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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
July 11 2011 11:38 GMT
#321
Ignore lahley, he's just continuing the sad trend of most people under 100 posts being absolutely atrocious posters.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
July 11 2011 11:41 GMT
#322
On July 11 2011 20:35 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:52 Falcor wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:13 mdb wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 18:59 Falcor wrote:
lol nice always working on your community relations i see.


I really don't need to keep up relations with dumb people who don't think before they post and are so quick to board the hate-express against someone who has done nothing but good things for Starcraft 2.


Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either.


If blindly going after higher profile community members is what it takes to be thought of as intelligent by mdb then please forgive me if I don't show much concern for your opinion.

There are some downright hateful remarks in this thread and Sheth has done nothing to deserve them.


I wouldnt really call it blind hate tho its in direct response to behavor they dont agree with?


Would you prefer I call it "fucking stupid hate"? Blind seemed more diplomatic and indeed more accurate, since as always, these people know very little about the thing they're attacking.

Today is Witchhunt day it would seem when it comes to nice people in this community. Who's next, Sean Plott?


I agree that the flak that sheth will probably get for this is a little much. Until he says something himself, it looks like what happened was that he found out the hard way that the korean training regimen was not something he wanted to commit to. If sheth did, in any way, let down his team (which is total speculation at this point) that's between him and them. And so what if he didn't feel comfortable doing super long incredibly intense training? Sure, he probably won't ever be competing for the title of the world's top zerg. But if that's not what he wants to be, it's his call. He's still going to be a very strong player, and there's no question he'll still be an important member of the foreigner starcraft community.

If people feel let down that sheth won't be one the foreigners that can challenge the MCs, DRGs, Nesteas, MMAs, and MVPs in major tournaments, remember that he was by no means the only member of FXO in korea. I mean, QXC was probably a big part of why DRG couldn't make it through the code A qualifiers! And can you guys imagine how scary thorzain and naniwa are going to be after f-united?!

@TotalBiscut: It's great to see members of the SC2 community coming out to defend each other over this crap. I applaud you for that. But while Falco is being overly hostile, you do seem to not take personal criticism especially well. Why not just ignore this stuff? If you're defending someone else and someone attacks you personally on the internet, it just means they aren't actually refuting what you said.
There will always be people who will find something not to like about you, so why waste the time and energy getting into arguments with them? It can't be worth it.


How am i being overly hostile???
EaryKing
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:43:15
July 11 2011 11:42 GMT
#323
Is FXO going to fill up the team with new Koreans player?
"You shouldn't trust your feeling sometimes. Remember Emperor had a feeling that Luke Skywalker would turn to the darkside.
Dezire
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands640 Posts
July 11 2011 11:42 GMT
#324
To bad, you were already able to compete very well against them, some training there would make you huge id say
BoxeR, HuK, IdrA, Minigun, MVP <3
Disquiet
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia628 Posts
July 11 2011 11:43 GMT
#325
Thats disappointing to hear and it really sucks how hes not staying with his team. I hope he had a good reason.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
July 11 2011 11:44 GMT
#326
I <3 TB and Sheth.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
July 11 2011 11:44 GMT
#327
On July 11 2011 20:35 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:52 Falcor wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:13 mdb wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 18:59 Falcor wrote:
lol nice always working on your community relations i see.


I really don't need to keep up relations with dumb people who don't think before they post and are so quick to board the hate-express against someone who has done nothing but good things for Starcraft 2.


Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either.


If blindly going after higher profile community members is what it takes to be thought of as intelligent by mdb then please forgive me if I don't show much concern for your opinion.

There are some downright hateful remarks in this thread and Sheth has done nothing to deserve them.


I wouldnt really call it blind hate tho its in direct response to behavor they dont agree with?


Would you prefer I call it "fucking stupid hate"? Blind seemed more diplomatic and indeed more accurate, since as always, these people know very little about the thing they're attacking.

Today is Witchhunt day it would seem when it comes to nice people in this community. Who's next, Sean Plott?


I agree that the flak that sheth will probably get for this is a little much. Until he says something himself, it looks like what happened was that he found out the hard way that the korean training regimen was not something he wanted to commit to.


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Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
caboose_
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
July 11 2011 11:45 GMT
#328
On July 11 2011 20:33 lahey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:32 Linwelin wrote:
On July 11 2011 20:31 lahey wrote:
On July 11 2011 20:29 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 20:28 lahey wrote:
Well, then you better get on the treadmill because you have nothing going for you at the moment.


Proving my point about haters beyond a shadow of a doubt. Here endeth the lesson.


