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grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
July 11 2011 10:51 GMT
#241
I would not like to live in a house with half a dozen people - no matter if they are friends or not - and I can fully understand him. The amount of people on high horses using unfitting comparisions is really saddening me. You know people get ill from living/working in an environment that does not work out for them?
Deluxo
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands2 Posts
July 11 2011 10:51 GMT
#242
Good luck in the future Sheth, you made the right dissension.
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 10:53:07
July 11 2011 10:52 GMT
#243
On July 11 2011 19:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:13 mdb wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 18:59 Falcor wrote:
lol nice always working on your community relations i see.


I really don't need to keep up relations with dumb people who don't think before they post and are so quick to board the hate-express against someone who has done nothing but good things for Starcraft 2.


Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either.


If blindly going after higher profile community members is what it takes to be thought of as intelligent by mdb then please forgive me if I don't show much concern for your opinion.

There are some downright hateful remarks in this thread and Sheth has done nothing to deserve them.


I wouldnt really call it blind hate tho its in direct response to behavior they dont agree with?
Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
July 11 2011 10:52 GMT
#244
You should probably question wether or not you want to be a progamer then. Playerhouses are the future for the western countries aswell (if the popularity of SC2 doesn't crash and burn in a few months).
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 11 2011 10:53 GMT
#245
On July 11 2011 19:51 grs wrote:
I would not like to live in a house with half a dozen people - no matter if they are friends or not - and I can fully understand him. The amount of people on high horses using unfitting comparisions is really saddening me. You know people get ill from living/working in an environment that does not work out for them?


It's not like the living condition of a practice house is a secret. Would you volunteer to teach kids English in a third world country, then go there and be like, whoa... no running water? I didn't sign up for this!
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
July 11 2011 10:53 GMT
#246
On July 11 2011 19:52 Falcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:13 mdb wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 18:59 Falcor wrote:
lol nice always working on your community relations i see.


I really don't need to keep up relations with dumb people who don't think before they post and are so quick to board the hate-express against someone who has done nothing but good things for Starcraft 2.


Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either.


If blindly going after higher profile community members is what it takes to be thought of as intelligent by mdb then please forgive me if I don't show much concern for your opinion.

There are some downright hateful remarks in this thread and Sheth has done nothing to deserve them.


I wouldnt really call it blind hate tho its in direct response to behavor they dont agree with?


Would you prefer I call it "fucking stupid hate"? Blind seemed more diplomatic and indeed more accurate, since as always, these people know very little about the thing they're attacking.

Today is Witchhunt day it would seem when it comes to nice people in this community. Who's next, Sean Plott?
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
July 11 2011 10:54 GMT
#247
On July 11 2011 19:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:52 Falcor wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:13 mdb wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 18:59 Falcor wrote:
lol nice always working on your community relations i see.


I really don't need to keep up relations with dumb people who don't think before they post and are so quick to board the hate-express against someone who has done nothing but good things for Starcraft 2.


Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either.


If blindly going after higher profile community members is what it takes to be thought of as intelligent by mdb then please forgive me if I don't show much concern for your opinion.

There are some downright hateful remarks in this thread and Sheth has done nothing to deserve them.


I wouldnt really call it blind hate tho its in direct response to behavor they dont agree with?


Would you prefer I call it "fucking stupid hate"? Blind seemed more diplomatic and indeed more accurate, since as always, these people know very little about the thing they're attacking.

Today is Witchhunt day it would seem when it comes to nice people in this community. Who's next, Sean Plott?


This is the TL boards tho, its always witchhunt day
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
July 11 2011 10:55 GMT
#248
On July 11 2011 19:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:52 Falcor wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:13 mdb wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 18:59 Falcor wrote:
lol nice always working on your community relations i see.


I really don't need to keep up relations with dumb people who don't think before they post and are so quick to board the hate-express against someone who has done nothing but good things for Starcraft 2.


Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either.


If blindly going after higher profile community members is what it takes to be thought of as intelligent by mdb then please forgive me if I don't show much concern for your opinion.

There are some downright hateful remarks in this thread and Sheth has done nothing to deserve them.


I wouldnt really call it blind hate tho its in direct response to behavor they dont agree with?


Would you prefer I call it "fucking stupid hate"? Blind seemed more diplomatic and indeed more accurate, since as always, these people know very little about the thing they're attacking.

