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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#201
After all that PR bullshit by EG.Alex on ItG insisting that they were not being underhanded, they go and pull this sort of bullshit? Man, I'm at a loss for words. I mean the whole EG vs TL nonsense with the EGMC was one thing - whatever. Then the pulling Geoff from SotG to establish a competing show - ok sponsorship nonsense, again whatever. Now they're trying to steal players away from other teams, especially given the recent SK/Fnatic player drama... that's just inexcusable. I like some of the EG players, but I'm sorry I can't simply can't support this sort of thing. It's this sort of thing that hurts e-sports more than a million Jen Schillers.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#202
Wow. This is huge news as well. A lot has been coming out lately. Congrats to EG. I do not know the details of these talks where they are claiming that they circumvented management, but if that is so, it is a bit uncouth, but the fact is that unless there is a set standard for players with rules like in a sport such as baseball or football, then players can talk to whomever they want and teams can approach players. While that may be frowned upon, it is a dog eat dog world and right now talent is highly sought after.
It is too bad for TSL, but seeing EG.Puma will be awesome.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
crackcc
Profile Joined April 2011
114 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#203
Damn EG ! Why you gotta do things the rude way ? You could have recruited the player etc etc ... but done it the proper and respectful way !

Good luck for ALL the EG team (players/manager/etc) because .. NO TEAM, korean or other, will EVER let anyone from EG ... EVER talk/mingle with them !
...... And sirscoots may get beat up by Lee
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#204
well you can't really blame Puma, he probably wasnt getting a salary in TSL. I dont think any korean SC2 progamer had one besides Tester and FD. On top of that he hasn't even made it to the GSL so who knows how long it will take for him to work up to code S. By joining EG he will be able to compete in alot more tournaments with a great chance of winning many of them and he gets a salary. Smart move by Puma, even tho I feel really bad for TSL.
Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#205
Despite the negativity this is a great steal for EG
ironpiggy
Profile Joined February 2011
United States70 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#206
so.. I was thinking... wasn't FXOz on fOu? .... so could TSL become a part of EG?
*pure speculation*. that would be sick. Then coL buys IM. >:D
"I'm like an asymptote, you'll get close to me but never touch me.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#207
On July 21 2011 15:14 TheNihilist wrote:
As far as I can tell, EG did absolutely nothing wrong here.

Tampering is forbidden in pretty much every professional sport. If the goal is to have SC2 taken seriously as an "e-sport," why should tampering not be frowned upon?
xo xo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#208
white people, realizing that they can't actually beat koreans, are instead going to buy all of them

nice nice
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#209
Hmmm, whilst there is nothing legally wrong with what has happened. I think e-sports needs to get some standards.

You should be talking to management about players on contracts not players. Eventually people are going to start legal fights over this kind of stuff, and then the whole industry is going to look like shit.

GL to puma and EG. I just hope the players association in Korea doesn't react too harshly to puma.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#210
WOOT

what?

YAYAYAY
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#211
Doesn't he have a contract or something to TSL? Whaaaaaa?
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#212
On July 21 2011 15:15 sevia wrote:
It's strange. Korean teams have all the talent, but Western teams have all the money.


Keep in mind, that Korea has Broodwar, AND sc2. We have only sc2 ;o
http://sc2ranks.com/c/9051/slayersteam/ <-- SlayerS players in Grandmaster !
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#213
Also people saying the only good player on EG is IdrA are wrong, Demuslim is hands down one of the sickest terrans outside korea, probably the best in my opinion, seriously when he streams again check it out, the guys is ridiculous and takes macro games from IdrA, love both of them and Puma will make a great addition to EG, seeing as they're suddenly very zerg heavy and Terran light with LZ switching to zerg.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#214
On July 21 2011 15:15 EchoZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 15:14 NDsOdapOp wrote:
i dont see why your all so mad.... EG went straight to Puma.. so what its his decision in the end...
i would personally be really happy if Puma went to EG. good for him TSL was falling apart anyways


Did you see SangHo in the team league?

Yeah TSL is doing amazingly well in team league, I expected them to "fall apart" as well but they seem to have only improved. Losing Puma, who unlike FD isn't mediocre (imo), is shitty for sure tho
www.justin.tv/veisc2 ~ 720p + commentary
Leo702
Profile Joined April 2011
United States53 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#215
Woah...does that mean Puma is going to be living with them at the EG house in Arizona? It doesn't look like TSL is happy, so I wonder where Puma would stay and practice if he stayed in Korea.
It's only a game. justin.tv/Leo702
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#216
Pretty much how I would expect EG to go about something like this.
Oh no
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#217
Looks guys sometimes EG needs another member to carry its team besides Idra and if they have the money they should buy the best players they can
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#218
On July 21 2011 15:15 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 15:12 DirtYLOu wrote:
On July 21 2011 15:11 Corrosive wrote:
On July 21 2011 15:09 Fanta_Rules wrote:
On July 21 2011 15:06 Corrosive wrote:
On July 21 2011 15:06 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Why the hell would he go to a team like EG and ruin his whole career? It doesn't make any sense.


How does this ruin his whole career? He will do great in foreign tournaments and EG players get a good salary afaik

His practice partners will suck ass?


Why are you so anti-EG? PumA is already good and EG has decent players.


EG is good? How come? The only guy that is getting results is Idra. Demuslim, Incotrol, Machine, Axslav are average right now at MAXIMUM.



Just because they dont do well in tournaments doesnt mean they're BAD. Demuslim and Axslav are pretty good.


If you consider axslav good I can't imagine what kind of players you consider bad.
The Notorious Winkles
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#219
On July 21 2011 15:13 epik640x wrote:
TSL's fault for not having a buy-out clause.

Barca would have Fabregas by now too.


They most likely have!

But a contract also has an option for a player to simply drop out of the contract, only having to pay a relatively smaller penalty-fee.. Go talk to a player, ask him to drop out of contract with their current team and possibly paying the penalty-fee and then sign the player is a douchebag move.. The transfer sum is much more than that penalty-fee.. Most likely only to give back sponsor hardware, etc.
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
July 21 2011 06:16 GMT
#220
On July 21 2011 15:15 EchoZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 15:14 NDsOdapOp wrote:
i dont see why your all so mad.... EG went straight to Puma.. so what its his decision in the end...
i would personally be really happy if Puma went to EG. good for him TSL was falling apart anyways


Did you see SangHo in the team league?
And what about TSL_Alive? Alive is a Boss terran. Tier 2 Korean terran for sure. Revival is also a solid zerg, a tier 2 Korean zerg as well.
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