You seem to think calling people stupid does not classify YOURSELF as a hater. Double standards are ftw chubs


I guess hating on TB is something you do to look cool or something?


i hate on uneducated dolts, i can't help myself


It seems what when most people start a statement with, "I'm sorry, but, ..." that they aren't really sorry about what they are about to say. That being said:

I'm sorry, but you sound like a moron. You write a bunch of statements about the most manner person in Starcraft 2 being weak, disrespectful, decidedly bad mannered towards his team that are dripping with hatred. Then, when someone sticks up for said person you fall back to the solid argument: "You're fat." Stay classy bro.

With all the hate and judgement going on here I'm going to put in my two cents. Sheth is looking out for number one, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day if Sheth doesn't look out for himself no one will, and if his happiness is contingent upon being around his friends and family then I say good for him.

Lahey, you sit here with your snarky comments and kindergarten insults, but I highly doubt that if given the choice of making yourself happy and disappointing the community a little bit versus being personally miserable while abating a select few here in TL that you would not choose yourself over everyone else.
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
July 11 2011 11:45 GMT
#329
On July 11 2011 20:35 Haydin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:52 Falcor wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:13 mdb wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 18:59 Falcor wrote:
lol nice always working on your community relations i see.


I really don't need to keep up relations with dumb people who don't think before they post and are so quick to board the hate-express against someone who has done nothing but good things for Starcraft 2.


Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either.


If blindly going after higher profile community members is what it takes to be thought of as intelligent by mdb then please forgive me if I don't show much concern for your opinion.

There are some downright hateful remarks in this thread and Sheth has done nothing to deserve them.


I wouldnt really call it blind hate tho its in direct response to behavor they dont agree with?


Would you prefer I call it "fucking stupid hate"? Blind seemed more diplomatic and indeed more accurate, since as always, these people know very little about the thing they're attacking.

Today is Witchhunt day it would seem when it comes to nice people in this community. Who's next, Sean Plott?


I agree that the flak that sheth will probably get for this is a little much. Until he says something himself, it looks like what happened was that he found out the hard way that the korean training regimen was not something he wanted to commit to. If sheth did, in any way, let down his team (which is total speculation at this point) that's between him and them. And so what if he didn't feel comfortable doing super long incredibly intense training? Sure, he probably won't ever be competing for the title of the world's top zerg. But if that's not what he wants to be, it's his call. He's still going to be a very strong player, and there's no question he'll still be an important member of the foreigner starcraft community.

If people feel let down that sheth won't be one the foreigners that can challenge the MCs, DRGs, Nesteas, MMAs, and MVPs in major tournaments, remember that he was by no means the only member of FXO in korea. I mean, QXC was probably a big part of why DRG couldn't make it through the code A qualifiers! And can you guys imagine how scary thorzain and naniwa are going to be after f-united?!

@TotalBiscut: It's great to see members of the SC2 community coming out to defend each other over this crap. I applaud you for that. But while Falco is being overly hostile, you do seem to not take personal criticism especially well. Why not just ignore this stuff? If you're defending someone else and someone attacks you personally on the internet, it just means they aren't actually refuting what you said.
There will always be people who will find something not to like about you, so why waste the time and energy getting into arguments with them? It can't be worth it.


Hi Haydin,

Nice post but just to clarify: Sheth posted on page 3 I think. Just seemed like you did not notice based on your second paragraph.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
July 11 2011 11:46 GMT
#330
Sheth is a very friendly and likable guy.
But I'd say he's quite overrated.
Ganymede88
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia4 Posts
July 11 2011 11:47 GMT
#331
I consider myself a professional at my job - it doesn't mean I want to sacrifice my comfort to be the greatest at it.

Some people are commenting like Sheth should be willing to 'tough it out' or 'harden up', I suspect that Sheth is smart enough to realise that an unhappy life where he may play the BEST SC2 he could ever play is not as great a choice as a life where he's the best player he can be while still being happy and comfortable.

Sheth - you're still a champ in my eyes
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
July 11 2011 11:47 GMT
#332
this makes me sad panda
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:51:15
July 11 2011 11:48 GMT
#333
On July 11 2011 20:41 Falcor wrote:

How am i being overly hostile???


lol nice always working on your community relations i see.


Well there's an obvious bait that's rather condescending with the "lol", which is kind of ridiculous.

Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either.


He's defending a professional player who is known as one of the nicest guys in the community from flak he's getting out of nowhere. You are baiting a famous caster because you want to call him dumb on the internet. Yes, I'd say that's hostile.




On July 11 2011 20:45 Grend wrote:
Hi Haydin,

Nice post but just to clarify: Sheth posted on page 3 I think. Just seemed like you did not notice based on your second paragraph.


Oh wow, how did I miss that? Thanks!
aka ilovesharkpeople
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
July 11 2011 11:48 GMT
#334
I can't believe people are actually slating Sheth for this. This forum gets worse every day.

