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On July 20 2011 04:27 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 04:07 Bayyne wrote:
You mother fuckers are hilarious. We apparently have people on this forum who shrug off pornographic photoshopped images of an innocent girl, verbal sexual threats and the like, as if it's not even a big deal; but when the NASL finals day 1 had poor audio and wait times, the whole fucking world apparently died.
I love the priorities people have here.
User was warned for this post I can't fault this post one bit. Bayynes dead on. Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 04:22 ApBuLLet wrote:On July 20 2011 03:48 mmdmmd wrote:On July 20 2011 03:43 ApBuLLet wrote:On July 20 2011 03:34 mmdmmd wrote:
(after reading everything)
She is the manger??!! Seriously boxer?
What kind of business decision is that? Just look at her action you can tell she has very little experience in the field. She would never gotten this job if she went through the normal procedures. For the sake of Slayers, get another person or get her a PR adviser. Yeah Jessica was in eSports before her and Boxer got together, and she has been the manager of SlayerS for a pretty long time now and there have been no problems whatsoever. This is interesting, do you know how long she was in this profession? I would like to know more. Regarding the 2nd part, clearly this and some of the previous twitts are "signs" of her problem. Here is the best I could find as far as her past involvement in eSports and her role in SlayerS now: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=236783She has had a decent amount of involvement in eSports for a long time now, although she hasn't had management experience before her involvement in SlayerS as far as I know. However my point was that you were making loosely based claims without providing any significant support for them, and that she is probably more qualified then you know. Even if she didn't have as great of qualifications as another major teams manager- She is BoxeRs girlfriend. You think they don't discuss the team or that during difficult decisions they do not ask each other? -_- imma throw a table.
Not sure what you are getting at, mind clarifying? I don't think I ever said that they don't discuss things with each other or anything remotely close to that. I was just providing a link to some information about SlayerS_Jessica's role on the team and her role in eSports before being manager of SlayerS because he asked me to, that's all. Maybe I am just missing your point so if I am just let me know  sorry.
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[QUOTE]On July 20 2011 05:05 BadgerBadger8264 wrote:
[quote]To all the people saying this is an overreaction: Would you just simply sit there if this happened to you, your daughter, or friend? Yea, kind of different when the gun is pointed at you.[/quote]
If people made rude comments about them on 4chan? I think the worst thing you could do in that situation is react, at all.
Well i guess it depends on the situation.. In the U.S this would be probably ineffective because authorities dont really give a shit, but if it is effective in korea (authorities actually do something ) then its worth the effort to react
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Defiantly over reacting. I mean how do you even approach the police on a matter such as this?
Do you just go up to them and state that someone on the internet was mean to you and made fun of you because you are in gold league on SC2? I think people need to develop thicker skin because people seem to take things way to seriously and whine an awful lot these days.
The only thing I could deem worthy of reporting to the police that happens online is death threats. That is probably about the only thing I would report to the police.
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I support this. I think the incessant trolling and childish conduct of Starcraft players is despicable. Can't lose a game without talking shit? GTFO. Can't get on a forum without shitposting and harassing people? GTFO!
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On July 20 2011 04:59 doihy wrote:
To all the people saying this is an overreaction: Would you just simply sit there if this happened to you, your daughter, or friend? Yea, kind of different when the gun is pointed at you.
Is it really OK to appeal to authorities when someone criticizes you? If there's an actual case for harassment, terroristic threats, etc., then of course that's another situation. Tweeting that Slayers_Jessica might be a bit silly trotting out this girl in front of the cameras just because she's pretty and plays SC2 is a legitimate criticism.
As for 4-chan style things, well, maybe Jessica can build a case in Korea. For me, though, the girl is 22 years old or whatever and is now in the public's eye (thanks to Jessica). That makes her fair game for parody, criticism, satire, whatever.
It just seems like to me that Jessica has not had any experience with the internet in this respect. We all know that ignoring the trolls is the right thing to do (because there will be trolls no matter what). Until it becomes real harassment or turns into a life threatening situation, there's just no point in making this big of an issue about it.
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On July 20 2011 05:17 stOpSKY wrote:
Defiantly over reacting. I mean how do you even approach the police on a matter such as this?
Do you just go up to them and state that someone on the internet was mean to you and made fun of you because you are in gold league on SC2? I think people need to develop thicker skin because people seem to take things way to seriously and whine an awful lot these days.
The only thing I could deem worthy of reporting to the police that happens online is death threats. That is probably about the only thing I would report to the police.
