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On July 15 2011 12:52 fadestep wrote: Pretty dumb of Incontrol to bring up TotalBiscuit like he did. Draws attention away from everything else he said well and makes the conversation instead revolve around some stupid drama instead.
It was a good interview otherwise.
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On July 15 2011 16:01 iNcontroL wrote:love you guys  Don't worry! I will def say stuff in the future you guys will get all pissy about. It's kinda inevitable.. but the world keeps on moving forward and I learn each time to dial it back. Name dropping was bad. Point I made was fine. Lesson learned! The fact that you still believe that your point was fine, after all the comments showing how it was not at all, makes you look even more like a tool.
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On July 15 2011 16:39 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 12:52 fadestep wrote: Pretty dumb of Incontrol to bring up TotalBiscuit like he did. Draws attention away from everything else he said well and makes the conversation instead revolve around some stupid drama instead. It was a good interview otherwise.
Well, calling Tyler one of the worst players in the NASL when he did better than Inc himself was kind of questionable as well.
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On July 15 2011 16:36 Jibba wrote:My thoughts exactly. Really nice job by the interviewer, and even if his answers upset you, you should at least appreciate how open and thorough iNcontroL was with his answers. There are worse things than being too forthright. EDIT: And I disagree 100% with his stance on TB/Lindsay, but I'm still glad he gave it. It is a shame that such an insightful interview was undermined by a single line. However, the TB thing was pretty much out of left field, and I still honestly don't get the point he was trying to make by using him as an example. The only thing I got out of that answer was that he is under the impression that people like TB, who come from outside the SC community, saw it only as a monetary opportunity. I just feel it's a weak argument based on the example he gave. As an "outsider", TB actually lost a portion of his audience by choosing to produce content for the SC2 community.
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On July 15 2011 16:45 yeint wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 16:39 Ownos wrote:On July 15 2011 12:52 fadestep wrote: Pretty dumb of Incontrol to bring up TotalBiscuit like he did. Draws attention away from everything else he said well and makes the conversation instead revolve around some stupid drama instead. It was a good interview otherwise. Well, calling Tyler one of the worst players in the NASL when he did better than Inc himself was kind of questionable as well.
Well, not to support the argument one way or the other, it should be pointed out that iNcontroL was 4-5 (beating Ensnare, Cruncher, QXC, and White-Ra) and Tyler was 3-6 (beating PainUser, Drewbie, and Cloud)
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People actually said day 2 was almost perfect? What? Talk about a relative point of view, LOL.
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On July 15 2011 16:50 Ansalem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 16:45 yeint wrote:On July 15 2011 16:39 Ownos wrote:On July 15 2011 12:52 fadestep wrote: Pretty dumb of Incontrol to bring up TotalBiscuit like he did. Draws attention away from everything else he said well and makes the conversation instead revolve around some stupid drama instead. It was a good interview otherwise. Well, calling Tyler one of the worst players in the NASL when he did better than Inc himself was kind of questionable as well. Well, not to support the argument one way or the other, it should be pointed out that iNcontroL was 4-5 (beating Ensnare, Cruncher, QXC, and White-Ra) and Tyler was 3-6 (beating PainUser, Drewbie, and Cloud)
Tyler was 7th in his group, Inc was 8th in his group. If anything, they placed equally low. Whether it's true or not, it's just kind of untoward to name drop like that, using language like that.
"One of the worst players" is a far cry from something more diplomatic, like "didn't get as far as expected, but then again, neither did I".
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Ok, so what if TotalBiscuit came to SC2 for money....? T hat's like saying SC:BW Pros came to SC2 for money and that's ridiculous. You even had TotalBiscuit cast for NASL, was that some scheme to make him look like a fool? Obviously not... because you used him for the Top 10 plays of the week, even TotalBiscuit has his strong points.
It seems Dickish to put someones name out on the spot like that what about other people that came out of the blue during SC2 someone like JP? He's great for E-sports and all, but really do you think his incentive was to do all this for no money? I'm sure he knew SC2 was gonna be big or was big already and decided to become involved with this fabulous game.
