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An NASL Retrospective With EG.iNcontroL - Page 7

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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
July 15 2011 06:12 GMT
#121
Damn good responses, nice interview.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
July 15 2011 06:13 GMT
#122
Oh btw, just a bit of TB trivia. TB has a law degree. Yeah, definitely in SC2 for the money.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
WCX
Profile Joined July 2011
74 Posts
July 15 2011 06:18 GMT
#123
On July 15 2011 12:05 ELA wrote:
I really don't understand his broadside against Totalbiscuit however.. Geoff has time and time again said that the 'trolling' between Totalbiscuit and himself was just evil rumors and people looking for drama.. Well, if you make a comment like: "I honestly take more offense at people coming from other sports just to make money in Starcraft II--someone like TotalBiscuit" you are basicly going for the throat of the man.. Previous statements become quite hollow..



This is pretty much the modus operandi of Incontrol. The man is filled with a lot of hate. He's been doing this kind of stuff for a very long time now.

The prime example is many months ago when he name-dropped SeleCT on a SOTG. When people got angry, he claimed that they were taking things too seriously, that he never meant to diss SeleCT, and that it was all just evil rumors made up by angry nerd flamers on the forums.

Annnnnnnnd then when asked about SeleCT in a MLG after-party hosted by DJWheat , Incontrol proceeds to simulate anal rape by forming a ring shape with one hand and shoving his other fist through it. In front of a 10,000+ live audience.

.....Right.


Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 15 2011 06:25 GMT
#124
lol i feel bad for incontroll, he sure didn't make many fans from this interview. imo his disdain for totalbiscuit is misdirected and they need to have a heart to heart with eachother to get the bad blood out of the way.^^ make love not war!!
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
thisisSSK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 06:28:48
July 15 2011 06:26 GMT
#125
Holy shit people. Holy shit. How can you seriously pick one thing from the entire interview and kill the guy for it? incontrol already said that he doesnt hate TB he just respects him LESS. Thats his opinion so why the fuck do you guys care? Too many people are making this a black and white issue: either incontrol hates or absolutely loves something. This is CLEARLY not the case but I have no clue why people keep rambling on about this TB comment. Its an opinon. I love incontrol because of his opinions and his passion. Yeah he got paid for nasl and coaching, but its not like getting paid = no passion and passion = not getting paid. Thats retarded. I hope people will stop bashing on other people for every grammar/spelling/esports mistake, because i bet you we can make fun of you for your opinons and mistakes.

P.S. Oh yeah and people take incontrol WAY too seriously most of the time. He likes to be funny, and almost always he apologizes or explains any inflamatory statement or joke he says but people never seem to listen to them...
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 15 2011 06:30 GMT
#126
Good interview but I don't agree with the "let's do some though questions part" because they ignored many of the most important flaws. NASL has fucked up so much over the entire season, First week was crap, week 2-5 was meaningless and onesided except for a rare amount of good games, VOD system is still crap, finals day one was a joke, downtime day 2-3 was still huge.

There are too many matches in the NASL to watch it all live, there are too many crap matches in the NASL to watch it live. Why the fuck is the VOD system so bad? All games in 1 video (spoil much?), and the games are uploaded way to late. Sometimes more than 2 days after they were played.
I had a good night of sleep.
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
July 15 2011 06:30 GMT
#127
On July 15 2011 15:25 Malgrif wrote:
lol i feel bad for incontroll, he sure didn't make many fans from this interview. imo his disdain for totalbiscuit is misdirected and they need to have a heart to heart with eachother to get the bad blood out of the way.^^ make love not war!!

Why he incessantly persists on making these personal jabs is beyond me.. What is he even trying to add to his his argument by throwing TB in there? It doesn't even make sense! And when responding about the criticism of "forum flamers", he essentially contradicts his very own argument by making a cheap jab at TB (whether intentional or not) later on in the interview.
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
July 15 2011 06:33 GMT
#128
#5 YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

http://kotaku.com/5820907/the-10-best-moments-in-pro gaming-history

NASL - from the basement to the big stage!

Best finals yet!
Support your esport!
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 06:43:58
July 15 2011 06:38 GMT
#129
I take offense to all pro gamers who came from non sc games like warcraft 3 or supreme commander. They're all in it for the money with no sc background!!

Also take offense to casters with no sc background like djwheat and jp. They're in it for the money too!!

Too many passionless sc guys to name who just jumped on the sc2 money train!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 06:41:08
July 15 2011 06:40 GMT
#130
On July 15 2011 13:10 iNcontroL wrote:
tb didn't move to sc2 because he has always had a passion for sc guys.. he did it to make money. Giving money back to the community is awesome.. but it isn't 100% selfless so please don't act like it is.