Today is Witchhunt day it would seem when it comes to nice people in this community. Who's next, Sean Plott?


I hear he didn't want to cast with tasteless because he disowned him as a brother, is this true TB? c'mon you're closer to him then most!...

Making a post on reddit right now.
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
July 11 2011 10:56 GMT
#249
Well, I consider Korean Training the best (and to this day, the only) way to become the best players on the scene, and I'm sure I'm not the only one on this very same page.

Just like some other "professions" it requires a big sacrifice to be made(family, friends, etc), in order to be pursued to the fullest.

The point how you define the profession of the progamer, people who still think it's some part time hobby (which it can be, don't get me wrong) are not willing to make such high sacrifices, other people want more, and want to give everything to become the absolute best, thus, they forsake what their life has been up until that moment.

It boils down to how one wants the game to influence his life. It's the same decision between "i want to do this forever" or "just for the time being, no worries".

Many jobs require people to decide on such important matters, if you think a bit about it.

nYaLa
Profile Joined January 2011
Uzbekistan295 Posts
July 11 2011 10:57 GMT
#250
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sheth never ever said he will stay in Korea when he got knocked out of Code A... I'm even certain he said he will only be there for couple of weeks. and I also believe he said he will move in when his whole team is going to Malaysia team house...
no
lahey
Profile Joined April 2011
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 10:58:13
July 11 2011 10:57 GMT
#251
progamers earn respect with hard work and determination, progamers ''should'' earn fans by hard work and determination, sheth should seriously consider just becoming a streamer like destiny if he can't handle being in a pro gaming house with 10 other people desperately trying to become the best gamers they can be
aule10
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark52 Posts
July 11 2011 10:57 GMT
#252
I think it is fine sheth decide for himself that training in the Korean isn't something for him and do we have any rights to stop him? no we don't and why should we? Some talk about homesick and who wouldn't be but if he don't think he wants to stay there then it is fine. Why should we tell him to stay. it can only damage he's game in the future and will do no good.
FlyingDJ
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany153 Posts
July 11 2011 10:58 GMT
#253
On July 11 2011 17:06 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 17:02 FXOpen wrote:
The area of korea sheth was living in, had minimal english. You had to get by with monitors showing prices, and hand signals.

If you lived in the centre of seoul, you would probably have no problem. But english is by no means common in Korea. At the same time, we have korean speakers on our team, so it wasn't an issue.

I was under the impression the gomhouse was located in seoul. Personally I've been in many cities around korea and the only one where I wouldn't expect to be able to get by with just English would be Gyeongju since like 80%+ of the population seems to be old people and it's really traditional.

Granted, you can't go into every single restaurant, even in the center of seoul, and expect them to speak English to you. However, being hungry in seoul and finding a restaurant where you'll have no problem ordering food without english? Should take 10 minutes, even in suburbs such as yongin.


Because ordering food is the only thing you want to do in a foreign country.

I know lots of Koreans and even the ones I met abroad who had spent a whole semester studying nothing but English I found it difficult to have a meaningful conversation with. At some point, you just want to discuss world events, or Lady Gaga outfits or whatever floats your boat. In a country like South Korea, that is often close to impossible if you do not speak Korean. So you're bound to be unhappy even if you're able to shop and order food.

DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46179 Posts
July 11 2011 10:58 GMT
#254
Aww Sad to hear.

Regardless, I'll still support Sheth with any path that he chooses :-) MannerZerg fighting!! ^^
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 11 2011 10:58 GMT
#255
On July 11 2011 19:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:52 Falcor wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:13 mdb wrote:
On July 11 2011 19:06 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On July 11 2011 18:59 Falcor wrote:
lol nice always working on your community relations i see.


I really don't need to keep up relations with dumb people who don't think before they post and are so quick to board the hate-express against someone who has done nothing but good things for Starcraft 2.


Who are you to call people dumb? Honestly, your replies dont leave the impression that you are super intelligent either.


If blindly going after higher profile community members is what it takes to be thought of as intelligent by mdb then please forgive me if I don't show much concern for your opinion.

There are some downright hateful remarks in this thread and Sheth has done nothing to deserve them.


I wouldnt really call it blind hate tho its in direct response to behavor they dont agree with?


Would you prefer I call it "fucking stupid hate"? Blind seemed more diplomatic and indeed more accurate, since as always, these people know very little about the thing they're attacking.

