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On July 15 2011 13:10 iNcontroL wrote:
tb didn't move to sc2 because he has always had a passion for sc guys.. he did it to make money. Giving money back to the community is awesome.. but it isn't 100% selfless so please don't act like it is.
You do realize that SC2 is by far TBs least popular content on his youtube-channel? He quit WoW two months ago, because his interest in the game completely waned and ceased creating any more videos about it. WoW-videos got about three times the views of his SC2-casts.
If he's only in it for the money as you say, then why does he do SC2 at all, when everything else he does generates more revenue? Why did he quit Wow, even though it was so popular?
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The dig on TotalBiscuit made my day, I love you Geoff. <3
EDIT: Actually, to the poster above me, TB makes 1.5K a month from his livestream. Youtube content != money. Advertising revenue = money.
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Good read, dunno about the TB and Lindsey part, but still
Gl hf InControl with MLG
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On July 15 2011 16:01 iNcontroL wrote:love you guys  Don't worry! I will def say stuff in the future you guys will get all pissy about. It's kinda inevitable.. but the world keeps on moving forward and I learn each time to dial it back. Name dropping was bad. Point I made was fine. Lesson learned!
<3 no biggie we all have foot in mouth disease once in awhile (see ban list)...more a fan that you;re man enough to admit when you're wrong. Keep up the good work!
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The Point he made was completely stupid, and now he is doing the victim thing again.
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On July 15 2011 18:14 enecateReAP wrote:
The dig on TotalBiscuit made my day, I love you Geoff. <3
EDIT: Actually, to the poster above me, TB makes 1.5K a month from his livestream. Youtube content != money. Advertising revenue = money.
100% of his stream revenue goes into his monthly invitational. As opposed to WoW, SC2 garners less views than his WoW videos. TB has mentioned multiple times how SC2 is not the smartest area to cover on his YouTube channel (monetary wise). However, TB wants to see the SC2 scene grow so he continues to post casts/tournaments. You're quite misinformed my friend.
He quit producing WoW videos because he has no interest in WoW, and he knows the content will only suffer from him not being genuinely interested in the game he is covering. On the other hand, TB has a huge interest in eSports/SC2 and chooses to cover that instead due to the fact that he is truly interested in SC2 and wants to see it grow
Any person who produces content in an area strictly based on financial gain will always choose the area that is most profitable. Is TB choosing the area that is most profitable? No. But TB's a money grubbing bastard right? Guess he's pretty dumb huh...
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On July 15 2011 18:14 enecateReAP wrote:
Actually, to the poster above me, TB makes 1.5K a month from his livestream. Youtube content != money. Advertising revenue = money.
Uh, he's a YouTube partner and makes a comfortable living off it.
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On July 15 2011 18:14 enecateReAP wrote:
Youtube content != money. Advertising revenue = money.
Looks like I spoke too soon...
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its really hard to be a fan of incontrol imo 
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I take it TB is yet to see this, as I'm sure he would defending his honour by now!
Good interview. Silly name dropping. As well as a horrible opinion on what seems to be a guy who gives a lot back to the community, but can't agree with everything.
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I have to say, Scoots is really good at his job. This interview is going to generate a shitton of traffic for the EG site by taking a stab by insulting one of the people in the business that has a retarded level of fans (TB).
Also, nice stab at Tyler. Stay classy, man.
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On July 15 2011 16:01 iNcontroL wrote:love you guys Don't worry! I will def say stuff in the future you guys will get all pissy about. It's kinda inevitable.. but the world keeps on moving forward and I learn each time to dial it back. Name dropping was bad. Point I made was fine. Lesson learned!
So you're not gonna apologize to TB? Get over yourself.
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to people angry about the tyler comment:
Read it again:
+ Show Spoiler +"People like Tyler from Team Liquid--he has the ability to win major championships, take down IdrA in showmatches--but apparently he also has the ability to be one of the worst players in the entire league."
If you heard incontrol say that in person, it'd be pretty obvious that its said half jokingly. Tyler and incontrol are extremely close (if you dont know that you're not keeping up with sotg) and incontrol has told tyler before that he believes that Tyler has the potential to be a champion, but has yet to put in the time. This comment isnt a stab. Its an encouragement for his friend by having higher expectations.
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sick of your hypocritical ass geoff. almost impossible to be a fan of yours. keep cheesing your way to 4th place buddy.
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Probably me being self absorbed.. sorry I am not answering everything everyone is asking!
No... you answered it is just your answer made no sense since you being able to nap between matches has nothing to do with delays for the spectators. So far in this thread you have dodged, deflected, and used straw-man arguments; any other debate tactics you want to use?
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No offense but i can't really understand the stuff Incontrol is talking about, just so much wrong.
I think the way TB is "handling" the sc2 community is pretty awesome, hosting events from add revenue + casting with MC etc.
haters gonna' hate..
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Yeah, I hate capitalism too.
Damn ppl trying to make money off something without having a passion for it!
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On July 15 2011 13:10 iNcontroL wrote:
tb didn't move to sc2 because he has always had a passion for sc guys.. he did it to make money. Giving money back to the community is awesome.. but it isn't 100% selfless so please don't act like it is.
I was asked if I take offense to Lindsey being hired by an SC2 league.. I pointed out that I don't and I take MORE offense to people moving to the SC community purely to make money. If they do great things while doing that wonderful.. we all benefit. But I prefer those that were here from the beginning. I don't hate TB or anything like that at all.. I just find it less awesome is all.
You realise he started doing Shoutcasts which were watch by <1000 people ever, and did a show (I Suck at Starcraft 2). This barely got him any viewers. This was back when HE WAS NOT EVEN A PARTNER WITH YOUTUBE. Then he started making some videos after the NDA was dropped on the Cataclysm Beta. The most popular WoW website (www.mmo-champion.com) linked to his videos which were really high in demand, yet extremely low in supply. He got a ton of viewers, he kept making his WoW Beta videos, and did some additional things, mostly some SC2 things, also other [indie] video games.
Eventually, Husky helped him get a partnership. MONTHS after his Youtube partnership, and his JTV was long after he started SC2.
He obviously also has a passion for the game, as he keeps going regardless of the high number of trolls and haters, and it's amazing what he has done. No other commentator has donated his own income in the value of 4 digits to the eSports community. How can you tell me he's in for the money?
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I think both EG and NASL need to take some of their revenue and use it to hire a PR coach, or something.
I am finding it increasingly difficult to like iNcontroL. I know iNcontroL will take that as a "I always hated iNcontroL and I just found another thing to bash him on", but that's not the case. Sometimes I think he's hilarious. But he does have an attitude problem.
Replacing him with Artosis on state of the game was probably for the better.
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On July 15 2011 20:56 Nimic wrote:
I think both EG and NASL need to take some of their revenue and use it to hire a PR coach, or something.
I am finding it increasingly difficult to like iNcontroL. I know iNcontroL will take that as a "I always hated iNcontroL and I just found another thing to bash him on", but that's not the case. Sometimes I think he's hilarious. But he does have an attitude problem.
Replacing him with Artosis on state of the game was probably for the better.
i think EG and NASL should shut their mascot up. he always brings bullshit when ever somethings about him.
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