanding player. Best of luck to both of them, and condolences to TSL. They're really having a harsh run lately.
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heartjc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States37 Posts
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#248
If this is true I'm very discouraged by the lack of professionalism from EG management.
Senior Reporter for ESFIworld.com
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#249
I don't know why are people making such a big deal out of this. SC2 scene doesn't run with KeSPA laws guys, and PuMa is not TSL's "property" either. If TSL has problems with this, they should pay their players. You can't blame PuMa for choosing the money either.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:47:28
July 21 2011 06:18 GMT
#250
what...

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sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#251
EG is now officially the Chelsea of E-Sports (in the way they tap-up player behind their team back)
Put quote here for readability
Sanjuro
Profile Joined November 2010
Indonesia252 Posts
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#252
oh, Puma is the Mr Miyagi that djWheat talked about. Having Puma train with the EG team would be really beneficial to all the EG players.
im the Villain of the Story, im not meant to be saved
JoeAWESOME
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1080 Posts
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#253
This is not good for the Korea <---> Foreigner relasionship. EG "stealing" Puma while he was under a contract with TSL...
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holycrapitsTony
Profile Joined October 2010
United States330 Posts
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#254
EG, you devious bastards. I love you so much. Puma will improve IdrA's play so much.
NYE: when the match loading screen comes up "zvz" it's like finding out you have hiv
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#255
At this point every foreign team needs to begin dropping players in favor of Koreans. Imagine if coL dropped all 20 of their players and instead spent that money on Nestea. Boom, they would instantly be 100 times better.
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 06:21:08
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#256
On July 21 2011 15:14 Namu wrote:
The korean interview stated clearly in coach lee's words that EG did not talk to the team/coach at all, and just talked to the player while Puma was in NASL. Puma informed coach lee and told him that he wishes to join EG. So coach lee could do nothing but release him (he never had the chance to talk to EG). This is pretty sad...


I don't think it's sad at all. Good for Puma, good for EG. I personally find it highly offensive that some coach thinks he, and not the player should be approached with job offers.

Think about it, if your employer claimed that you cannot switch jobs unless a rival approaches your management about it, you'd think it was absolutely insane.

"There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this"


Yes, it's called a contract and a competitive salary.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#257
This is classic Western vs Eastern thinking colliding. On most Western teams, the players have much more autonomy than Eastern teams. It seems to me that the coaches are pissed because they felt like the player was going over their heads, when a Western team wouldn't necessarily be bothered for that reason (although others may exist in a sketchy deal like this).

I don't see anything wrong with it, good players should always be courted by everyone and it's up to them to decide where they actually want to go.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#258
On July 21 2011 15:19 JoeAWESOME wrote:
This is not good for the Korea <---> Foreigner relasionship. EG "stealing" Puma while he was under a contract with TSL...


At least TL, FXO and several others are keeping the link together.
Dear Sixsmith...
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#259
Ah this reminds me. Demuslim was just talking on his stream the other day he was hoping for some Korean practice partners. Puma will turn Demuslim into a TvT master.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
elementt
Profile Joined June 2011
Portugal36 Posts
July 21 2011 06:19 GMT
#260
Good move by EG, tho I reckon that or PuMa comes to the US or EG need to get some more players in KR and build their own team house there.
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