EPTSheth not returning to Korea from NASL - Page 17
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RPR_Tempest
Australia7798 Posts
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Falcor
Canada894 Posts
On July 11 2011 20:35 Haydin wrote: I agree that the flak that sheth will probably get for this is a little much. Until he says something himself, it looks like what happened was that he found out the hard way that the korean training regimen was not something he wanted to commit to. If sheth did, in any way, let down his team (which is total speculation at this point) that's between him and them. And so what if he didn't feel comfortable doing super long incredibly intense training? Sure, he probably won't ever be competing for the title of the world's top zerg. But if that's not what he wants to be, it's his call. He's still going to be a very strong player, and there's no question he'll still be an important member of the foreigner starcraft community. If people feel let down that sheth won't be one the foreigners that can challenge the MCs, DRGs, Nesteas, MMAs, and MVPs in major tournaments, remember that he was by no means the only member of FXO in korea. I mean, QXC was probably a big part of why DRG couldn't make it through the code A qualifiers! And can you guys imagine how scary thorzain and naniwa are going to be after f-united?! @TotalBiscut: It's great to see members of the SC2 community coming out to defend each other over this crap. I applaud you for that. But while Falco is being overly hostile, you do seem to not take personal criticism especially well. Why not just ignore this stuff? If you're defending someone else and someone attacks you personally on the internet, it just means they aren't actually refuting what you said. There will always be people who will find something not to like about you, so why waste the time and energy getting into arguments with them? It can't be worth it. How am i being overly hostile??? | ||
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EaryKing
Bulgaria158 Posts
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Dezire
Netherlands640 Posts
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Disquiet
Australia628 Posts
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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Linwelin
Ireland7554 Posts
On July 11 2011 20:35 Haydin wrote: I agree that the flak that sheth will probably get for this is a little much. Until he says something himself, it looks like what happened was that he found out the hard way that the korean training regimen was not something he wanted to commit to. Page 3 | ||
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caboose_
United States19 Posts
On July 11 2011 20:33 lahey wrote: i hate on uneducated dolts, i can't help myself It seems what when most people start a statement with, "I'm sorry, but, ..." that they aren't really sorry about what they are about to say. That being said: I'm sorry, but you sound like a moron. You write a bunch of statements about the most manner person in Starcraft 2 being weak, disrespectful, decidedly bad mannered towards his team that are dripping with hatred. Then, when someone sticks up for said person you fall back to the solid argument: "You're fat." Stay classy bro. With all the hate and judgement going on here I'm going to put in my two cents. Sheth is looking out for number one, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day if Sheth doesn't look out for himself no one will, and if his happiness is contingent upon being around his friends and family then I say good for him. Lahey, you sit here with your snarky comments and kindergarten insults, but I highly doubt that if given the choice of making yourself happy and disappointing the community a little bit versus being personally miserable while abating a select few here in TL that you would not choose yourself over everyone else. | ||
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Grend
1600 Posts
On July 11 2011 20:35 Haydin wrote: I agree that the flak that sheth will probably get for this is a little much. Until he says something himself, it looks like what happened was that he found out the hard way that the korean training regimen was not something he wanted to commit to. If sheth did, in any way, let down his team (which is total speculation at this point) that's between him and them. And so what if he didn't feel comfortable doing super long incredibly intense training? Sure, he probably won't ever be competing for the title of the world's top zerg. But if that's not what he wants to be, it's his call. He's still going to be a very strong player, and there's no question he'll still be an important member of the foreigner starcraft community. If people feel let down that sheth won't be one the foreigners that can challenge the MCs, DRGs, Nesteas, MMAs, and MVPs in major tournaments, remember that he was by no means the only member of FXO in korea. I mean, QXC was probably a big part of why DRG couldn't make it through the code A qualifiers! And can you guys imagine how scary thorzain and naniwa are going to be after f-united?! @TotalBiscut: It's great to see members of the SC2 community coming out to defend each other over this crap. I applaud you for that. But while Falco is being overly hostile, you do seem to not take personal criticism especially well. Why not just ignore this stuff? If you're defending someone else and someone attacks you personally on the internet, it just means they aren't actually refuting what you said. There will always be people who will find something not to like about you, so why waste the time and energy getting into arguments with them? It can't be worth it. Hi Haydin, Nice post but just to clarify: Sheth posted on page 3 I think. Just seemed like you did not notice based on your second paragraph. | ||
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phanto
Sweden708 Posts
But I'd say he's quite overrated. | ||
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Ganymede88
Australia4 Posts
Some people are commenting like Sheth should be willing to 'tough it out' or 'harden up', I suspect that Sheth is smart enough to realise that an unhappy life where he may play the BEST SC2 he could ever play is not as great a choice as a life where he's the best player he can be while still being happy and comfortable. Sheth - you're still a champ in my eyes  | ||
