from twitter:

OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee
Well Korean netizens believe they have a good idea of how good she is... so there's a lot of backlash which is unfortunate

"OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee
She won a female only tournament held in YMBC in Afreeca... her opponents were said to be in silver league. That's it I think "

RyanRushia

United States2748 Posts

July 14 2011 16:44 GMT

#505

Best of luck to new player, gogo SlayerS_Eve!

ThePurist

Canada686 Posts

July 14 2011 16:45 GMT

#506

On July 15 2011 01:03 starsucks wrote:
Why would more women be a win for eSports in general?
Better players are a win for eSports regardless of their gender.
The worst we could do would be to lower the skill level by promoting unskilled players because of non ingame relevant features and attitudes. Then we could just as well do mach fixing.

Men are overrepresented in eSports. There is an extreme disproportion in gender.

Wiki: "Affirmative action refers to policies that take factors including "race, color, religion, gender, or national origin"[1] into consideration in order to benefit an underrepresented group, usually as a means to counter the effects of a history of discrimination."

I agree better players is good regardless of gender, but your sort of functionalist way of thinking in your point "why would more women be a win for eSports in general?" is flawed

- Female pro-gamers like tossgirl are iconic and demonstrated skill in beating male progamers like yellow and such
- Even if female pro-gamers' skill may be lacking, I'm sure many would show up to watch them play for subjective personal reason XYZs. Or even on the streams. Higher viewership = good lol.
- Could induce or spark more women to enter eSports as pros... so on and so forth I could go on and on but you get the idea

All in all, to reiterate my point is that diversity (gender/class/ethnicity/religion or whatever) in eSports should be welcomed and I think Slayers obtaining her was a good move, if not vital for future developments for the team and eSports.

Matching fixing has nothing to do with anything here lol.

videogames

United States103 Posts

July 14 2011 16:46 GMT

#507

On July 15 2011 01:45 ThePurist wrote:
Men are overrepresented in eSports. There is an extreme disproportion in gender.

Are you kidding me? Dudes are just that much better at video games.

algue

France1436 Posts

July 14 2011 16:46 GMT

#508

On July 15 2011 01:24 novabossa wrote:
From what I've gathered by reading the korean comments, SlayerS_Eve is a diamond level player. This and the fact that prohouses tend to be all-male concerns me...would she get placed in the same house? o.O

Wtf ? She is a diamond level player ?
I wrote on slayers's website "only GM ( we will check it )" to join their team :O

( I don't understand Kor very well but I think this is how to become a slayers :
http://cafe.naver.com/slsclan )

SausageLinks

United States93 Posts

July 14 2011 16:48 GMT

#509

i think it will be interesting to see how well she does. and I hope she does well. cheers to SlayerS_Eve, do your best.

nextstep

Canada705 Posts

July 14 2011 16:49 GMT

#510

best of luck to her, go Eve!

Kurr

Canada2338 Posts

July 14 2011 16:50 GMT

#511

On July 15 2011 01:46 algue wrote:

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I certainly hope that she isn't. I will hold her to the same standards I hold other pro gamers. I don't expect her to be MC, but I expect her to play well at least.

Everything else doesn't matter to me. To the Slayers team, I hope it doesn't cause a rift and everyone is OK with it. As long as she doesn't require special treatment it should be fine.

Too bad for this girl, she will get a lot of hate even if she doesn't deserve it. If she got on Slayers being only in Diamond though, hard to pity her and a really stupid move by Slayers.

Enervate

United States1769 Posts

July 14 2011 16:51 GMT

#512

Very interesting. I hope she wasn't chosen on gender alone though, and I hope she can actually take some games.

Maghetti

United States2429 Posts

July 14 2011 16:52 GMT

#513

Honestly, even if she turns out to be a less good player I am still glad they picked her up, so long as she is dedicated and they push her to her limits because we need some good female sc2 players IMO. I am okay with training less good players and making them better. We will find out soon enough what she is capable of.

berserkboar

114 Posts

July 14 2011 16:53 GMT

#514

omg pretty

Gummy

United States2180 Posts

July 14 2011 16:56 GMT

#515

People keep ragging her on being selected for her "skills and looks." I mean Bisu was selected ONLY based on his looks. He turned out pretty decent after a few years did he not?

Jonas :)

United States511 Posts

July 14 2011 16:56 GMT

#516

Respect to BoxeR for hiring the first Woman progamer. Diamond league in korea is like top 50 GM in NA ^__^

Are there any girls in Grandmaster league on ANY server? I haven't heard of any

Awesomeness

Germany1361 Posts

July 14 2011 17:01 GMT

#517

On July 15 2011 01:56 Jonas wrote:
Respect to BoxeR for hiring the first Woman progamer. Diamond league in korea is like top 50 GM in NA ^__^

Are there any girls in Grandmaster league on ANY server? I haven't heard of any

There was Effka on Europe, who even won a craftcup and said she was a girl, but "she" disappeared like directly after that, so I guess it was a fake...

Waiting for the Slayers_Eve fanclub btw. :D

SafeAsCheese

United States4924 Posts

July 14 2011 17:01 GMT

#518

Stop spouting the gold/diamond league bullshit.

Nobody has confirmed what league she is in. If she is in slayers, you should probably assume grandmasters because it's a requirement to join their team.

If you think she got a free pass in because she looks good, then keep it to yourself until it is confirmed or not.

DrBoo

Canada1177 Posts

July 14 2011 17:02 GMT

#519

I would totally _______ her Spawning Pool.

User was warned for this post

ThePurist

Canada686 Posts

July 14 2011 17:03 GMT

#520

On July 15 2011 01:46 videogames wrote:

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Are you kidding me? Dudes are just that much better at video games.

Are you saying men are genetically superior to women in video games?
I question your statement.

"Video games" are a pastime that everybody can enjoy. However because it is socially linked as a 'male' activity and it puts a social-constraint on women in entering the video game subculture.
Like how men generally wouldn't play with dolls/Barbies or join some sort of knitting club. The activities and jobs we do today are gendered whether your choose to accept this or not. These constraints and flows are what allow and do not allow - advantage and skill to be gained.

I don't know jack shit about biology and the differences between male/female hand-eye coordination and its effects on video games. However, I do know that your comment was pretty grand without proper justification.