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An NASL Retrospective With EG.iNcontroL - Page 8

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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 15 2011 07:04 GMT
#141
oh my bad.. where does one get a brain btw?
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3823 Posts
July 15 2011 07:05 GMT
#142
The question that came out of this interview for me was: When was Sporrer hired for the NASL job?

Because, unless she was literally hired at the last minute for this gig, Incontrol's comment:

I take less offense to someone like Lindsey, an actress and a model, getting hired for a gig and she says yes not because she’s looking to get rich but because it’s a good job doing what she enjoys and she’s dedicated to doing it well.


is complete nonsense because she clearly WASN'T dedicated to doing it well considering how hard she fucked up and how obvious her lack of knowledge of the game was. Assuming she was given sufficient time, if she was actually dedicated to doing it well, she would have done a loooooooooooot more preparation for the job and wouldn't have come out of it looking completely clueless (and inc's comments would have had a bit more clout).
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 15 2011 07:06 GMT
#143
On July 15 2011 16:04 Duravi wrote:
Show nested quote +
Commenting on TB was really dumb but the rest of the interview was totally on point, so I love you anyways. <3 Mr. Robinson


So you really feel that this:

Show nested quote +
The downtime is not irregular or unique to the NASL at all. There was air time during Homestory Cup III of players barbecuing, there’s MLG where I can go take a nap between my matches--that’s all just the usual run of things.


is point on? Either he is dodging like a ninja or he is really that self-absorbed that he thinks him being able to take naps somehow translates into down time for the spectators.


Probably me being self absorbed.. sorry I am not answering everything everyone is asking!
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 07:09:04
July 15 2011 07:08 GMT
#144
On July 15 2011 16:05 Brett wrote:
The question that came out of this interview for me was: When was Sporrer hired for the NASL job?

Because, unless she was literally hired at the last minute for this gig, Incontrol's comment:

Show nested quote +
I take less offense to someone like Lindsey, an actress and a model, getting hired for a gig and she says yes not because she’s looking to get rich but because it’s a good job doing what she enjoys and she’s dedicated to doing it well.


is complete nonsense because she clearly WASN'T dedicated to doing it well considering how hard she fucked up and how obvious her lack of knowledge of the game was. Assuming she was given sufficient time, if she was actually dedicated to doing it well, she would have done a loooooooooooot more preparation for the job and wouldn't have come out of it looking completely clueless (and inc's comments would have had a bit more clout).


Someone tweeted (I think AskJoshy?) that she was reading up on starcraft on her ipad after she did the interviews so the next ones would be better.

That sir is hardcore dedication.
Trololol.
Snitches get stiches
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
July 15 2011 07:08 GMT
#145
On July 15 2011 16:01 iNcontroL wrote:
love you guys Don't worry! I will def say stuff in the future you guys will get all pissy about. It's kinda inevitable.. but the world keeps on moving forward and I learn each time to dial it back. Name dropping was bad. Point I made was fine. Lesson learned!



The point you made is totally invalid, dude. Why the hell should you be offended because people migrate towards sc2 because there is money there, when all you have been talking about is getting money into the scene, to the point where you can't even tolerate fresh language on a private stream?

Also, totalbisquit probably makes more money of his WoW content than he ever will of his sc2 stuff, so the whole jab was just totally of the mark.

Your drama, blunders, namedroppings and whatever I have enjoyed, this fucking self-righteousness is too much to stand.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Tehs Tehklz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States330 Posts
July 15 2011 07:11 GMT
#146
On July 15 2011 16:04 iNcontroL wrote:
oh my bad.. where does one get a brain btw?


Emerald City.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3823 Posts
July 15 2011 07:11 GMT
#147
On July 15 2011 16:08 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 16:05 Brett wrote:
The question that came out of this interview for me was: When was Sporrer hired for the NASL job?

