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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
January 16 2012 00:33 GMT
#1241
On January 16 2012 09:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 09:19 AeroEffect wrote:
On October 13 2011 10:29 hunger wrote:
On October 12 2011 04:29 Tenks wrote:
On October 12 2011 02:16 cydial wrote:
Destiny, someday he will win something big.

Slayers_Dragon, he hasn't won anything yet but he is one of the best terrans in korea.



How can you honestly make a claim like that? Just how big is this pool of the "best Terrans?" Dragon may be entertaining to watch him faceroll Gold scrubs on the NA ladder with 90 rax builds but he is far from one of the "best Terrans" in Korea. He hasn't even managed to enter Code A yet and doesn't even live at SlayerS.


But dude, his stream is awesome and he does really funny stuff. I can only think of LITERALLY two or three DOZEN Terrans that are better than him in Korea right now.

Dragon really isnt that bad. If he can get on a team that will practice with him consistently, im sure he could atleast get up to terrans around the level of Ryung and Ganzi.

On another note, I think my darkhorse is Clide. He is going to win 230897208713 GSL championships before the year is over.

Ryung and Ganzi are top terrans...>_>


Dragon is entertaining as all hell, but that doesn't make him good. He's easily outclassed by top tier terrans in Korea right now. There are more than 2 dozen korean terrans better than him, and even foreign terrans that are better than Dragon. No offense to him, I watch his stream all the time.


Something is wrong with your definition of 'top' if you don't think GanZi is easily one of the best terrans in the world. I think that AnnYeong, TheSTC, Polt ><, and Titan are all underrated players that have been performing quite well lately.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 01:00:54
January 16 2012 00:34 GMT
#1242
CombatEx. And I'm not trolling.
Also Tslpolt. That guy is so unbelievable good. But he is way too boaster. For example when he talks about terran being op. All races are op if they are on the right hands.
FlyingDike
Profile Joined December 2011
United States221 Posts
January 16 2012 00:35 GMT
#1243
I can tell you which players are over rated: every foreigner.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
January 16 2012 00:37 GMT
#1244
On January 16 2012 09:35 FlyingDike wrote:
I can tell you which players are over rated: every foreigner.

Exactly. Since TL's not some korean site, every non-korean gets overrated.
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Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
January 16 2012 00:37 GMT
#1245
On January 16 2012 09:35 FlyingDike wrote:
I can tell you which players are over rated: every foreigner.


harsh.

I'd just like to say: a hidden gem of a player is not = underrated. He is, really, unrated.

Thus, someone underrated would be in the public eye, doing well but deserves more love
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 00:38:42
January 16 2012 00:37 GMT
#1246
On January 16 2012 09:19 AeroEffect wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 10:29 hunger wrote:
On October 12 2011 04:29 Tenks wrote:
On October 12 2011 02:16 cydial wrote:
Destiny, someday he will win something big.

Slayers_Dragon, he hasn't won anything yet but he is one of the best terrans in korea.



How can you honestly make a claim like that? Just how big is this pool of the "best Terrans?" Dragon may be entertaining to watch him faceroll Gold scrubs on the NA ladder with 90 rax builds but he is far from one of the "best Terrans" in Korea. He hasn't even managed to enter Code A yet and doesn't even live at SlayerS.


But dude, his stream is awesome and he does really funny stuff. I can only think of LITERALLY two or three DOZEN Terrans that are better than him in Korea right now.

Dragon really isnt that bad. If he can get on a team that will practice with him consistently, im sure he could atleast get up to terrans around the level of Ryung and Ganzi.

On another note, I think my darkhorse is Clide. He is going to win 230897208713 GSL championships before the year is over.


lol Ganzi is like a tier above Ryung at this point in time, and Ryung is like two tiers above Dragon.

On January 16 2012 09:33 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 09:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
On January 16 2012 09:19 AeroEffect wrote:
On October 13 2011 10:29 hunger wrote:
On October 12 2011 04:29 Tenks wrote:
On October 12 2011 02:16 cydial wrote:
Destiny, someday he will win something big.

Slayers_Dragon, he hasn't won anything yet but he is one of the best terrans in korea.



How can you honestly make a claim like that? Just how big is this pool of the "best Terrans?" Dragon may be entertaining to watch him faceroll Gold scrubs on the NA ladder with 90 rax builds but he is far from one of the "best Terrans" in Korea. He hasn't even managed to enter Code A yet and doesn't even live at SlayerS.


But dude, his stream is awesome and he does really funny stuff. I can only think of LITERALLY two or three DOZEN Terrans that are better than him in Korea right now.

Dragon really isnt that bad. If he can get on a team that will practice with him consistently, im sure he could atleast get up to terrans around the level of Ryung and Ganzi.

On another note, I think my darkhorse is Clide. He is going to win 230897208713 GSL championships before the year is over.

Ryung and Ganzi are top terrans...>_>


Dragon is entertaining as all hell, but that doesn't make him good. He's easily outclassed by top tier terrans in Korea right now. There are more than 2 dozen korean terrans better than him, and even foreign terrans that are better than Dragon. No offense to him, I watch his stream all the time.


Something is wrong with your definition of 'top' if you don't think GanZi is easily one of the best terrans in the world. I think that AnnYeong, TheSTC, Polt ><, and Titan are all underrated players that have been performing quite well lately.


