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Chodes
Canada212 Posts
On July 15 2011 13:03 fadestep wrote: You can't fake being this clinically terrible at PR while acting like your the one being wronged. QF to the Fu*king T | ||
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Yew
United States940 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On July 15 2011 16:45 yeint wrote: Well, calling Tyler one of the worst players in the NASL when he did better than Inc himself was kind of questionable as well. Tyler didn't do that well though... maybe you have issue with the word choice. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
 + Show Spoiler + a move toward having a female identity and presence that’s anything more than just a pretty face and that was an intelligent decisio To be fair, that's all she was. I'd love if it was something more, and maybe it will be in the future, but... Personally the whole lindsey part is very... odd. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On July 15 2011 17:26 Ownos wrote: Actually this is the first time I heard people had beef with the interviewer. Really? Does everyone working in SC2 has to have this BURNING HOT PASSION FOR SC2? It's like... no you can't clean my NASL toilets unless you're diamond league at the minimum haha. Wow a pretty face was hired to ask some questions anyone could ask. What's the big deal again? when the pretty face comments about the ZvG matchup, it becomes insulting to the community the fault has more to do with NASL's decision and subsequent lack of follow up to provide some basic training/introduction to SC2 for Lindsey though | ||
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edc
United States666 Posts
On July 15 2011 11:59 Kouda wrote: I don't get this, I dont watch TotalBiscuit, but I do remember that he hosted a tourny in which the ad revenue went back into the prize pool for the next tourney. Granted, he's popular with the WoW folks and has a YouTube following, but is there like any evidence to back this? or could someone elaborate for me? WTF? TotalBiscuit casting SC2 for money? He used to have a huge money problem and is probably still affected by it, yet he takes the time to cast SC2 even though he gets much more money with WoW and could probably find a job that pays more than what he most likely gets from SC2. I really, really like iNcontroL, but I don't think he should have said such a thing against TotalBiscuit. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On July 15 2011 13:44 bennyaus wrote: Coming from Incontrol, this is laughable.... This is a guy that coaches instead of practices as a pro, to make money. This is a guy that got paid to commentate and hype NASL (rather than do it for free like Day9/TB/others have done many tournaments). This is coming from a guy that largely makes his money off of the community rather than giving anything tangible back to it because he isn't even a good enough player to win anything significant and earn money in that regard. He gets paid for his sponsors exposure, so he goes and does talk shows instead of training because he isn't good enough to actually win stuff or place well. What a fucking joke. There was absolutely no requirement for you to say something like that in this interview, Geoff. Now you just seem like a massive douchebag, especially considering that you don't actually give anything tangible to this community for free like Day9, and countless others (Mr. Bitter, Artosis, etc.) Oh come one. I don't like Inc at all (in fact, he's insulted me on stream before) but this isn't really something to dock him for. For starters you do not know if Day9, Artosis, etc. actually cast for free. I suspect they don't. The same goes for Inc -- people need to make a living. Yeah, his calling out TB was stupid but your calling out him is pretty much equally dumb. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On July 15 2011 17:36 udgnim wrote: when the pretty face comments about the ZvG matchup, it becomes insulting to the community the fault has more to do with NASL's decision and subsequent lack of follow up to provide some basic training/introduction to SC2 for Lindsey though Aye, I mean she doesn't need to be diamond or anything to do interviews, but she most certainly does need to have some basics of the game down. I personally am always a bit scared when girls enter the fray in gaming enviroment, since the people handling the events always pigeonhole gamers as having the perspective "pretty girls >>>>>> everything". | ||
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On July 15 2011 17:46 hmunkey wrote: Oh come one. I don't like Inc at all (in fact, he's insulted me on stream before) but this isn't really something to dock him for. For starters you do not know if Day9, Artosis, etc. actually cast for free. I suspect they don't. The same goes for Inc -- people need to make a living. Yeah, his calling out TB was stupid but your calling out him is pretty much equally dumb. Whilst it was a post made out of anger, largely pretty poorly written and some of it wrong, what I meant by that was that Incontrol has no moral high ground over TB. He earns money for doing things to. If Day9 or Artosis or even Mr. Bitter said something, then maybe they have some moral high ground because they have all provided hours of content (real tangible community improving content, not just shit talking on some guys talk show) for free. For the record, those guys have done plenty of free casting for events, and I can't say the same about Incontrol either (I know TB was casting last years Assembly for free, amongst other things, I bet). | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On July 15 2011 17:54 bennyaus wrote: Whilst it was a post made out of anger, largely pretty poorly written and some of it wrong, what I meant by that was that Incontrol has no moral high ground over TB. He earns money for doing things to. If Day9 or Artosis or even Mr. Bitter said something, then maybe they have some moral high ground because they have all provided hours of content (real tangible community improving content, not just shit talking on some guys talk show) for free. For the record, those guys have done plenty of free casting for events, and I can't say the same about Incontrol either (I know TB was casting last years Assembly for free, amongst other things, I bet). Of of course. He's an idiot who has no idea when and how to watch what he says publicly. The same applies for TB too though. Either these community members need to stop posting on forums and giving interviews, or they need to sit down and learn about PR from someone who knows what they're talking about. For the record, I absolutely think TB is as involved in the scene as he is because of money. However, I also think Inc puts making money over improving as a player so he is not qualified in any way to talk down. | ||
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abelian
19 Posts
On July 15 2011 17:54 bennyaus wrote: Whilst it was a post made out of anger, largely pretty poorly written and some of it wrong, what I meant by that was that Incontrol has no moral high ground over TB. He earns money for doing things to. If Day9 or Artosis or even Mr. Bitter said something, then maybe they have some moral high ground because they have all provided hours of content (real tangible community improving content, not just shit talking on some guys talk show) for free. For the record, those guys have done plenty of free casting for events, and I can't say the same about Incontrol either (I know TB was casting last years Assembly for free, amongst other things, I bet). What about the shoutcraft invitational where TB put up 1500(?) of his own money | ||
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
On July 15 2011 11:59 Kouda wrote: I don't get this, I dont watch TotalBiscuit, but I do remember that he hosted a tourny in which the ad revenue went back into the prize pool for the next tourney. Granted, he's popular with the WoW folks and has a YouTube following, but is there like any evidence to back this? or could someone elaborate for me? I think the original comment is quite unfair on TotalBiscuit. I dont think he is "just" doing it for the money. Rather, he is passionate about pc games and people follow him for that. | ||
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Daniel C
Hong Kong1606 Posts
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bennyaus
Australia1833 Posts
On July 15 2011 17:58 abelian wrote: What about the shoutcraft invitational where TB put up 1500(?) of his own money I'm on your side bro. Incontrol is ridiculous for criticizing TB. | ||
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
On July 15 2011 17:59 bennyaus wrote: I'm on your side bro. Incontrol is ridiculous for criticizing TB. I just hope that TB doesn't feel the need to defend himself on this one. I don't think there is any question that Geoff shouldn't have made that comment (Geoff even mentioned it). There is no argument to be had. | ||
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Maliris
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
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vollpfosten
Germany11 Posts
sex sells interviews are a marketing tool Even if it wasn't their intention - both, InControl and TB profit from this interview, this Thread, your links and accusation Well done, keep it up InControll and TB, i enjoy both of your entertainments  | ||
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
And the comment about Lindsey is like saying she did/will do more for the community than TB | ||
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