You obviously haven't read the OP about the part of people photo shopping SlayerSEve into pornographic images. If you were in SlayerSJessica's position I don't think you could just sit back
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On July 20 2011 05:21 densha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 04:59 doihy wrote:
To all the people saying this is an overreaction: Would you just simply sit there if this happened to you, your daughter, or friend? Yea, kind of different when the gun is pointed at you. Is it really OK to appeal to authorities when someone criticizes you? If there's an actual case for harassment, terroristic threats, etc., then of course that's another situation. Tweeting that Slayers_Jessica might be a bit silly trotting out this girl in front of the cameras just because she's pretty and plays SC2 is a legitimate criticism. As for 4-chan style things, well, maybe Jessica can build a case in Korea. For me, though, the girl is 22 years old or whatever and is now in the public's eye (thanks to Jessica). That makes her fair game parody, criticism, satire, whatever. It just seems like to me that Jessica has not had any experience with the internet in this respect. We all know that ignoring the trolls is the right thing to do (because there will be trolls no matter what). Until it becomes real harassment or turns into a life threatening situation, there's just no point in making this big of an issue about it.
What about photoshopping your daughter or friend into porn pictures? like stated in the OP
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On July 20 2011 05:21 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 05:17 stOpSKY wrote:
Defiantly over reacting. I mean how do you even approach the police on a matter such as this?
Do you just go up to them and state that someone on the internet was mean to you and made fun of you because you are in gold league on SC2? I think people need to develop thicker skin because people seem to take things way to seriously and whine an awful lot these days.
The only thing I could deem worthy of reporting to the police that happens online is death threats. That is probably about the only thing I would report to the police. You obviously haven't read the OP about the part of people photo shopping SlayerSEve into pornographic images. If you were in SlayerSJessica's position I don't think you could just sit back
And yet celebrities are shopped in the same way all the time. Eve is 22 years old and was thrust into the public spotlight by Jessica herself. Is this really something you could, or *should* be able to take someone to court for? Helllll no.
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there's a huge, huuuuuuuuge difference between american netizen and korean netizen.
koreans are literally connected through the internet, phads and trends spread like wide fire. if one person does something, everyone else starts doing it. rumors can replace truths.
you can search "tablo vs whatbecomes"
korean netizen will chew people up and spit them out if they find 1 flaw in a celeb, there's pro trolls out there that can ruin lifes.
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It's a cultural difference. In most places the police don't care about this sort of thing that much, but in Korea apparently they do and this is how they handle it. I think we (the rest of the world) just accept the garbage behavior of the internet because there isn't really any system in place to deal with it, in Korea there is and SlayerS Jessica is embracing that system. Seems fine to me.
Do I think maybe she got just a little bit carried away? Perhaps, but some of the things I've read are pretty inexcusable and shocking and as team manager she has an obligation to protect her team and I applaud her for being proactive about it.
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On July 20 2011 05:24 densha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 05:21 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:17 stOpSKY wrote:
Defiantly over reacting. I mean how do you even approach the police on a matter such as this?
Do you just go up to them and state that someone on the internet was mean to you and made fun of you because you are in gold league on SC2? I think people need to develop thicker skin because people seem to take things way to seriously and whine an awful lot these days.
The only thing I could deem worthy of reporting to the police that happens online is death threats. That is probably about the only thing I would report to the police. You obviously haven't read the OP about the part of people photo shopping SlayerSEve into pornographic images. If you were in SlayerSJessica's position I don't think you could just sit back And yet celebrities are shopped in the same way all the time. Eve is 22 years old and was thrust into the public spotlight by Jessica herself. Is this really something you could, or *should* be able to take someone to court for? Helllll no.
Tell me, What's wrong with taking them to court. If your daughter showed up as photoshoped internet porn would you sit back and do nothing?
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On July 20 2011 05:22 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 05:21 densha wrote:On July 20 2011 04:59 doihy wrote:
To all the people saying this is an overreaction: Would you just simply sit there if this happened to you, your daughter, or friend? Yea, kind of different when the gun is pointed at you. Is it really OK to appeal to authorities when someone criticizes you? If there's an actual case for harassment, terroristic threats, etc., then of course that's another situation. Tweeting that Slayers_Jessica might be a bit silly trotting out this girl in front of the cameras just because she's pretty and plays SC2 is a legitimate criticism. As for 4-chan style things, well, maybe Jessica can build a case in Korea. For me, though, the girl is 22 years old or whatever and is now in the public's eye (thanks to Jessica). That makes her fair game parody, criticism, satire, whatever. It just seems like to me that Jessica has not had any experience with the internet in this respect. We all know that ignoring the trolls is the right thing to do (because there will be trolls no matter what). Until it becomes real harassment or turns into a life threatening situation, there's just no point in making this big of an issue about it. What about photoshopping your daughter or friend into porn pictures? like stated in the OP
What if your daughter or your friend was 22 years old and was a public figure? Are you going to sue or rage against every single instance of a pornographic photoshop? I don't think any celebrities would get anything else done if they did that in real life.