With Koreans it's more a question of being "unknown" in the foreign scene than being "underrated". Beyond his appearance at MLG you wouldn't know about TheStC unless you followed the Korean scene hardcore. There are plenty of good unknowns like MVPFinale, IMTrue, etc. etc. that have yet to make it big in GSL.

Polt would be underrated. Yugioh would be underrated. Inca is definitely underrated.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
January 16 2012 00:38 GMT
#1247
I think Snute is pretty underrated. He seems to have some "slumps" but when he is on, he is incredibly good. Also has a pretty unique style.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
January 16 2012 00:40 GMT
#1248
TSLaLive. He's really good and finished really high in GSL November. Problem is that he isn't attending Foreign event and he is in the shadow of all the korean terrans (even though he is one of the best of them). Which means he doesn't get much recognition.

MvPNoblesse is really good in team leagues, dunno why he doesn't get much attention either. (Probably because Teamleagues has fewer viewers but oh well).

ST_PartinG (the fanbias is strong with this one) watch out for this guy in GSL January <3
리노크 👑
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
January 16 2012 00:46 GMT
#1249
VileIllusion
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Xorphene
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom492 Posts
January 16 2012 00:49 GMT
#1250
Snute, iNcontroL, ostojiy, Haypro, DeMuslim
T: Polt, Fantasy, Flash, Jjakji. P: HerO, Rain, Grubby, SoS. Z: Jaedong, Scarlett, Snute, Life. Casters: ToD, Apollo, MrBitter, Artosis, Day[9].
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 16 2012 00:50 GMT
#1251
MvPKeen. everyone who followed the ksl team league knows what im talking about.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Dannnnn_The_Man
Profile Joined April 2011
United States166 Posts
January 16 2012 00:51 GMT
#1252
Grubby, and if artosis were to practive more I would put him on my list, also axlav. Grubby i have the most faith in though, he's has a macro style play which i think as soon as the people start to get better and are able to hold off early game pressure much better i feel that grubby's style of play will really put him ahead.
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"
fcgog
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 00:55:50
January 16 2012 00:54 GMT
#1253
slider and snute's over rated
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
January 16 2012 00:58 GMT
#1254
On January 16 2012 09:50 Black Gun wrote:
MvPKeen. everyone who followed the ksl team league knows what im talking about.


he also won some foreign tour (zotac?) and just stomped everyone. Fun to see
RxBorG
Profile Joined July 2010
United States505 Posts
January 16 2012 00:58 GMT
#1255
grubby. He probably has the best forcefields in the world
[QUOTE][B]On June 27 2011 03:31 insult wrote:[/B] Haypro hasn't been doing well lately, but when he's in good form he's definitely among the top 10 swedish zerg players. [b][red]User was temp banned for this post.[/red][/b][/QUOTE]
snowhell
Profile Joined December 2011
United States57 Posts
January 16 2012 00:59 GMT
#1256
I would say Axslav. Watch his stream sometime, he commentates all his games while playing at a high level. not to mention mid game hes like "we will have some downtime i'll check chat for some questions".

he has a high understanding of the game just maybe not always the best execution. hes definitely overlooked most the time.
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
January 16 2012 01:12 GMT
#1257
On January 16 2012 09:54 fcgog wrote:
slider and snute's over rated

How are either of those players overrated? Haha, I bet a lot of people on here have never even heard of them. I have watched Snute play and he is quite good. Not to mention his 2v2 streaming is quite fun to watch.
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
January 16 2012 01:19 GMT
#1258
On January 16 2012 09:33 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 09:23 Megabuster123 wrote:
On January 16 2012 09:19 AeroEffect wrote:
On October 13 2011 10:29 hunger wrote:
On October 12 2011 04:29 Tenks wrote:
On October 12 2011 02:16 cydial wrote:
Destiny, someday he will win something big.

Slayers_Dragon, he hasn't won anything yet but he is one of the best terrans in korea.



How can you honestly make a claim like that? Just how big is this pool of the "best Terrans?" Dragon may be entertaining to watch him faceroll Gold scrubs on the NA ladder with 90 rax builds but he is far from one of the "best Terrans" in Korea. He hasn't even managed to enter Code A yet and doesn't even live at SlayerS.


But dude, his stream is awesome and he does really funny stuff. I can only think of LITERALLY two or three DOZEN Terrans that are better than him in Korea right now.

Dragon really isnt that bad. If he can get on a team that will practice with him consistently, im sure he could atleast get up to terrans around the level of Ryung and Ganzi.

On another note, I think my darkhorse is Clide. He is going to win 230897208713 GSL championships before the year is over.

Ryung and Ganzi are top terrans...>_>


Dragon is entertaining as all hell, but that doesn't make him good. He's easily outclassed by top tier terrans in Korea right now. There are more than 2 dozen korean terrans better than him, and even foreign terrans that are better than Dragon. No offense to him, I watch his stream all the time.


Something is wrong with your definition of 'top' if you don't think GanZi is easily one of the best terrans in the world. I think that AnnYeong, TheSTC, Polt ><, and Titan are all underrated players that have been performing quite well lately.

Where did I say that Ganzi wasn't one of the best terrans? I said Ryung and Ganzi are top terrans in Korea. Whoever I'm responding to says that if Dragon just practices he can just get to their level, but their level is significantly higher than the average korean terran.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
January 16 2012 01:20 GMT
#1259
Deezer. Half the time he beats Destiny I really don't think he's even looking at the stream-- he just out macros and outmicros him.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
January 16 2012 01:23 GMT
#1260
TSL Polt
Inno pls...
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