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On July 20 2011 01:31 Spritescaper wrote:
If she succeeds, internet trolls get their comeuppance. If she doesn't, successful troll is successful. I don't see the problem here. *shrug*
Overreacting? Please. Just not too long ago, people were rising up with pitchforks and torches against a random writer badmouthing e-Sports. I guess that's par for the course though; people will go to any stupid lengths to defend something they care about on the internet, but as soon as they're not emotionally involved in some way, the issue becomes "SO I HERD THE INTERNET IS SRS BUSINESS GAIZ"
Except nobody thought that the author of the article deserved to go to jail, or even pay a fine. Stop fogging the issue with this bullshit.
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I don't think she is overreacting. Photoshopping Eve's face onto a AV model is so degrading and is harassment not trolling. Also, shes just a sixteen year old, why can't people just let her practice like every other gold league so she could get better. Maybe she has good mechanics or something so don't judge a book by its cover.
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On July 20 2011 01:32 Xiphiass wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family? Defend against what?
Cyber attacks what else? If your people were photo shopping your daughter's face into pornographic images tell me. Would you sit back and do nothing?
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On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family?
I think it's more that Jessica doesn't seem to be addressing the root of this issue which is that people are finding it ridiculous that Eve got a free ride onto the team while everyone else had to work for their places, and is instead tackling the repercussions of it. Well, that and that she's pretty much using a shotgun when it comes to who she's accusing.
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On July 20 2011 01:25 kzn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:19 PHC wrote:On July 20 2011 01:13 denzelz wrote:On July 20 2011 01:11 branflakes14 wrote:On July 20 2011 01:10 Wrongspeedy wrote:On July 20 2011 01:08 denzelz wrote:On July 20 2011 00:59 PrimeTimey wrote:On July 20 2011 00:54 PHC wrote:On July 20 2011 00:44 PrimeTimey wrote:O MY GOD HE MADE FUN OF ME.. NOOOOOO  I might go kill myself She had low self esteem? What can we do about it create laws where people can't have freedom of speech on the internet? lol get real Cyber-bullying is illegal. In the U.S., all 50 states have laws that prohibit online stalking, harassment, and bullying. Why should you be allowed to harass another person on the Internet without consequence? I can't believe people are actually defending those who viciously attack others on the Internet. Don't bother with PrimeTimey, he has already told more than one person who commmited suicide to toughen up. Seriously not worth the time. Don't worry, I don't think she took offense at him saying it. The criteria of who is allowed to post on TL has seriously declined over the years. Users who made comments like these would have been instant banned a year ago. It's absolutely disgusting. The fact that I even bothered trying to ask these users to look at in another culture's perspective and to try understand it from their point of view was a complete waste of time. They are too busy subtly injecting their points on freedom of speech and their personal views on "internet" and "bullying" when it has little relevance to what the OP is about. What you have consistently failed to grasp is that once the discussion evolved into a broader discussion on whether or not the libel laws in Korea make any sense at all, "culture" stopped having anything at all to do with it. Cultural relativism is utter bullshit, and should be treated as such.
But if you don't understand the context, then everything one says loses a lot of meaning. Like, a few posts above, some guy theorizes that Koreans are "overreacting" because Asians are unspoken and don't understand the roughness of the internet. Such a statement is completely ludicrous and laughable because anyone who is literate in an East Asian language that has browsed through Asians sites will have come to the understanding that a huge chunk of Asian netizens are basically the Eastern counterpoint to the most unbearable retards on 4chan. There is no way that any Korean, particularly an older and reasonably seasoned celebrity, would be naive about how Korean netizens are in light of the various high profile suicides and internet harassments that have occured in the recent past.
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On July 20 2011 01:27 Odal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:25 RedJustice wrote:
I think some of her reaction is justified. Saying cruel and derogatory things about people/posting crude pictures, etc is not ok, especially when it's widespread.
Reacting to criticism/disappointment/dislike from people is ridiculous. Not everyone likes you irl either. You are not perfect and should learn to accept that some people will point out your flaws and disapprove of things you do.