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On July 20 2011 05:26 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 05:24 densha wrote:On July 20 2011 05:21 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:17 stOpSKY wrote:
Defiantly over reacting. I mean how do you even approach the police on a matter such as this?
Do you just go up to them and state that someone on the internet was mean to you and made fun of you because you are in gold league on SC2? I think people need to develop thicker skin because people seem to take things way to seriously and whine an awful lot these days.
The only thing I could deem worthy of reporting to the police that happens online is death threats. That is probably about the only thing I would report to the police. You obviously haven't read the OP about the part of people photo shopping SlayerSEve into pornographic images. If you were in SlayerSJessica's position I don't think you could just sit back And yet celebrities are shopped in the same way all the time. Eve is 22 years old and was thrust into the public spotlight by Jessica herself. Is this really something you could, or *should* be able to take someone to court for? Helllll no. Tell me, What's wrong with taking them to court. If your daughter showed up as photoshoped internet porn would you sit back and do nothing?
Why are you so fixated on my daughter? I already said, yes, IF my daughter was of legal age and in the public spotlight, that's just how the world is.
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On July 20 2011 05:28 densha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 05:26 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:24 densha wrote:On July 20 2011 05:21 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:17 stOpSKY wrote:
Defiantly over reacting. I mean how do you even approach the police on a matter such as this?
Do you just go up to them and state that someone on the internet was mean to you and made fun of you because you are in gold league on SC2? I think people need to develop thicker skin because people seem to take things way to seriously and whine an awful lot these days.
The only thing I could deem worthy of reporting to the police that happens online is death threats. That is probably about the only thing I would report to the police. You obviously haven't read the OP about the part of people photo shopping SlayerSEve into pornographic images. If you were in SlayerSJessica's position I don't think you could just sit back And yet celebrities are shopped in the same way all the time. Eve is 22 years old and was thrust into the public spotlight by Jessica herself. Is this really something you could, or *should* be able to take someone to court for? Helllll no. Tell me, What's wrong with taking them to court. If your daughter showed up as photoshoped internet porn would you sit back and do nothing? Why are you so fixated on my daughter? I already said, yes, IF my daughter was of legal age and in the public spotlight, that's just how the world is.
Because in this case jessica plays the mother figure for eve. and if you would do nothing to stand up for your own daughter. Despite what the circumstances may be I cannot look at you as a human any longer
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On July 20 2011 05:26 densha wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 05:22 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:21 densha wrote:On July 20 2011 04:59 doihy wrote:
To all the people saying this is an overreaction: Would you just simply sit there if this happened to you, your daughter, or friend? Yea, kind of different when the gun is pointed at you. Is it really OK to appeal to authorities when someone criticizes you? If there's an actual case for harassment, terroristic threats, etc., then of course that's another situation. Tweeting that Slayers_Jessica might be a bit silly trotting out this girl in front of the cameras just because she's pretty and plays SC2 is a legitimate criticism. As for 4-chan style things, well, maybe Jessica can build a case in Korea. For me, though, the girl is 22 years old or whatever and is now in the public's eye (thanks to Jessica). That makes her fair game parody, criticism, satire, whatever. It just seems like to me that Jessica has not had any experience with the internet in this respect. We all know that ignoring the trolls is the right thing to do (because there will be trolls no matter what). Until it becomes real harassment or turns into a life threatening situation, there's just no point in making this big of an issue about it. What about photoshopping your daughter or friend into porn pictures? like stated in the OP What if your daughter or your friend was 22 years old and was a public figure? Are you going to sue or rage against every single instance of a pornographic photoshop? I don't think any celebrities would get anything else done if they did that in real life.
