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HardMacro
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada361 Posts
October 11 2011 16:05 GMT
#1201
On October 12 2011 00:47 Disarm22 wrote:
MakaPrime and Destiny


How so?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ saving this here because I use it, don't know how to make it, and don't know it's name
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 11 2011 16:09 GMT
#1202
On October 12 2011 00:57 Megatronn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 00:38 turdburgler wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:29 Megatronn wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:23 HardMacro wrote:
Destiny for sure.

I just found about this guy today, and I'm puzzled at how such a terrible player (relative to other pros) has managed to garner such a large fanbase.

He streams to stomp on casual ladder kids... and he's won... nothing.

I think you're in the wrong thread.

RGHSlush for sure, this guy is actually so good and every time I watch a group prediction thread for MLG everyone gives him like 0 chance to win anything even though he's been like top 12 at every MLG this year.



i think slush is overrated if anything -_-. sure he makes a splash at mlgs getting like top 20. but hes never in contention to win anything because his style isnt 'good'. he basically plays a coin flipping style, attacking at anti timings which work if you are against idra who thinks people must be retarded to attack then, but people who play much safer games crush him. this kind of style takes games off of much better players a decent amount of the time, but this inflates his elo/mmr/whatever to a point where the people he plays day to day actually stomp him.

i feel like this exact description could be used for destiny too ;/

Everyone has their own style of play, if it works for them then they keep on doing it. If a player isn't ready for an attack or a timing they don't know is coming they deserve to lose, how do you know Slush doesn't watch replays and picks out weird timings that people wouldn't expect. The thing about the MMR is just wrong.


but my point is it doesnt work if he wants to win the money, he needs to emulate other zergs who are winning things? if he was putting as much time into analysis of the players he is about to play he would be destroying every league, clearly this isnt true, it also wouldnt explain his apparent better play at mlg than anywhere else, where he doesnt know his opponent.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
October 11 2011 16:13 GMT
#1203
On October 12 2011 01:09 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 00:57 Megatronn wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:38 turdburgler wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:29 Megatronn wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:23 HardMacro wrote:
Destiny for sure.

I just found about this guy today, and I'm puzzled at how such a terrible player (relative to other pros) has managed to garner such a large fanbase.

He streams to stomp on casual ladder kids... and he's won... nothing.

I think you're in the wrong thread.

RGHSlush for sure, this guy is actually so good and every time I watch a group prediction thread for MLG everyone gives him like 0 chance to win anything even though he's been like top 12 at every MLG this year.



i think slush is overrated if anything -_-. sure he makes a splash at mlgs getting like top 20. but hes never in contention to win anything because his style isnt 'good'. he basically plays a coin flipping style, attacking at anti timings which work if you are against idra who thinks people must be retarded to attack then, but people who play much safer games crush him. this kind of style takes games off of much better players a decent amount of the time, but this inflates his elo/mmr/whatever to a point where the people he plays day to day actually stomp him.

i feel like this exact description could be used for destiny too ;/

Everyone has their own style of play, if it works for them then they keep on doing it. If a player isn't ready for an attack or a timing they don't know is coming they deserve to lose, how do you know Slush doesn't watch replays and picks out weird timings that people wouldn't expect. The thing about the MMR is just wrong.


but my point is it doesnt work if he wants to win the money, he needs to emulate other zergs who are winning things? if he was putting as much time into analysis of the players he is about to play he would be destroying every league, clearly this isnt true, it also wouldnt explain his apparent better play at mlg than anywhere else, where he doesnt know his opponent.

If you consistently place high at MLG obviously something is working. Sc2 is far to young to have all the MUs figured out so there is great diversity in the play style you can choose from. An example, look at Stephano vs TheStc in IPL3, he uses ling infestor and muta ling both beating TheStc, there is not 1 set play style for any 1 MU.
epicanthic
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong295 Posts
October 11 2011 16:14 GMT
#1204
DIMAGA.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 11 2011 16:24 GMT
#1205
On October 12 2011 01:13 Megatronn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 01:09 turdburgler wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:57 Megatronn wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:38 turdburgler wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:29 Megatronn wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:23 HardMacro wrote:
Destiny for sure.