Its a personal decision and he can continue to grow as a player in USA or Korea, makes no difference.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 11 2011 11:49 GMT
#335
On July 11 2011 20:48 Demonaz wrote:
I can't believe people are actually slating Sheth for this. This forum gets worse every day.

Its a personal decision and he can continue to grow as a player in USA or Korea, makes no difference.

It's not an entirely personal decision considering he went there to play in a team league
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
July 11 2011 11:51 GMT
#336
On July 11 2011 20:48 Demonaz wrote:
I can't believe people are actually slating Sheth for this. This forum gets worse every day.

Its a personal decision and he can continue to grow as a player in USA or Korea, makes no difference.


yeah, just look at big events this year. oh wait.
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 11 2011 11:51 GMT
#337
On July 11 2011 16:09 Sheth wrote:
Hey there TL. I wanted to be the first one to explain this, but I guess Josh beat me to it.

Last time for Code A I didn't explain everything to the community and problems occurred, so this time I will! (Mostly =D )

I have thoroughly enjoyed my time in KR in the GOM foreigner house playing in both Code A and GSTL. I have had a great time with GSL and all of the wonderful people in Kor. Besides my team I've had the experience to be able to hang out with Tastlesss, Artosis and Torch. There are others of course, but hanging out with those three was a great time.

However there were things I was unaware of going into Korea. Several things that have kept me from staying for another Code A at this time and from even going back after NASL. First off I was hoping to have been able to learn Korean better, I bought Rosetta stone even, however in the GOM house there are no CD drives. Thus I couldn't do that and thus I was unable to go do things I had planned on. (I could have read a book on it, or went out of my way in my free time to do this, I just bring this up as something that was disapointing.)

Secondly I was expecting to stay here for a month (through all of GSTL) and then go home. However it turned out that there were no flights available from the team for me go go back after GSTL. I don't know how this happened (something to do with buying flights in bulk), but either way I wouldn't have been able to go home after GSTL to see my family for a week before MLG. This was something I had greatly looked forward to while in Korea. Having to stay away for another 2 weeks or so might not seem a big deal, and it wouldn't be for a lot of people however it was for me. I miss my family and friends quite a lot.

Thirdly just quite brutally honestly I'm not fit for staying with 10 other guys in a small area constantly for a month mixed in with random 12 hours flights back to America for things such as NASL and then MLG. Its just not something I enjoy at all and I would have put up with it were I able to at least visit home to recharge after GSTL.

I realize if anyone is to blame here its me, for not being able to stay in the team house like I had said I would for a whole month. I'm very very sad to have left my team in Korea to finish GSTL without me. This is a dick move. I get it. However try and put yourself in my shoes, that's the only defense I can offer. I will miss my team and the training quite a bit. I can go into plenty of excuses, but the main point is I'm leaving the GOM foreigner house to go home where I can have some privacy, stream more and be all around more relaxed. Those who saw me at NASL can tell I was stressed and tired, hopefully being at home for a while will fix that.

I will miss you in Korea team and if in the future I can find a way to live on my own in Korea and go to "work" at the GOM house for the day I'm sure I will try my best to do this. However for now I'm heading home to prepare for MLG in my own way. Hopefully you at TL the reader can respect this and if not I understand. I still have much love for FXO and ofc TL. <3 Sheth





Good luck Sheth, will be fun to see you at MLG! Best of luck!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
July 11 2011 11:53 GMT
#338
On July 11 2011 20:49 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 20:48 Demonaz wrote:
I can't believe people are actually slating Sheth for this. This forum gets worse every day.

Its a personal decision and he can continue to grow as a player in USA or Korea, makes no difference.

It's not an entirely personal decision considering he went there to play in a team league


You're right. It's between him and his team, and not the teamliquid forums.
aka ilovesharkpeople
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 11:58:24
July 11 2011 11:53 GMT
#339
On July 11 2011 20:35 Haydin wrote:
@TotalBiscut: It's great to see members of the SC2 community coming out to defend each other over this crap. I applaud you for that. But while Falco is being overly hostile, you do seem to not take personal criticism especially well. Why not just ignore this stuff?
I like that TB stands up against the demons of stupidity.

Sheth did a lot so far and will continue to do so. But here are some guys, sitting in their chair, enjoy their Diamond rank 5, and demand total devotion to Korean practice standard from Steth. That is just not right.

Sheth should be supported no matter what. The extremely insightful postings he made on the strategy forums already justify it. We should show nothing but respect for Sheth. All his actions, his streaming, all he does for the community proves Sheth's extreme devotion. He is not only a great player (both regarding skill and manners), he is doing so much for us.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
July 11 2011 11:54 GMT
#340
I wish it were possible for people to admire the pyramids without wishing for the return of the pharaohs.
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