I was asked if I take offense to Lindsey being hired by an SC2 league.. I pointed out that I don't and I take MORE offense to people moving to the SC community purely to make money. If they do great things while doing that wonderful.. we all benefit. But I prefer those that were here from the beginning. I don't hate TB or anything like that at all.. I just find it less awesome is all.


dead wrong here.
just to undercut this argument at its root....

money is the root of all good... productive effort gives money its value
to "make" money is a noble pursuit in and of itself...
if you do not understand this you do not understand the nature of money or the basis of the free market system

Frank Pierce left electrical engineering to make games.. has made a pile of cash .. more than he ever could as an electrical engineer and his name is all over SC2.

its clear TotalBiscuit enjoys broadcasting in all its forms... simply for the social aspect of creating connections with the community regardless of the topic... the guy is a communicator right down to his DNA.

if you are a broadcaster or journalist by profession you can move from one area to another and bring your unique skill set to the table and thus contribute to the eSports community... to the special Olympics community or whatever event you choose.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
July 15 2011 06:43 GMT
#131
Standard EG. Standard Inc. Move along. Nothing new here.
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
July 15 2011 06:44 GMT
#132
NASL delivered on the hype with the grand finals!

And provided the community with the opportunity to meet Lindsey Sporrer, which is excellent.

Her HotS photoshop as Kerrigan is so fucking clever, it's fun to dissect its layers.

MOAR LINDSEY
Support your esport!
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
July 15 2011 06:48 GMT
#133
Wtf is incontrol thinking about? All incontrol has been talking about these last months is that we should never swear or be anything else than boring while being active in the sc2 esports scene because we need to make SC2 open for business, and then he wildly attacks totalbisquit for taking the opportunity to have his passion as his job?

I suppose incontrol does not get paid for the work he does in sc2?

I'm done with this guy, what a self-righteous fucking hypocrite.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
July 15 2011 06:51 GMT
#134
On July 15 2011 15:30 EnderCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 15:25 Malgrif wrote:
lol i feel bad for incontroll, he sure didn't make many fans from this interview. imo his disdain for totalbiscuit is misdirected and they need to have a heart to heart with eachother to get the bad blood out of the way.^^ make love not war!!

Why he incessantly persists on making these personal jabs is beyond me.. What is he even trying to add to his his argument by throwing TB in there? It doesn't even make sense! And when responding about the criticism of "forum flamers", he essentially contradicts his very own argument by making a cheap jab at TB (whether intentional or not) later on in the interview.


This is also my stance, and why I don't like him, especially when he tries to show his "figurehead of the community" side. I do think that he has done well, and I will respect him as a player after his MLG showing, but as a person I hesitate to.

But when someone is basically just being a jerk, making personal attacks, making claims about someones professionalism, or who they respect, when those things are pushed too far you risk becoming just some anonymous flamer on a forum.
– By Incontrol in the interview

The TB jab isn't the first I've heard from him. There was the jab at SeleCT, which a poster above me pointed out. Then there is his long-standing hate for desRow, which I don't understand. I think that he needs to get over his petty differences with others, but I can't make him do anything, but he should take his own advice and realize that just because he isn't typing something out that the advice becomes invalid.

On the topic of the interview itself, I think that the interview was OK. He answered some questions, tried to dodge on others and I think downplayed some of the severity of the problems by attributing it to random forum flamers, but I think the interviewer had some nice questions that he tried to get answered.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
July 15 2011 06:51 GMT
#135
On July 15 2011 15:48 Ghad wrote:
Wtf is incontrol thinking about? All incontrol has been talking about these last months is that we should never swear or be anything else than boring while being active in the sc2 esports scene because we need to make SC2 open for business, and then he wildly attacks totalbisquit for taking the opportunity to have his passion as his job?

I suppose incontrol does not get paid for the work he does in sc2?

I'm done with this guy, what a self-righteous fucking hypocrite.


Yeah those finals fucking kicked ass, I know. I agree, I'm happy inC worked diligently organizing this cluster fuck, it turned out amazing you're right!
Support your esport!
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
July 15 2011 06:55 GMT
#136
Sigh, I thought that InControl wanted to be more professional. That TotalBiscuit comment came out of nowhere, and just reeked personal enmity.
Phayt
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada346 Posts
July 15 2011 06:56 GMT
#137
Well

iNcontrol really wouldn't be iNcontrol if he wasn't talking himself into some trouble, right?

Commenting on TB was really dumb but the rest of the interview was totally on point, so I love you anyways. <3 Mr. Robinson
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 15 2011 07:01 GMT
#138
love you guys Don't worry! I will def say stuff in the future you guys will get all pissy about. It's kinda inevitable.. but the world keeps on moving forward and I learn each time to dial it back. Name dropping was bad. Point I made was fine. Lesson learned!
nozh
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada93 Posts
July 15 2011 07:02 GMT
#139
haha the point you made wasn't fine at all that's the whole point of why people are mad at you jesus christ get a brain

User was warned for this post
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 15 2011 07:04 GMT
#140
Commenting on TB was really dumb but the rest of the interview was totally on point, so I love you anyways. <3 Mr. Robinson


So you really feel that this:

The downtime is not irregular or unique to the NASL at all. There was air time during Homestory Cup III of players barbecuing, there’s MLG where I can go take a nap between my matches--that’s all just the usual run of things.


is point on? Either he is dodging like a ninja or he is really that self-absorbed that he thinks him being able to take naps somehow translates into down time for the spectators.
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