Because, unless she was literally hired at the last minute for this gig, Incontrol's comment:

I take less offense to someone like Lindsey, an actress and a model, getting hired for a gig and she says yes not because she’s looking to get rich but because it’s a good job doing what she enjoys and she’s dedicated to doing it well.


is complete nonsense because she clearly WASN'T dedicated to doing it well considering how hard she fucked up and how obvious her lack of knowledge of the game was. Assuming she was given sufficient time, if she was actually dedicated to doing it well, she would have done a loooooooooooot more preparation for the job and wouldn't have come out of it looking completely clueless (and inc's comments would have had a bit more clout).


Someone tweeted (I think AskJoshy?) that she was reading up on starcraft on her ipad after she did the interviews.

That sir is hardcore dedication.
Trololol.

Good for her. She responded to the criticism. She had to if she had any sense. It just means that if she WAS given an appropriate amount of time to prepare, then she's not a complete idiot.

The professional move would be to prepare BEFORE the job, not during or after the job as the criticism flies in.

Of course, if she was called in for the gig the day before, then it's the organisation's fault, not hers.
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 07:22:08
July 15 2011 07:12 GMT
#148
On July 15 2011 16:06 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 16:04 Duravi wrote:
Commenting on TB was really dumb but the rest of the interview was totally on point, so I love you anyways. <3 Mr. Robinson


So you really feel that this:

The downtime is not irregular or unique to the NASL at all. There was air time during Homestory Cup III of players barbecuing, there’s MLG where I can go take a nap between my matches--that’s all just the usual run of things.


is point on? Either he is dodging like a ninja or he is really that self-absorbed that he thinks him being able to take naps somehow translates into down time for the spectators.


Probably me being self absorbed.. sorry I am not answering everything everyone is asking!

You're claiming you made a fine point , but do you mind explaining it a little better? What irks you so much about people like TB entering the SC2 scene? Do you honestly think they just see it as a money opportunity for them? TB has said multiple times that he would be better off not producing SC2 content (money wise), and yet you claim that it's his primary reason for getting into this scene. Don't you think his statement kind of contradicts your argument?

Edit: You make it hard for me to stay a fan inc. I think your a hilarious guy to listen too and have a very entertaining personality. It's just the consistency in which you make comments like these that really bothers me. I know you guys had a little scrum after that one state of the game. But is it really smart to harp on what was really just a miscommunication to begin with (when this drama really started). It's pretty silly
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
nozh
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada93 Posts
July 15 2011 07:16 GMT
#149
guys guys guys hold on let me explain; incontrol does all this jetsetting around the world for sponsors and commercials and coaching For The Love Of The Game. he would do it for free if he had to. people like totalbiscuit... man... how shallow. creating content for and interest in the industry for profit... that is so totally "less awesome" than what he and other e-sports lovers like lindsey sporrer do.

please tell me more about how much you do for the community out of the kindness of your heart and not for money at all.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
July 15 2011 07:16 GMT
#150
I love these threads. All the armchair admirals jump into them like piranhas.

Nonetheless, thanks for your perspective on the NASL.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
longdivision
Profile Joined December 2010
United States170 Posts
July 15 2011 07:20 GMT
#151
I remember when incontrol was a BW player. Too bad he switched to a different game just for the money. I don't think he's a giant tool or anything, I just respect him less.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
July 15 2011 07:29 GMT
#152
On July 15 2011 16:06 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 16:04 Duravi wrote:
Commenting on TB was really dumb but the rest of the interview was totally on point, so I love you anyways. <3 Mr. Robinson


So you really feel that this:

The downtime is not irregular or unique to the NASL at all. There was air time during Homestory Cup III of players barbecuing, there’s MLG where I can go take a nap between my matches--that’s all just the usual run of things.


is point on? Either he is dodging like a ninja or he is really that self-absorbed that he thinks him being able to take naps somehow translates into down time for the spectators.


Probably me being self absorbed.. sorry I am not answering everything everyone is asking!

You really should try out the tasteless build and just stop replying on forums when you know it will instigate more flames. Just admit it was a stupid thing to say, because it was, and be done with it. Simple~
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
July 15 2011 07:29 GMT
#153
On July 15 2011 16:20 longdivision wrote:
I remember when incontrol was a BW player. Too bad he switched to a different game just for the money. I don't think he's a giant tool or anything, I just respect him less.