I just found about this guy today, and I'm puzzled at how such a terrible player (relative to other pros) has managed to garner such a large fanbase.

He streams to stomp on casual ladder kids... and he's won... nothing.

I think you're in the wrong thread.

RGHSlush for sure, this guy is actually so good and every time I watch a group prediction thread for MLG everyone gives him like 0 chance to win anything even though he's been like top 12 at every MLG this year.



i think slush is overrated if anything -_-. sure he makes a splash at mlgs getting like top 20. but hes never in contention to win anything because his style isnt 'good'. he basically plays a coin flipping style, attacking at anti timings which work if you are against idra who thinks people must be retarded to attack then, but people who play much safer games crush him. this kind of style takes games off of much better players a decent amount of the time, but this inflates his elo/mmr/whatever to a point where the people he plays day to day actually stomp him.

i feel like this exact description could be used for destiny too ;/

Everyone has their own style of play, if it works for them then they keep on doing it. If a player isn't ready for an attack or a timing they don't know is coming they deserve to lose, how do you know Slush doesn't watch replays and picks out weird timings that people wouldn't expect. The thing about the MMR is just wrong.


but my point is it doesnt work if he wants to win the money, he needs to emulate other zergs who are winning things? if he was putting as much time into analysis of the players he is about to play he would be destroying every league, clearly this isnt true, it also wouldnt explain his apparent better play at mlg than anywhere else, where he doesnt know his opponent.

If you consistently place high at MLG obviously something is working. Sc2 is far to young to have all the MUs figured out so there is great diversity in the play style you can choose from. An example, look at Stephano vs TheStc in IPL3, he uses ling infestor and muta ling both beating TheStc, there is not 1 set play style for any 1 MU.


but this isnt style in the same sense of the word, this is style as in taking huuuuuge risks. and the risks he takes dont win you 10 games in a row required to actually win something, thats why 'good' players dont advocate taking so many risks. and the risks you do take have to be calculated and refined.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 11 2011 16:31 GMT
#1206
On October 12 2011 01:13 Megatronn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 01:09 turdburgler wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:57 Megatronn wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:38 turdburgler wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:29 Megatronn wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:23 HardMacro wrote:
Destiny for sure.

I just found about this guy today, and I'm puzzled at how such a terrible player (relative to other pros) has managed to garner such a large fanbase.

He streams to stomp on casual ladder kids... and he's won... nothing.

I think you're in the wrong thread.

RGHSlush for sure, this guy is actually so good and every time I watch a group prediction thread for MLG everyone gives him like 0 chance to win anything even though he's been like top 12 at every MLG this year.



i think slush is overrated if anything -_-. sure he makes a splash at mlgs getting like top 20. but hes never in contention to win anything because his style isnt 'good'. he basically plays a coin flipping style, attacking at anti timings which work if you are against idra who thinks people must be retarded to attack then, but people who play much safer games crush him. this kind of style takes games off of much better players a decent amount of the time, but this inflates his elo/mmr/whatever to a point where the people he plays day to day actually stomp him.

i feel like this exact description could be used for destiny too ;/

Everyone has their own style of play, if it works for them then they keep on doing it. If a player isn't ready for an attack or a timing they don't know is coming they deserve to lose, how do you know Slush doesn't watch replays and picks out weird timings that people wouldn't expect. The thing about the MMR is just wrong.


but my point is it doesnt work if he wants to win the money, he needs to emulate other zergs who are winning things? if he was putting as much time into analysis of the players he is about to play he would be destroying every league, clearly this isnt true, it also wouldnt explain his apparent better play at mlg than anywhere else, where he doesnt know his opponent.

