EPTBlizzard warns HuK/TLO for account sharing - Page 19
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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algorithm0r
Canada486 Posts
Account sharing is effectively harmless and should not be a ban worthy offence. If a single mother has two young sons and one computer she is expected to buy them BOTH a copy of SC2 so they can comply to overly draconian ToS? As it is right now with 2 accounts those two young sons already have to share one laddering account and probably suffer from it. Account sharing in this sense has been going on since the dawn of multiplayer games and was no problem for WC3, SC:BW and the likes. Blizzard already had it so only one account linked to a single copy of the game could be online at a time, thus allowing a couple people in the same household to share a copy without having the luxury of playing at the same time. It is somewhat sickening that Blizzard would try to enforce this on a couple of pros that do so much to boost Blizzard sales through their popularization of the game in the eSports scene. Further, given that TLO is effectively handicapped and cannot play his account right now he has full rights to dispose of his account however he likes, regardless of the ridiculous state of ToS/EULA law at the moment. Doesn't Blizzard know that this kind of enforcement only emboldens the hacker community to get around their copy blocking and finally get a fully functional pirate server up and running? | ||
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Hikari
1914 Posts
However, stupid rules are sometimes meant to be broken. > Any chance it may be a prank call? I can see why Blizzard wants to stop this: because if people under the public eyes are "promoting" account sharing, a lot more others may follow. However, we cannot blame TLO and HuK, there are fundamental issues which lies beneath the problem: Region lock - else Huk wouldnt need to buy the game 3 times: once for NA, once for Kr, now again for Eu? Also even if HuK purchased yet another account, he will have to work his way up the ladder again before he can face worthy opponents. Lets say if he DCs/loses to a proxy gate and get placed in plat, who knows how long it will take HuK to start playing GMs? Lack of Lan. These topics have been discussed to death. There are many other cases of "account sharing" which blizzard allow slip under their watchful eyes: notice how often tournament casters share the same account? (NASL/Gom) Even without ladder games played it is still account sharing, no? | ||
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Quetz
United Kingdom28 Posts
So they don't want account sharing shown on stream, if this is really the way they want to go then they need to be consistent with their policing. Sharing has gone on between players at tournaments for quite a while (e.g. Sen plays on Softballs a/c as one example) on stream and at major events (MLG etc). Its a clear own goal by their German Community/Esports Manager over something really trivial in the grand scheme of things. | ||
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MichaelJLowell
United States610 Posts
On June 25 2011 03:45 decemberTV wrote: Yes, Luckily over here in continental europe we live in the free world and we don't have a suppresive government. (See Net Neutrality in The Netherlands). Oh, believe me, I agree with you. I'm not arguing "The laws of the United States are the only ones that count." And morally, I'm opposed to the legality of the situation. Sadly, the law is pretty open-and-shut here in the States until Alito or Roberts or Thomas goes belly up and the 5-4 corporate split in our Supreme Court goes bye-bye. And even then, it's no guarantee. On June 25 2011 03:45 ThaTiger wrote: Then it's good that Huk did this in Europe, on an Europe account ^_^ Oh, well, yeah. I'm not very familiar how the European Union deals with these things, but I know EULAs are considered a joke and a laughingstock. You guys have that much right. | ||
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Razith
Canada431 Posts
Edit: It was just a warning guys, get over it. Its not like they actually got banned. Blizz just wants to keep throwing their weight around. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
The ironic thing is that TLO is the potential loser here. If his MMR gets too high because of HuK, he won't be able to find games either. I suppose it decays over time and other people can catch up, so as he's on hiatus it probably won't matter. I don't have anything against HuK, him not being able to practice due to MMR is just silly. And it's definitely weird they would warn him, but I can understand them wanting to keep the integrity of ladder as it's used as basis for invites to some tournaments. Just because HuK and TLO are honest doesn't mean other people won't do the same thing dishonestly. | ||
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steamrice
435 Posts
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splinter9
Canada172 Posts
On June 25 2011 03:41 kawaiiryuko wrote: There has been federal case law (see the Lori Drew case) that state that a violation of a ToS amounts to unauthorized use of a service, which is a violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (which criminalizes any unauthorized use or access of a computer service - or basically anything with a microchip). EDIT TO ADD: I'm not saying that Blizzard is right - I'm just sayin', legally speaking, ToS /may/ have the force of law if the DoJ wants it to. im not sure if your fully aware but there are countries outside of the USA that even write there own laws . They also have computers and can play starcraft. On further thought neither of these players are even american, so im not sure how much of what you said applies here. | ||
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Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
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Cow
Canada1104 Posts
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
On June 25 2011 03:49 Razith wrote: HuK's rating is too high that he has to break the agreements just to play the game? Fuck that's badass. This! Lol but seriously this is just bad on Blizzards part that he had no other option, other than buying ANOTHER acct. | ||
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zawk9
United States427 Posts
On June 25 2011 03:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'm pretty sure naivety =/= acceptance of legal contracts. I'm pretty sure it's more of an acknowledgement of agreement. But sure, if we're just arguing semantics now... Or you won't ever get a job if you think those things are for sissies who can't *stick it to the man*. Either way, I'm done. Enjoy your day, guys  Labeling the other side as a bunch of lazy hippies because they have posted facts that don't agree with your view of the world doesn't really help your case. In fact it makes you look like something of a hack. Just for the record: While its great that you want to defend your favorite company and everything they can defend themselves just fine. I really doubt any corporation as large as blizzard is going to be damaged by angry posts on a forum with overwhelmingly negative opinions of them already. Particularly on a forum where people make these angry posts and proceed to play their favorite blizzard game ten minutes after posting how angry they are at blizzard. I hope that you can learn to tone it down and lessen the hyperbole in your posts. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
It's like they were jealous of all the pros having fun and just wanted to ruin some of the fun. It isn't necessary but they still felt the need to take the time out of their day to warn them. Lmfao, what a joke. | ||
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Greggor
Sweden119 Posts
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splinter9
Canada172 Posts
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pig-dude
United States170 Posts
On June 25 2011 03:40 MichaelJLowell wrote: Oh, people should have seen this coming. You don't begin tethering purchases into a single account unless you plan on doing that. The only reason you haven't heard more about it is that Valve only bans people on Steam for obvious violations, and when they make mistakes, they kiss and make up and offer free games and apologize and beg until everybody is over it. You're right, I was just being optimistic when I bought the game, because of how much I enjoyed BW. It's not like we all haven't wasted money on video games in our lives, it just bums me out that the successor to such a great game would turn out to be this disappointing. I really expected Blizzard to give their all to make the ladder a great experience, given the inherent responsibility in not allowing other options. I thought that bnet would be packed with cool features, great maps, and just generally be an excellent gaming environment. It's a damn shame that they're treating this as a smash-and-grab, because this is probably the last Blizzard product I will purchase. Unless there are drastic changes, I see no reason to buy the expansions or SC3 some day, let alone D3 or WC4. | ||
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Drteeth
Great Britain415 Posts
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Mahavishnu
Canada396 Posts
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