She should take like... 3-5 of the most serious offenders to the police. I am sure the most serious problems amount to harassment and by taking some to the police that might help stop the legitimate problems they encounter. Sorry, but a 16 year old girl making comments about how good your English is isn't a legit problem. If she takes every little thing like that the police, she just makes a complete fool of herself. I hope she stops to make an intelligent choices about what she chooses to pursue legally instead of whining every time her feelings are hurt. If we can't even make fun of people on the internet, the internet will become boring as shit. It's sounds like I'm an asshole, but everyone knows this is true.
since when is posting malicious/sexist/explicit images specifically targetted at a single person and spreading them around the net considered "making fun" of someone? if some idiot posted a picture of you photoshopped into a gay sex scene, put it around your work/school, sent it to your wife/gf/parents/kids, you think that's just some guy making fun of you for shits and giggles?
dunno about you but i'd rather see witty comments or actually funny shit online than retarded 4chan image memes.
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On July 20 2011 01:33 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:32 Xiphiass wrote:On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family? Defend against what? Cyber attacks what else? If your people were photo shopping your daughter's face into pornographic images tell me. Would you sit back and do nothing?
Would you just blindly charge in and start prosecuting people?
Because if you would, you're the problem here.
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On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family?
Because you can't put all the trolls in the world in jail.
Now that 4chan and other groups of silly people see how touchy this subject is for SlayerS, expect a hundred more photoshopped Eve images to appear all over the Internet.
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On July 20 2011 01:35 kzn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:33 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 01:32 Xiphiass wrote:On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family? Defend against what? Cyber attacks what else? If your people were photo shopping your daughter's face into pornographic images tell me. Would you sit back and do nothing? Would you just blindly charge in and start prosecuting people? Because if you would, you're the problem here.
I would, because I am protecting what is important to me. Trolls are of no value in the world that I desire to live in. There for I will prosecute them until they disappear. Everyone of them 
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The police knows its business - Slayers_Jessica can report whoever she wants, but if she isn't right, then it's more likely that the police would tell her to calm down a little bit. Then again, even in such case it's understandable, if she overreacts, it means she has been under a lot of pressure.
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On July 19 2011 16:45 Maynarde wrote:
Taking matters to the police is definitely overreacting :| Haters gonna hate, gotta have thicker skin on the interwebs.
Korean "netizens" are harsh and it's just the way she wants to handle it over there.
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On July 20 2011 01:35 kzn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:33 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 01:32 Xiphiass wrote:On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family? Defend against what? Cyber attacks what else? If your people were photo shopping your daughter's face into pornographic images tell me. Would you sit back and do nothing? Would you just blindly charge in and start prosecuting people? Because if you would, you're the problem here.
I would. Problem?
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On July 20 2011 01:34 fush wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:27 Odal wrote:On July 20 2011 01:25 RedJustice wrote:
I think some of her reaction is justified. Saying cruel and derogatory things about people/posting crude pictures, etc is not ok, especially when it's widespread.
Reacting to criticism/disappointment/dislike from people is ridiculous. Not everyone likes you irl either. You are not perfect and should learn to accept that some people will point out your flaws and disapprove of things you do.
She should take like... 3-5 of the most serious offenders to the police. I am sure the most serious problems amount to harassment and by taking some to the police that might help stop the legitimate problems they encounter. Sorry, but a 16 year old girl making comments about how good your English is isn't a legit problem. If she takes every little thing like that the police, she just makes a complete fool of herself. I hope she stops to make an intelligent choices about what she chooses to pursue legally instead of whining every time her feelings are hurt. If we can't even make fun of people on the internet, the internet will become boring as shit. It's sounds like I'm an asshole, but everyone knows this is true. since when is posting malicious/sexist/explicit images specifically targetted at a single person and spreading them around the net considered "making fun" of someone? if some idiot posted a picture of you photoshopped into a gay sex scene, put it around your work/school, sent it to your wife/gf/parents/kids, you think that's just some guy making fun of you for shits and giggles? dunno about you but i'd rather see witty comments or actually funny shit online than retarded 4chan image memes.
Well just because you don't like something doesn't mean you can make it disappear. People will always be dicks on the internet, and that is fact.
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On July 20 2011 01:33 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:32 Xiphiass wrote:On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family? Defend against what? Cyber attacks what else? If your people were photo shopping your daughter's face into pornographic images tell me. Would you sit back and do nothing?