Of all the foreign bw pros that switched to sc2, I actually think iNcontroL is one of few players who like sc2 better than bw.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 15 2011 07:30 GMT
#154
Incontrol, I don't even like TB, but you honestly just lost a fan. I don't know if your duplicity is calculated or just a side effect of near-pathological rationalization, but you just come off as a petty and narcissistic person lately.

You accusing people of monetizing SC2 is not stone throwing in a glass house, it's firing a trebuchet inside the Louvre pyramid. Please think before you speak next time.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Teejing
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany1360 Posts
July 15 2011 07:31 GMT
#155
I am glad i was not the only one confused.

Inc is offended by people who come in "just for the money"?

Coming to sc2 just to look pretty ( no offense lindsay i still love you ) and getting paid for it is better than a caster who helps sc2 grow, gets money as a reward and then puts some of it back into sc2 community ?

Or is Inc saying that calculating money from sc2 is worse than getting it beforehand?

I did read Inc´s posts here, but instead of explaining his post he just said that in truth he did not mean shit and it was just poor wording? Not much of an explanation.
Castrophy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States232 Posts
July 15 2011 07:35 GMT
#156
I'm a pretty big fan Geoff but I don't understand your comment on TB or your posts in this thread. To say TB switched to SC content to make money is terribly misinformed. TB's views on his WoW videos got way more views then the SC stuff he does. He's said it a million times that he knows the majority of his subscribers don't care for SC but he posts it because he enjoys it and knows others do as well. It makes no sense to say he is in it for the money. If he were in it for the money would he not still be doing Azeroth Daily which made him way more then his SC stuff?

You respect a guy less because he got into somthing new that he enjoys and now he is profiting from the great content he produces? That's like saying you respect a guy who takes a job that pays less but he does it because he enjoys it. I really wish you would have thought before you called a guy out like that.

TB is a great guy for the community giving back to the community with self funded tournaments and bringing many new people to the scene. I got into esports because of TBs shoutcraft show matches in the beta.

oniman999
Profile Joined May 2011
United States169 Posts
July 15 2011 07:35 GMT
#157
I feel bad for iNc here :/ Like others are saying, it was a great interview other than that one line on TB. I was kinda upset cause I like TB, but I really don't think iNcontrol meant anything harmful by it. Just ignore the one line, accept that he has learned his lesson about naming specific people, and move on.

TB himself hasn't said anything about it yet, and we know if TB was offended he would make sure we knew as well. So if TB is upset, nobody else should be either
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 07:39:39
July 15 2011 07:36 GMT
#158
On July 15 2011 15:12 SK.Testie wrote:
Damn good responses, nice interview.

My thoughts exactly.

Really nice job by the interviewer, and even if his answers upset you, you should at least appreciate how open and thorough iNcontroL was with his answers. There are worse things than being too forthright.

EDIT: And I disagree 100% with his stance on TB/Lindsay, but I'm still glad he gave it.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
WCX
Profile Joined July 2011
74 Posts
July 15 2011 07:36 GMT
#159
On July 15 2011 16:16 nozh wrote:
guys guys guys hold on let me explain; incontrol does all this jetsetting around the world for sponsors and commercials and coaching For The Love Of The Game. he would do it for free if he had to. people like totalbiscuit... man... how shallow. creating content for and interest in the industry for profit... that is so totally "less awesome" than what he and other e-sports lovers like lindsey sporrer do.

please tell me more about how much you do for the community out of the kindness of your heart and not for money at all.


he's such a kind man, does everything out of the goodness of his heart.

just look at where the guy was a little over a year ago. fast forward to 5:50 where he talks about his job at the time.

+ Show Spoiler +

he was just some schmuck working at a Gamestop at the local mall






and look at where where he is now, flying all over the world doing commercials for sponsors and shit! and purely out of the kindness of his heart!!! totally not for monetary reasons, no sir!
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
July 15 2011 07:38 GMT
#160
On July 15 2011 16:11 Tehs Tehklz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 16:04 iNcontroL wrote:
oh my bad.. where does one get a brain btw?


Emerald City.


Just about to post this, you win.
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