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Slayers_Jessica overreacting to flamers? - Page 29
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Legho
Poland66 Posts
<3 Jessica and Boxer. | ||
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Legolomaniak
Australia3 Posts
2. She needs to not feed the trolls 3. The Internet is a public domain, things are going to be said that you don't like and you're going to have to deal with it People don't like change too much. Things will calm down in a week or 2 (max) I remember when they replaced a host on my favourite games review show. It was a girl and everyone was annoyed and flamed all over the forums and then after a few episodes things began to die down and now no one really has a problem with her now and she's pretty damn cool | ||
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BeeNu
615 Posts
When I wrote the first line I was originally planning on saying something a lot harsher. How can you expect to survive in SC2 if you don't have at least a moderately tough skin? Every single progamer gets trolls insulting them, but now suddenly Eve and Jessica are exempt from this and are gonna run and cry to the police because they're female? Pffffffff, right, here's an idea, if you want to play with the big boys then learn to deal with the problems like the big boys. | ||
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4rChon
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hippocritical
Australia465 Posts
On July 19 2011 22:36 BeeNu wrote: When I wrote the first line I was originally planning on saying something a lot harsher. How can you expect to survive in SC2 if you don't have at least a moderately tough skin? Every single progamer gets trolls insulting them, but now suddenly Eve and Jessica are exempt from this and are gonna run and cry to the police because they're female? Pffffffff, right, here's an idea, if you want to play with the big boys then learn to deal with the problems like the big boys. Careful, white knights love that sort of comment. They will attack the shit out of you to seem righteous and feel good about themselves. Just a heads up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. | ||
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Legho
Poland66 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On July 19 2011 22:36 BeeNu wrote: When I wrote the first line I was originally planning on saying something a lot harsher. How can you expect to survive in SC2 if you don't have at least a moderately tough skin? Every single progamer gets trolls insulting them, but now suddenly Eve and Jessica are exempt from this and are gonna run and cry to the police because they're female? Pffffffff, right, here's an idea, if you want to play with the big boys then learn to deal with the problems like the big boys. Yeah apparently you're sexist. That's your right. As some other people said, this kind of thing can be totally illegal in Korea. Can you blame Jessica for following the laws EVEN if it's overreacting? On July 19 2011 22:39 hippocritical wrote: Careful, white knights love that sort of comment. They will attack the shit out of you to seem righteous and feel good about themselves. Just a heads up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Using retarded smileys and calling people white knights won't help you a lot | ||
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Hollis
United States505 Posts
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On July 19 2011 22:36 BeeNu wrote: When I wrote the first line I was originally planning on saying something a lot harsher. How can you expect to survive in SC2 if you don't have at least a moderately tough skin? Every single progamer gets trolls insulting them, but now suddenly Eve and Jessica are exempt from this and are gonna run and cry to the police because they're female? Pffffffff, right, here's an idea, if you want to play with the big boys then learn to deal with the problems like the big boys. Maybe that's true, but that doesn't mean it should be true. I don't like the defeatist attitude of 'oh people are trolls on the internet and always will be', because guess what, this is our community, and each person is a part of that community. Don't you want it to be the best community that it can be? That's why the mods work so hard. In real life things like this would not be tolerated. Sexual harassment is on a whole different level than Incontrol or Idra calling someone out (even though that's still dumb). Careful, white knights love that sort of comment. They will attack the shit out of you to seem righteous and feel good about themselves. Just a heads up ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. bawww people might think you're wrong bawwwwwww | ||
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BeeNu
615 Posts
On July 19 2011 22:39 Legho wrote: BeeNu - the huge difference that you forgot to mention is that those insulted progamers you pointed out were never attacked because of their gender. It is disgusting and should not be tolerated. No, you're wrong, it's no different. She doesn't get attacked "because" of her gender, trolls just use her gender because it's a thing to use. If male gamers were the minority then trolls would pick on male gamers for being male. Trolls just pick up on any little thing they possibly can whether you're male or female, it's the same in the end. They'll pick on you if you're skinny, if you're fat, if you're asian, white, whatever they can possibly use. The point I'm trying to make is that Jessica seems to act like she should be given special treatment about this and nobody can say anything bad about her when in reality the world doesn't work that way and I can't take her seriously at all when her view of the world is so very very narrow and ignorant. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
On July 19 2011 22:09 Spitfire wrote: No one likes seeing freedom of speech infringed on, but on the other hand its hard not to enjoy seeing trolls stripped of their supposed shield of invulnerability that is the internet. There are also cultural differences here that make it hard for us to judge. Free speech is free political speech. Even USA has laws against speech. Defamation, liable, sexual harassment, religious harassment, fraud by inducement, fraud by ommission, etc. (I learned last two in my business law class) EU has plenty of laws as well. It's not a carte blanche to say anything you want. Don't pretend otherwise. | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On July 19 2011 22:43 BeeNu wrote: No, you're wrong, it's no different. She doesn't get attacked "because" of her gender, trolls just use her gender because it's a thing to use. If male gamers were the minority then trolls would pick on male gamers for being male. Trolls just pick up on any little thing they possibly can whether you're male or female, it's the same in the end. They'll pick on you if you're skinny, if you're fat, if you're asian, white, whatever they can possibly use. The point I'm trying to make is that Jessica seems to act like she should be given special treatment about this and nobody can say anything bad about her when in reality the world doesn't work that way and I can't take her seriously at all when her view of the world is so very very narrow and ignorant. It's not because you can't take her seriously that other people will not take her seriously. I certainly can still take her seriously | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
On July 19 2011 20:22 Linwelin wrote: Pretty sure she is the first female sc2 programmer. At least the first female (sc2) programmer in Korea. Ignoring the hate doesn't make it disappear So not only can females not be progamers, but they're not programmers either?! joking, but seriously, people need to stop confusing those two words | ||
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On July 19 2011 22:46 Ruscour wrote: So not only can females not be progamers, but they're not programmers either?! joking, but seriously, people need to stop confusing those two words Yeayea blame new keyboard  | ||
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Semtext
Germany287 Posts
What a shame if that could ever happen on our beloved internet. | ||
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BeeNu
615 Posts
Yeah apparently you're sexist. That's your right. As some other people said, this kind of thing can be totally illegal in Korea. Can you blame Jessica for following the laws EVEN if it's overreacting? Don't ask me that. I absolutely hate people who hide behind laws that I view as wrong and unjust, this law would be an example of that because I believe in free speech. Sure they may just be trolling but it should be their right to say what they want even if what they say is stupid. Maybe that's true, but that doesn't mean it should be true. I don't like the defeatist attitude of 'oh people are trolls on the internet and always will be', because guess what, this is our community, and each person is a part of that community. Don't you want it to be the best community that it can be? That's why the mods work so hard. In real life things like this would not be tolerated. Sexual harassment is on a whole different level than Incontrol or Idra calling someone out (even though that's still dumb). How is it different in real life? I can walk up to someone and say "you're gay" and as long as it's not like, in a corporate work place there are not going to be any repercussions unless the person I say it to wants to attack me. Like I said before, I find it sickening to want to hide behind the law to keep people silent for saying things you personally don't want them to say, regardless of whether what they say is ignorant or wrong. | ||
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SpiDaH
France198 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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