If you consistently place high at MLG obviously something is working. Sc2 is far to young to have all the MUs figured out so there is great diversity in the play style you can choose from. An example, look at Stephano vs TheStc in IPL3, he uses ling infestor and muta ling both beating TheStc, there is not 1 set play style for any 1 MU.

There is a difference between being an all in cheeser and having multiple styles for management games. There is not 1 set play style for any 1 MU BUT all inning and cheesing is not one of them. Exploiting timings others don't know about will give you wins which will win tournaments, but they will never become standard due to the coinflippy nature of it.
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
October 11 2011 16:36 GMT
#1207
Dimaga, Nerchio, FD
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
October 11 2011 16:37 GMT
#1208
Dimaga, since lesser zergs are named above him as top foreigners all the time.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
October 11 2011 17:04 GMT
#1209
Nestea

He's awesome, people know he's awesome, but he's even more awesome than that.
Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 17:05:31
October 11 2011 17:04 GMT
#1210
HasuObs, a natural talent, lacking practice.
DiMAGA, amazing player, have consistency issues but when he goes berserk he is unstoppable.
DaSakura
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada63 Posts
October 11 2011 17:05 GMT
#1211
ALEXCMOI
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
October 11 2011 17:06 GMT
#1212
DiMaga!
Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
October 11 2011 17:07 GMT
#1213
IdrA
Woop Woop!
cydial
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States750 Posts
October 11 2011 17:16 GMT
#1214
Destiny, someday he will win something big.

Slayers_Dragon, he hasn't won anything yet but he is one of the best terrans in korea.
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
October 11 2011 17:29 GMT
#1215
(Z)TargA, (T)Major, (Z)ChAnCe, (T)IMHappy, (T)Rain, (T)TheStC, (T)asd, (T)Bratok
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 11 2011 17:30 GMT
#1216
On October 12 2011 01:03 sVnteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 00:46 Plexa wrote:
Snute.

Haven't heard of him? Yeah thats how underrated he is.

hes quite good i have to say

hes norwegian right?
he totally roflstomped me some day on ladder (eventhough i dont know how his mmr was that low so he would play me lol)

After he roflstomped mana in some Go4SC2 I've been picking him for big things
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RabidSeagull
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
October 11 2011 17:37 GMT
#1217
I'd say DeMuslim doesn't get much attention usually, he's really good and I expect him to start winning bigger events now that he is more healthy and able to practice hard.
I be the body dropper, the heartbeat stopper. Child educator, plus head amputator
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 17:41:49
October 11 2011 17:40 GMT
#1218
On October 12 2011 02:30 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 01:03 sVnteen wrote:
On October 12 2011 00:46 Plexa wrote:
Snute.

Haven't heard of him? Yeah thats how underrated he is.

hes quite good i have to say

hes norwegian right?
he totally roflstomped me some day on ladder (eventhough i dont know how his mmr was that low so he would play me lol)

After he roflstomped mana in some Go4SC2 I've been picking him for big things

Plexa, you can't steal Snute, I've been shamelessly plugging him for longer than you have.

He recently won three of Norway's biggest LANs in just a week and a half, and he'll be going to ESWC and WCG as the Norwegian representative. So you'll see him in major lans soon.
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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
October 11 2011 19:29 GMT
#1219
On October 12 2011 02:16 cydial wrote:
Destiny, someday he will win something big.

Slayers_Dragon, he hasn't won anything yet but he is one of the best terrans in korea.



How can you honestly make a claim like that? Just how big is this pool of the "best Terrans?" Dragon may be entertaining to watch him faceroll Gold scrubs on the NA ladder with 90 rax builds but he is far from one of the "best Terrans" in Korea. He hasn't even managed to enter Code A yet and doesn't even live at SlayerS.
Wat
pewpew415
Profile Joined December 2010
United States48 Posts
October 11 2011 19:31 GMT
#1220
kawaiirice
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