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Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 118

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Kireak
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden358 Posts
July 21 2011 10:22 GMT
#2341
If you cant beat them, join them...
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
July 21 2011 10:22 GMT
#2342
On July 21 2011 19:19 XsebT wrote:
Pretty ugly method by EG, but such a powerful player to a foreign team is actually really fucking cool.

We should see this as a cool move from EG offering him a deal and a contract, instead of just sahring a bedroom with 4 other people and fod, and no salary.
thedz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States217 Posts
July 21 2011 10:22 GMT
#2343
On July 21 2011 19:19 Rammstorm wrote:
That's why there was "KESPA" in SC1 I assume. To stop this kind of unprofessional behavior.


You mean to stop players from joining tournaments or teams that would ostensibly offer them more compensation and/or earnings? See: Gom BW tournaments, etc.
HelloxD
Profile Joined May 2011
378 Posts
July 21 2011 10:22 GMT
#2344
There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this"

i really hate those words..
Puma wouldn't leave TSL if he was happy there.

Wish Puma Good Luck In The Future!!!
Puma fighting!!

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/s/simba_the_lion_king-5069.jpg

pAzand
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden539 Posts
July 21 2011 10:23 GMT
#2345
EG should have gone directly to TSL, negotiate a transfer fee, THEN they should have talked to Puma. Nice to see such a good player on a foreign team though, EG for GSTL!
If you can chill.. Chill!
stangstang
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada281 Posts
July 21 2011 10:23 GMT
#2346
On July 21 2011 19:19 Rammstorm wrote:
That's why there was "KESPA" in SC1 I assume. To stop this kind of unprofessional behavior.


So that korean teams could continue to treat their kids like slaves? you're right, in sc1 puma probably wouldnt get a salary or get sent to foreign events by their team.
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 10:25:10
July 21 2011 10:23 GMT
#2347
Korea needs to step up and put more money into the scene instead of a handful of players (MC, MVP, NesTea, etc) if they hope to keep their talent on their own shores. I think this is going to set a precedent and Korea will only bleed more players to Western teams. Also, what does this mean for Korean players like NesTea who wish to participate in foreign tournaments? Will his team not allow it now?

Sucks for the up and coming westerners though...

EDIT: It will take me over an hour to read the entire thread, has EG made a press release yet?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
July 21 2011 10:23 GMT
#2348
On July 21 2011 19:22 Usagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:19 XsebT wrote:
Pretty ugly method by EG, but such a powerful player to a foreign team is actually really fucking cool.

We should see this as a cool move from EG offering him a deal and a contract, instead of just sahring a bedroom with 4 other people and fod, and no salary.


TSL gives the players a salary actually.
Cackle™
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 21 2011 10:23 GMT
#2349
On July 21 2011 19:18 Jiddra wrote:
So how many are writing and reading in these korean rage threads? How will their rage affect things outside of the forum? How big is the SC2 fanbase in Korea?



I think the bigger thing to consider is how the management of the SCII pro scene will react; will the continue to send players to foreign events? Will partnerships like the oGs-Liquid' house become viable if the higher ups in Korea start to mistrust their foreign counterparts?
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
July 21 2011 10:23 GMT
#2350
I dont get what is so bad about this... its like this in almost every sport that you talk to the player first.
SourD
Profile Joined February 2011
United States81 Posts
July 21 2011 10:23 GMT
#2351
On July 21 2011 19:16 Carnagath wrote:
You know what, the "rules" are there to increase manager and team profits and decrease player profits, so I say screw them. After this, Korean teams might actually start treating their players as assets and not as slave workers, and that's only a good thing. Gogo Puma.


no. current teams in Korea provides players of their environment to practice. your point could have applied to SC1 scene. but SC2 in Korea is small at the moment and a lot of teams are funded privately by the team owner with no sponsor.
although, TSL does have quite a bit of sponsor line up, please dont generalize all team owners as being pigs using players as slaves. there is just not much of money circling around SC2 scene atm.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 10:25:14
July 21 2011 10:24 GMT
#2352
People are acting like little naive kids.
You guys should stop romanticize things. Thats just how buisness works.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
sWs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States409 Posts
July 21 2011 10:24 GMT
#2353
i can see where TSL is coming from being a little angry that puma is leaving, but honestly?

if it's what puma wants they she'd be happy for him, and that he's getting to experience the world via the EG house.. honestly.. if i was in korea i think it'd be legit to move in with a foreign team, the same way as me as an american would be thrilled to move in with a korean team.
@swsc2
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
July 21 2011 10:24 GMT
#2354
Dick move in typical EG fashion. Not surprised really.
Nastiness
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden275 Posts
July 21 2011 10:25 GMT
#2355
EG... very dissapoint.
There is no rest in the dark realm.
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 10:25:34
July 21 2011 10:25 GMT
#2356
On July 21 2011 19:22 HelloxD wrote:
There needs to be a system to stop foreign teams from stealing Korean players like this"

i really hate those words..
Puma wouldn't leave TSL if he was happy there.

Wish Puma Good Luck In The Future!!!
Puma fighting!!

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/s/simba_the_lion_king-5069.jpg



Don't want to break your spirit but that's actually Pumbaa and not Puma.

On topic: I don't know the entire story but I can imagine TSL being quite pissed. We'll see how this plays out.
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
July 21 2011 10:25 GMT
#2357
On July 21 2011 19:24 StephenS wrote:
i can see where TSL is coming from being a little angry that puma is leaving, but honestly?

if it's what puma wants they she'd be happy for him, and that he's getting to experience the world via the EG house.. honestly.. if i was in korea i think it'd be legit to move in with a foreign team, the same way as me as an american would be thrilled to move in with a korean team.


....

That's exactly what every team wants right? there star player just randomly leaving to join another team?

...
SourD
Profile Joined February 2011
United States81 Posts
July 21 2011 10:26 GMT
#2358
On July 21 2011 19:22 thedz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:19 Rammstorm wrote:
That's why there was "KESPA" in SC1 I assume. To stop this kind of unprofessional behavior.


You mean to stop players from joining tournaments or teams that would ostensibly offer them more compensation and/or earnings? See: Gom BW tournaments, etc.


yes Kespa did abuse their power. but they did setup a good infrastructure for the scene. i just hope SC2 organization can do the same.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
July 21 2011 10:26 GMT
#2359
On July 21 2011 19:23 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 19:22 Usagi wrote:
On July 21 2011 19:19 XsebT wrote:
Pretty ugly method by EG, but such a powerful player to a foreign team is actually really fucking cool.

We should see this as a cool move from EG offering him a deal and a contract, instead of just sahring a bedroom with 4 other people and fod, and no salary.


TSL gives the players a salary actually.

They do? then it sure was not enough to keep someone like Puma, nor they cared enough to keep him with a counter offer. Sad for them, good for Puma.
Jepsyn
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada364 Posts
July 21 2011 10:26 GMT
#2360
In Every other sport the player is approached first.. then if something is worked out.. the other team is informed... These guys should be able to be free agents and sign contracts just like any other "sport"
"Wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money" - IdrA
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