Today is Witchhunt day it would seem when it comes to nice people in this community. Who's next, Sean Plott?


You're grossly exaggerating the 'hate' in this thread. So should all 'high profile community members' be exempt from criticism of any kind? I skimmed through the thread looking for the hateful, malicious posts you speak of, and found nothing.
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
July 11 2011 10:59 GMT
#256
On July 11 2011 19:53 Ocedic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 19:51 grs wrote:
I would not like to live in a house with half a dozen people - no matter if they are friends or not - and I can fully understand him. The amount of people on high horses using unfitting comparisions is really saddening me. You know people get ill from living/working in an environment that does not work out for them?


It's not like the living condition of a practice house is a secret. Would you volunteer to teach kids English in a third world country, then go there and be like, whoa... no running water? I didn't sign up for this!
Can you imagine that things work out different than you thought they would? What if I take your example with all the best intentions and after I have been there see, that I simply can't bear it? Don't you think it would hurt me enough already that I would have to give up without keyboard heroes jumping on me?
Biane
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia645 Posts
July 11 2011 11:00 GMT
#257
On July 11 2011 19:52 Coolwhip wrote:
You should probably question wether or not you want to be a progamer then. Playerhouses are the future for the western countries aswell (if the popularity of SC2 doesn't crash and burn in a few months).


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=217662 - Fxo Malaysia House

vs

- GOM House

One's like a mansion, the other an apartment
MrProb
Profile Joined January 2011
Thailand794 Posts
July 11 2011 11:00 GMT
#258
I dont know why was it hard to stay in Korea, you get to do what you love to do, gets to know&actually meet real korean pros, playing broadcast games etc. much much more benefits that you should have take advantage off.Seriously, its like a once in a lifetime opportunity for ppl who considered themselves a gamer, just like you love Basketball and you get to play in NBA, you tried for a few weeks then said no...

I, being asian myself, have had a chance to be in a monk hood for a while.I had to shaved my head, always stay in monk robes, only eat 2 meals a day (morning&lunch after that you can only drink water), have to wake up as early as 4 or 5a.m. everyday, you cant wear underwear, u cant touch any woman, you have to pray a lot during the day, you cant wear any shoes nor sandals, you occasionally go into the jungle to do stuff related to Bhuddhist(year still no shoes) and many many other things that i dont wanna keep going on but my point is : i most likely considered myself Atheist BUT i still did it just for the sake of my mom eventho i never thought i'd ever do it in my life, yet, i tough'd it out w/o complainin much.

I always enjoyed watching Sheth plays.IMO, he has potentials to be one of the best foreigner Zerg or even one of the best zerg in the world if he gets to stay in Korea like Idra.

But hey, people are different if he thinks its best for him then its his choice.
rave[wcr] wrote: wtf how can erik understand kelly, its like han solo and chewabacca overthere.
FlyingDJ
Profile Joined April 2008
Germany153 Posts
July 11 2011 11:00 GMT
#259
On July 11 2011 19:56 PlosionCornu wrote:
Well, I consider Korean Training the best (and to this day, the only) way to become the best players on the scene, and I'm sure I'm not the only one on this very same page.

Just like some other "professions" it requires a big sacrifice to be made(family, friends, etc), in order to be pursued to the fullest.

The point how you define the profession of the progamer, people who still think it's some part time hobby (which it can be, don't get me wrong) are not willing to make such high sacrifices, other people want more, and want to give everything to become the absolute best, thus, they forsake what their life has been up until that moment.

It boils down to how one wants the game to influence his life. It's the same decision between "i want to do this forever" or "just for the time being, no worries".

Many jobs require people to decide on such important matters, if you think a bit about it.



Korean training is effective because they put in unrivalled hours. I am sceptical if it is efficient though, so "best" is not an attribute I'd give it easily. If you say you can only succeed like the Koreans do when you ditch your family and private life to a large extent, something is wrong.
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
July 11 2011 11:00 GMT
#260
On July 11 2011 19:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Today is Witchhunt day it would seem when it comes to nice people in this community. Who's next, Sean Plott?


nobody is attacking him as a person (he's still one of the nicest guys out there), rather as a professional. even he wrote (page 3) that what he did was a dick move. why are you so angry?

p.s. you remind me of InControl before NASL, you should reallly pay more attention to your community interaction being a high profile caster. it's a big audience out there, forum flaming days should be reserved for smurf TL accounts...
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
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