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Koillette
Profile Joined March 2011
56 Posts
July 16 2011 02:33 GMT
#181
Congratz to him. I don't know much much about him or how GSL works. But i must admit that what he is doing is something i have thought about(In dream, I know i suck at star craft) putting everything up on the line and just go for it. I know I am to scared to do so myself. Maybe one day ill do something like that who knows =)

But I don't believe that he should be given the spot. But I would rather see is that he finds a place to live and is able to keep on going after he's dream.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
July 16 2011 02:34 GMT
#182
Why doesn't Carn just get into a Western clan like Europeans for now and get some pay?? It can't be that hard since hehas been playing in Korea that long and can actually compete in Code A qualifiers. What he did is both admirable and really crazy at the same time, more thought should've been put in.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
July 16 2011 02:40 GMT
#183
carn should come win MLG!
Applecakes
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia319 Posts
July 16 2011 02:41 GMT
#184
Every time I've seen him play in the Korean weekly its been fairly lackluster . I wouldn't place money on him to succeed at MLG.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
July 16 2011 02:46 GMT
#185
On July 16 2011 08:44 desrow wrote:
people are giving way too much shit to carn. GL carn hope you make it


Seriously, when have any of you gotten off of your asses and actually pursued your dreams and passions. What carn is doing is incredible and the fact that he has come so far in such a short time is nothing to be scoffed at by anyone.

However, I don't understand the reason for the op. Sure, it brings attention to him, but really, what's the point? Why not wait until he succeeds rather than write an article now bitching about how unjust the system is? I don't see carn whining, he's probably practicing right now trying to overcome the adversity.
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Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
July 16 2011 02:49 GMT
#186
I love the weekend warriors saying negative stuff like they've watched caRn from his birth. The guy has 100% more dedication to competing and he has shown better results then a lot of top North American players in the Qualifiers. I really wish well for the guy and hope he doesn't give up because if he actually could practice with a team he'd improve even more. To get that late in the Code A qualifier is grueling.

It's all about who you know I guess.
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
July 16 2011 02:51 GMT
#187
I feel sorry for him, I think he has tried to qualify for Code A for more than 4 times already? He certainly deserves some recognition for this determination
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Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
July 16 2011 03:08 GMT
#188
I wish that Carn could play in tournaments outside of Korea. He definitely have the skills to do very well. Sad that he doesn't have the sponsors to do so.
:)
arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
July 16 2011 03:13 GMT
#189
This guy is gonna be the biggest beast, final round of qualifiers with no previous RTS experience :SSS
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
July 16 2011 03:17 GMT
#190
Ave Cæsar, morituri te salutant
(Hail the Emperor, we who are about to die salute you! - words of the ancient gladiators of the Colosseum)

Why is this even relevant? Because cArn follows the same code of honor. I remember the hype video about him moving to korea and what i thought back then "this guy doesn't stand a chance". I always though he was an unknowing westerner that had heard that korea was the best place to pracc and doesn't know the real level of competition. I still follow that sentiment, but what has transpired has shown me differently. Not in my initial judgement, but my judgement of character. I remember Wolf recently "dissed" him (about one or two months ago) saying he had the lowest mouse speed he had ever seen. Which is pivotal to making it as a pro-gamer, and he still hasn't improved that part of the game.

But this post isn't about cArn's skill, its about his attitude. He has kept with it. He has continuously tried to improve his game (even though he has no "special talent"). He has kept on playing without an auto-berth into code-A. He has continued to fight against his fate, against the odds and without any backup organization (which is more than any failed non-koreans in the GSL so far). Huk and Jinro have the right attitude (they keep on training hard and going against the best - the only remedy to prevent an all-korean onslaught a year from now). Without any official recognition or "great tour results" (even though i think he placed 4th in a "best of the best" of france tour") he has kept at it.

So my final words will be:
cArn, I salute you!
I hope your mentality and perseverance will succeed in the long run. When every non-korean pro will lose due to laziness and lack of practice - you will have done everything within your power to improve. Even though you don't truly succeed there can be no blame on your part. In a philosophical way you are the greatest pro-westerner.

You will always have my deep rooted respect
Cheers from Norway
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 03:55:08
July 16 2011 03:52 GMT
#191
I was feeling sorry for him until it was revealed he plays terran, now I'm ambivalent.