If my daughter wanted to become famous and let news outlets take and post a picture of her, yes. I would sit back and do nothing, maybe even be proud that I have such a pretty daughter. If it would start getting into a severe problem, I would start looking into action here.
There are risks that you have to take. Fame doesn't cost cheap.
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she, and every one involved is being equally childish... for shit sake, its like going to the police forbeing bullied in grade school, its too frikken minor of an incident for the police to get involved... meh... just an opinion i suppose...
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On July 20 2011 01:35 kzn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:33 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 01:32 Xiphiass wrote:On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family? Defend against what? Cyber attacks what else? If your people were photo shopping your daughter's face into pornographic images tell me. Would you sit back and do nothing? Would you just blindly charge in and start prosecuting people? Because if you would, you're the problem here.
gathering evidence from the internet which are publicly available is in no mean blindly charge though
the people that are in her list at least say something negative about this issue(Eve joining SlayerS), its up to the police to decide which person one crossed the line and which one is just a troll
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On July 20 2011 01:38 Blasterion wrote:
Trolls are of no value in the world that I desire to live in
Well, see, that's where you're wrong, unless you want to live in a world where everyone agrees with each other on everything, even when everyone is wrong.
But that's an argument for another thread.
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On July 20 2011 01:38 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:35 kzn wrote:On July 20 2011 01:33 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 01:32 Xiphiass wrote:On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family? Defend against what? Cyber attacks what else? If your people were photo shopping your daughter's face into pornographic images tell me. Would you sit back and do nothing? Would you just blindly charge in and start prosecuting people? Because if you would, you're the problem here. I would, because I am protecting what is important to me. Trolls are of no value in the world that I desire to live in. There for I will prosecute them until they disappear. Everyone of them
On July 20 2011 01:38 HydraLF wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:35 kzn wrote:On July 20 2011 01:33 Blasterion wrote:On July 20 2011 01:32 Xiphiass wrote:On July 20 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote:
Eve is like a daughter to Jessica, She's a member of the team, Why wouldn't Jessica defend her? If someone did that to your family would you not take the trolls to the police? I would protect those close to me with everything I got. Anyone who tries to hurt my friends and family will be met with as much oblivion as I can muster and I know that. So what's wrong with her trying to defend her friends and family? Defend against what? Cyber attacks what else? If your people were photo shopping your daughter's face into pornographic images tell me. Would you sit back and do nothing? Would you just blindly charge in and start prosecuting people? Because if you would, you're the problem here. I would. Problem?
And the only thing you'd accomplish is incite more trolling.
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On July 20 2011 01:39 Odal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 01:34 fush wrote:On July 20 2011 01:27 Odal wrote:On July 20 2011 01:25 RedJustice wrote:
I think some of her reaction is justified. Saying cruel and derogatory things about people/posting crude pictures, etc is not ok, especially when it's widespread.
Reacting to criticism/disappointment/dislike from people is ridiculous. Not everyone likes you irl either. You are not perfect and should learn to accept that some people will point out your flaws and disapprove of things you do.
She should take like... 3-5 of the most serious offenders to the police. I am sure the most serious problems amount to harassment and by taking some to the police that might help stop the legitimate problems they encounter. Sorry, but a 16 year old girl making comments about how good your English is isn't a legit problem. If she takes every little thing like that the police, she just makes a complete fool of herself. I hope she stops to make an intelligent choices about what she chooses to pursue legally instead of whining every time her feelings are hurt. If we can't even make fun of people on the internet, the internet will become boring as shit. It's sounds like I'm an asshole, but everyone knows this is true. since when is posting malicious/sexist/explicit images specifically targetted at a single person and spreading them around the net considered "making fun" of someone? if some idiot posted a picture of you photoshopped into a gay sex scene, put it around your work/school, sent it to your wife/gf/parents/kids, you think that's just some guy making fun of you for shits and giggles? dunno about you but i'd rather see witty comments or actually funny shit online than retarded 4chan image memes. Well just because you don't like something doesn't mean you can make it disappear. People will always be dicks on the internet, and that is fact.
This is actually a terrible argument.
There will always be criminals, that is a fact, but we still need police and prisons to discourage people. I'm actually not too torn about going after some hardcore assholes but Jessica seems to be slapping everyone into one big group and saying "Fuck them all".
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