Slayers_Jessica overreacting to flamers? - Page 57

On July 20 2011 08:30 Wren wrote:
NO. Absolutely wrong.

There is no such thing as "abuse" of freedom of speech. That's why it's a freedom.

On July 20 2011 08:30 Wren wrote:

This isn't bullying. These aren't comments she's forced to look at, nor posted in any place she would struggle to avoid. The healthy and wise decision is to simply ignore a cesspool.

ffs, if someone is that childishly fragile about the opinions found on the internet, there's even parental controls built into browsers.


NO. Absolutely wrong.

There is no such thing as "abuse" of freedom of speech. That's why it's a freedom.

On July 20 2011 08:30 Wren wrote:

This isn't bullying. These aren't comments she's forced to look at, nor posted in any place she would struggle to avoid. The healthy and wise decision is to simply ignore a cesspool.

ffs, if someone is that childishly fragile about the opinions found on the internet, there's even parental controls built into browsers.


NO. Absolutely wrong.

There is no such thing as "abuse" of freedom of speech. That's why it's a freedom.

On July 20 2011 08:33 Lord_J wrote:


It's not debatable. It's a fact.

Whether you want to call it "abuse" or not, it's these people's behavior that will cause restrictions on speech.

On July 20 2011 08:30 Wren wrote:

This isn't bullying. These aren't comments she's forced to look at, nor posted in any place she would struggle to avoid. The healthy and wise decision is to simply ignore a cesspool.

On July 20 2011 08:33 Bonkarooni wrote:


You mean by saying what they want to say? How is that abuse? If you can't say what you want to say...you aren't actually free..

On July 20 2011 08:29 Ocedic wrote:
Yes, people who commit suicide over cyber bullying and bullying in general do have self esteem issues. But that's blaming the victim. You're acting as if bullying serves a purpose to humanity and that people committing suicide are just unfortunate incidental damage to something that otherwise betters society as a whole.

Maybe you'll feel differently if you ever have a kid who gets bullied at school. If he or she commits suicide, would you feel the same way?

On July 20 2011 08:37 TheExile19 wrote:


bullying is something that, no matter the number of awareness groups and good faith, is never going to simply fade away. similarly, people willing to snipe away at the reputations of public figures from behind the anonymous veil of a computer with internet won't, either. in the case of the latter, those public figures have to have thick skins to enter professions and fields that require exposure. I happen to think this sort of reaction showcases the sort of self-esteem that simply isn't adequate to fill the position that jessica currently occupies, and that she should consider talking to a counselor before something like this - a perfectly normal process, especially with an issue as loaded as females in professional gaming - has the chance to get to her in such a way again.

On July 20 2011 08:36 Ocedic wrote:
There's nothing inherently virtuous about freedom. If you want total freedom, you should move to Somalia where there is anarchy and no state government. If I wanted freedom to kill people, you think that would be okay? You would say no, then I would ask you where you draw the line for when my freedom to do what I want crosses the line into making life miserable for others.

On July 20 2011 08:34 Ocedic wrote:


Taking people to court under the accordance of local law is also a freedom, so looks like you don't have an argument there. Slayers Jessica is exercising her freedoms (which seems to be the most important thing to you,) so what is your issue here?

On July 20 2011 08:20 lizzard_warish wrote:

No one deserves to be punished for making fun of her no matter how cruel they are. Excluding death threats and hacking, no one deserves to be punished. I cant believe how common and flippant people are now days with restrictions on freedom of speech. "BUT HER FEELINGS WERE REALLY HURT!"

What the fuck.

On July 20 2011 08:42 TheExile19 wrote:


this is not how you argue maturely. equating the freedom to express mildly negative views of someone's public life with the freedom to end someone's life is ridiculous, end of story.

On July 20 2011 08:42 TheExile19 wrote:


this is not how you argue maturely. equating the freedom to express mildly negative views of someone's public life with the freedom to end someone's life is ridiculous, end of story.

On July 20 2011 08:26 lizzard_warish wrote:
No, not in freedom of speech. If you restrict it when someone says or does a distasteful act you have justification for the crap people pull frequently now a days. Was she "emotionally hurt?" then its illegal!

The law should not care if someone photoshopped a porno [except perhaps copyright infringment and the like].

On July 20 2011 08:45 Ocedic wrote:


Except you ignored the question: so where do you draw the line? Somewhere arbitrary and based on your own personal sense of morality? Exactly, your view of where freedom of speech (and all freedom) begins and ends is an OPINION.

There's clear legal limitations where it begins and ends in America, and I presume in Korea as well. So the point is that it doesn't matter what the fuck you think the limits SHOULD be, the law decides that.

On July 20 2011 08:41 Blasterion wrote:

Shakespeare say best, Reputation is immortal part of person. No reputation, person bestial left. Good Public image very important. And for Eve she get bad image first time on scene, Not good for esport career

On July 20 2011 08:48 Assirra wrote:

This freedom of speech bullshit excuse needs to stop.
Go say "go screw yourself" to a local cop, let's see if he is not allowed to throw you into jail.
"but i have freedom speech"
And if you come with the excuse "but its police" then you just contradicted your own statement since suddenly you don't have some much freedom anymore.