If I am famous and I have a daughter(and she is also in the spotlight like Eve), I would definitely expect her to be photoshop by some kid and that kid is probably jacking off to her picture every night. But the less obvious but important thing is, I and a lot of people on TL understand that you have to expect that from the internet if you are famous. Jessica doesn't. And ironically, her job requires her to understand these "internet culture"
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On July 20 2011 05:30 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 05:28 densha wrote:On July 20 2011 05:26 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:24 densha wrote:On July 20 2011 05:21 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:17 stOpSKY wrote:
Defiantly over reacting. I mean how do you even approach the police on a matter such as this?
Do you just go up to them and state that someone on the internet was mean to you and made fun of you because you are in gold league on SC2? I think people need to develop thicker skin because people seem to take things way to seriously and whine an awful lot these days.
The only thing I could deem worthy of reporting to the police that happens online is death threats. That is probably about the only thing I would report to the police. You obviously haven't read the OP about the part of people photo shopping SlayerSEve into pornographic images. If you were in SlayerSJessica's position I don't think you could just sit back And yet celebrities are shopped in the same way all the time. Eve is 22 years old and was thrust into the public spotlight by Jessica herself. Is this really something you could, or *should* be able to take someone to court for? Helllll no. Tell me, What's wrong with taking them to court. If your daughter showed up as photoshoped internet porn would you sit back and do nothing? Why are you so fixated on my daughter? I already said, yes, IF my daughter was of legal age and in the public spotlight, that's just how the world is. Because in this case jessica plays the mother figure for eve. and if you would do nothing to stand up for your own daughter. Despite what the circumstances may be I cannot look at you as a human any longer
Yeah and who says you can say things like that on the Internet? Can't look at him as a human being any longer ? What kind of crap is that ?
IMO the Internet is way to complex to start to police on a nation level. It has to be community policies.
Of cours as I said earlier, death threat and serious stuff must be taken seriously.
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Its only appropriate. Slayers Eve is a 22 year old girl and gets flamed for no reason. In America the laws about Defamation are not very strict but its different in South Korea. Also she is only providing evidence to the police and DA. Its the DA and the Judges that will determine if the individual will get a punishment or not.
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On July 20 2011 05:33 Seldszar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 05:30 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:28 densha wrote:On July 20 2011 05:26 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:24 densha wrote:On July 20 2011 05:21 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 05:17 stOpSKY wrote:
Defiantly over reacting. I mean how do you even approach the police on a matter such as this?
Do you just go up to them and state that someone on the internet was mean to you and made fun of you because you are in gold league on SC2? I think people need to develop thicker skin because people seem to take things way to seriously and whine an awful lot these days.
The only thing I could deem worthy of reporting to the police that happens online is death threats. That is probably about the only thing I would report to the police. You obviously haven't read the OP about the part of people photo shopping SlayerSEve into pornographic images. If you were in SlayerSJessica's position I don't think you could just sit back And yet celebrities are shopped in the same way all the time. Eve is 22 years old and was thrust into the public spotlight by Jessica herself. Is this really something you could, or *should* be able to take someone to court for? Helllll no. Tell me, What's wrong with taking them to court. If your daughter showed up as photoshoped internet porn would you sit back and do nothing? Why are you so fixated on my daughter? I already said, yes, IF my daughter was of legal age and in the public spotlight, that's just how the world is. Because in this case jessica plays the mother figure for eve. and if you would do nothing to stand up for your own daughter. Despite what the circumstances may be I cannot look at you as a human any longer Yeah and who says you can say things like that on the Internet? Can't look at him as a human being any longer ? What kind of crap is that ? IMO the Internet is way to complex to start to police on a nation level. It has to be community policies.
Someone who won't even fight for those who are closest to him what value does he have in this world?
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On July 19 2011 16:49 weaknurse wrote:
You've just got to let haters hate, massive overreaction, this is what the trolls want.
so trolls want to get a trial and get punished ?
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LOL, that many posts she wants to take to the police (court)?
Really...?
What did she expect anyway, everyone to be happy about the new gold league SlayerS member...?!? Even if it had been a guy - erase the sexual harassment (which obviously IS fail.) you'd still have countless guys flaming because of the lack of skills (compared to OTHER slayers members not in general.) want to sue them all because of complaining about the skill of the new member? -_-
I just don't like where this is going in general-
Imagine you can actually get sued for saying somebody played really bad and/or is a really bad player in your opinion (as long as you don't call him idiot/retard/whatever) - good bye criticism?
[Don't get me wrong, death-threats, obnoxious sexist shit and what not should definitely not be tolerated, but looking at the paper stack that must've been everyone including the ones that only said "she fucking sucks"]
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