Starcraft won't grow if you can't even get along with your fellow Starcraft 2 mates and why bash them? Look at all the crap the SlayerS team is getting right now for the new recruit, its bullcrap... Do you want SC2 to be a strictly Male-only game? I don't care if you're a model, or you terribly suck at the game, we all have the same incentive on these forums.... And that's to make E-sports grow, but together!
Another point to add: All of a sudden you're not allowed to be involved with SC2 because you haven't been involved from the start? So much bullshit.
Sorry, I tried my best at not using swearwords.
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Sorry to beat a dead horse here, but really, bringing up TB for no reason?
It is pretty widely known (hes said himself) that TB's least popular "segment" is Starcraft 2 and that he makes the LEAST amount of money from covering and doing it, as compared to things like WoW and other games he reviews.
How in the world is that him switching to SC2 for the money?
Who is Incontrol to say that he doesn't have a love for the game? You respect him less because he switched for MONEY?
ESPORTS...for money? Normally a big fan of ya Incontrol but no need to single out TB like that for an incorrect reason.
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Besides the name dropping that was kinda... well not the smartest thing to do. I dont understand the not liking people from other sports. I mean, we want this to grow. We want this to be huge. Why would it be a bad thing that SCII attracts talent/knowledge from out side of the 'old' scene.
can somebody explain this for me please?
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this just in - making money is bad!
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he made his whole internet persona from bashing other people, surely wasn't his playing skills. what did u expect ?
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On July 15 2011 17:01 betaV1.25 wrote: Besides the name dropping that was kinda... well not the smartest thing to do. I dont understand the not liking people from other sports. I mean, we want this to grow. We want this to be huge. Why would it be a bad thing that SCII attracts talent/knowledge from out side of the 'old' scene.
can somebody explain this for me please? Its a bad thing when Incontrol has a personal beef with you. Or when you are not a hot blonde.
Dunno, one of the two.
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In-short we're all feeding the troll. But I won't say who it is because calling someone out isn't the right way.
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note to self not to insult anyone in public unless you're idra otherwise you're a hero and are hilarious
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The jab at Tyler was one of the most asinine accusations I've read in a while, especially in a league that was invite only and had players like Artosis and Grubby
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I honestly take more offense at people coming from other sports just to make money in Starcraft II--someone like TotalBiscuit. Let's read something he said earlier in the same interview.. something like
But when someone is basically just being a jerk, making personal attacks, making claims about someones professionalism, or who they respect, when those things are pushed too far you risk becoming just some anonymous flamer on a forum. Refreshing.
For anyone who wants a summary of the NASL hiring strategy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism
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On July 15 2011 13:46 FabledIntegral wrote: I thought Lindsay Sporrer added some nice eye candy. I also found her questions amusing to say the least. Down with the haters!
Actually this is the first time I heard people had beef with the interviewer. Really? Does everyone working in SC2 has to have this BURNING HOT PASSION FOR SC2? It's like... no you can't clean my NASL toilets unless you're diamond league at the minimum haha.
Wow a pretty face was hired to ask some questions anyone could ask. What's the big deal again?
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On July 15 2011 17:26 Ownos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 13:46 FabledIntegral wrote: I thought Lindsay Sporrer added some nice eye candy. I also found her questions amusing to say the least. Down with the haters! Actually this is the first time I heard people had beef with the interviewer. Really? Does everyone working in SC2 has to have this BURNING HOT PASSION FOR SC2? It's like... no you can't clean my NASL toilets unless you're diamond league at the minimum haha. Wow a pretty face was hired to ask some questions anyone could ask. What's the big deal again?
Apparently, because that's the deal for TotalBiscuit because he wasn't there from the start... So why bash him? Same for Lindsay... Let TotalBiscuit please the part of the community that likes him and let the others please the other parts of the community.
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You did a great job Geoff, not only during the finals but also the casting in the months before. These days I really miss watching my daily Nasl vods =)
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