But on a serious note, I'm shocked no korean team has picked him up if he's getting that far through code A quals. Why doesn't he just talk to some of the korean teams and get himself recruited instead of just begging for a Code A spot? I'm sure he's learned at least some of the language in a year, and if not he could probably have the deal brokered by a translator.The korean teams are taking players who've done far worse in code A qualifiers, I'm sure they'd be glad to have him, especially with how far he's come under horrible circumstances. I think in a more stable training environment he can do this.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
July 16 2011 04:09 GMT
#192
On July 16 2011 12:52 Drowsy wrote:
I was feeling sorry for him until it was revealed he plays terran, now I'm ambivalent.


But on a serious note, I'm shocked no korean team has picked him up if he's getting that far through code A quals. Why doesn't he just talk to some of the korean teams and get himself recruited instead of just begging for a Code A spot? I'm sure he's learned at least some of the language in a year, and if not he could probably have the deal brokered by a translator.The korean teams are taking players who've done far worse in code A qualifiers, I'm sure they'd be glad to have him, especially with how far he's come under horrible circumstances. I think in a more stable training environment he can do this.

He's not begging for any spots. He's trying to earn his Code A placement.
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LeoA
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada108 Posts
July 16 2011 05:52 GMT
#193
They should not have kicked him out of the GOM house, so that a team could live there...Its not the FXO house, and it never will be, and in my opinion its disgusting that someone like cArn would get kicked out just so that a mediocre team could lose in the GSTL, and their ace could turn his back on the country...

I used to be a FXO fanboy, but if its because of them cArn has no place to train, fuck them.
Before you say anything, remember...I bite.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
July 16 2011 05:58 GMT
#194
On July 16 2011 13:09 garlicface wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 12:52 Drowsy wrote:
I was feeling sorry for him until it was revealed he plays terran, now I'm ambivalent.


But on a serious note, I'm shocked no korean team has picked him up if he's getting that far through code A quals. Why doesn't he just talk to some of the korean teams and get himself recruited instead of just begging for a Code A spot? I'm sure he's learned at least some of the language in a year, and if not he could probably have the deal brokered by a translator.The korean teams are taking players who've done far worse in code A qualifiers, I'm sure they'd be glad to have him, especially with how far he's come under horrible circumstances. I think in a more stable training environment he can do this.

He's not begging for any spots. He's trying to earn his Code A placement.


right, I understand that and probably should have rephrased. Rather than the OP and others begging for Carn to just be granted Code A spot, the community (and Carn himself) should try to campaign for him to get recruited by a korean team. With a better practice environment, I'm quite sure he could qualify.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
July 16 2011 05:58 GMT
#195
On July 16 2011 11:09 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 08:24 Jayrod wrote:
Being able to move to Korea to play a video game for 10 months now and being able to survive without need for work is pretty much the definition of priveleged. I don't and won't feel bad because he just didn't reach a GSL level and people pay good money to watch GSL caliber players compete. Sheth was gifted a spot because hes a great player and a fan favorite. Carn is neither.

Sheth is not a great player. He didn't deserve that spot.

LOL

I'm sorry, what? Sheth isn't a great player? I guess beating a 2 time GSL semi-finalist makes you totally bad, am I right?
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 06:10:02
July 16 2011 06:09 GMT
#196
I hope he can get OK practice in the boarding house, as thats probably whats holding him back. Its a shame he could not get a deal to practice with any of the korean teams, OGS-TL comes to mind as a good candidate. If he can make it to the final round of the qualifiers I am really surprised none of them will offer him a spot (especially if he pays for his food/boarding in the house).

Got to admire his perseverance though, when does he have to return to france?
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
July 16 2011 06:10 GMT
#197
I think he doesn't deserve the free Code A spot, but he does deserve to stay in the GOM house
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
July 16 2011 06:12 GMT
#198
What is with all the negative posts? Replace cArn with IdrA or MC, give them no team or practice partners, and no stable housing and see how well they do. The guy does not deserve a free code A spot, but he definitely should be picked up by a team, or at the very least be given a place to stay and train in the GOM house.
qck
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom201 Posts
July 16 2011 06:16 GMT
#199
He's not entitled to anything just for pursuing his dreams.
Good luck to him anyway.
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namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
July 16 2011 06:24 GMT
#200
Carn, contact Fox. they don't have enough players so.... maybe?
You know what I'm talking about
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