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
On July 11 2011 20:41 Falcor wrote: How am i being overly hostile??? lol nice always working on your community relations i see. Well there's an obvious bait that's rather condescending with the "lol", which is kind of ridiculous. Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either. He's defending a professional player who is known as one of the nicest guys in the community from flak he's getting out of nowhere. You are baiting a famous caster because you want to call him dumb on the internet. Yes, I'd say that's hostile. On July 11 2011 20:45 Grend wrote: Hi Haydin, Nice post but just to clarify: Sheth posted on page 3 I think. Just seemed like you did not notice based on your second paragraph. Oh wow, how did I miss that? Thanks! | ||
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Demonaz
United Kingdom1219 Posts
Its a personal decision and he can continue to grow as a player in USA or Korea, makes no difference. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On July 11 2011 20:48 Demonaz wrote: I can't believe people are actually slating Sheth for this. This forum gets worse every day. Its a personal decision and he can continue to grow as a player in USA or Korea, makes no difference. It's not an entirely personal decision considering he went there to play in a team league | ||
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On July 11 2011 20:48 Demonaz wrote: I can't believe people are actually slating Sheth for this. This forum gets worse every day. Its a personal decision and he can continue to grow as a player in USA or Korea, makes no difference. yeah, just look at big events this year. oh wait. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On July 11 2011 16:09 Sheth wrote: Hey there TL. I wanted to be the first one to explain this, but I guess Josh beat me to it. Last time for Code A I didn't explain everything to the community and problems occurred, so this time I will! (Mostly =D ) I have thoroughly enjoyed my time in KR in the GOM foreigner house playing in both Code A and GSTL. I have had a great time with GSL and all of the wonderful people in Kor. Besides my team I've had the experience to be able to hang out with Tastlesss, Artosis and Torch. There are others of course, but hanging out with those three was a great time. However there were things I was unaware of going into Korea. Several things that have kept me from staying for another Code A at this time and from even going back after NASL. First off I was hoping to have been able to learn Korean better, I bought Rosetta stone even, however in the GOM house there are no CD drives. Thus I couldn't do that and thus I was unable to go do things I had planned on. (I could have read a book on it, or went out of my way in my free time to do this, I just bring this up as something that was disapointing.) Secondly I was expecting to stay here for a month (through all of GSTL) and then go home. However it turned out that there were no flights available from the team for me go go back after GSTL. I don't know how this happened (something to do with buying flights in bulk), but either way I wouldn't have been able to go home after GSTL to see my family for a week before MLG. This was something I had greatly looked forward to while in Korea. Having to stay away for another 2 weeks or so might not seem a big deal, and it wouldn't be for a lot of people however it was for me. I miss my family and friends quite a lot. Thirdly just quite brutally honestly I'm not fit for staying with 10 other guys in a small area constantly for a month mixed in with random 12 hours flights back to America for things such as NASL and then MLG. Its just not something I enjoy at all and I would have put up with it were I able to at least visit home to recharge after GSTL. I realize if anyone is to blame here its me, for not being able to stay in the team house like I had said I would for a whole month. I'm very very sad to have left my team in Korea to finish GSTL without me. This is a dick move. I get it. However try and put yourself in my shoes, that's the only defense I can offer. I will miss my team and the training quite a bit. I can go into plenty of excuses, but the main point is I'm leaving the GOM foreigner house to go home where I can have some privacy, stream more and be all around more relaxed. Those who saw me at NASL can tell I was stressed and tired, hopefully being at home for a while will fix that. I will miss you in Korea team and if in the future I can find a way to live on my own in Korea and go to "work" at the GOM house for the day I'm sure I will try my best to do this. However for now I'm heading home to prepare for MLG in my own way. Hopefully you at TL the reader can respect this and if not I understand. I still have much love for FXO and ofc TL. <3 Sheth Good luck Sheth, will be fun to see you at MLG! Best of luck! | ||
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
On July 11 2011 20:49 syllogism wrote: It's not an entirely personal decision considering he went there to play in a team league You're right. It's between him and his team, and not the teamliquid forums. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On July 11 2011 20:35 Haydin wrote: I like that TB stands up against the demons of stupidity.@TotalBiscut: It's great to see members of the SC2 community coming out to defend each other over this crap. I applaud you for that. But while Falco is being overly hostile, you do seem to not take personal criticism especially well. Why not just ignore this stuff? Sheth did a lot so far and will continue to do so. But here are some guys, sitting in their chair, enjoy their Diamond rank 5, and demand total devotion to Korean practice standard from Steth. That is just not right. Sheth should be supported no matter what. The extremely insightful postings he made on the strategy forums already justify it. We should show nothing but respect for Sheth. All his actions, his streaming, all he does for the community proves Sheth's extreme devotion. He is not only a great player (both regarding skill and manners), he is doing so much for us. | ||
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
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