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Fruitdealer and Trickster leaving TSL. - Page 20

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leakingpear
Profile Joined March 2006
United Kingdom302 Posts
June 25 2011 18:36 GMT
#381
On June 26 2011 01:25 babylon wrote:
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On June 26 2011 01:14 Talin wrote:
On June 26 2011 00:57 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On June 25 2011 23:44 Termit wrote:
On June 25 2011 23:07 unnar wrote:
I really just hope those two disappear i dont like players who cant be botherd to practice

Yeah I'm feeling the same. I hope that they won't join a good "foreign" team just because they were good last year in the early stages of GSL. But on the other hand, I would love to see them attend tournamentss here and not take practice serious and then get destroyed at the events.


Funny thing is they'd probably still clean house at LAN events without lag, lol. Don't wanna hear it, sure, but it's plain fact.


How is it plain fact?

Moon cleaned house at DreamHack pretty damn well and though I like Moon very much, I wouldn't say that he's better than these two.



You and the other guy don't seem to have a clue what facts are so you should probably refrain from using or commenting on the use of the word.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
June 25 2011 18:38 GMT
#382
On June 25 2011 17:47 Talin wrote:
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On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote:
I expect FD and Tester will go compete in more international tournaments for easy money and good for them.


I can't imagine them winning much of that "easy money" either without improving a lot first.


Even at they're level they're far far above the average foreigner, and equal or a little below the top foreigners. They'd still make easy money.
The Notorious Winkles
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
June 25 2011 18:48 GMT
#383
On June 26 2011 01:30 .Madness wrote:
TSL is dead now


As a TSL fan who started following the team because of these two guys, I was bummed out at first but now I'm optimistic. As long as their and Rain's departure doesn't have something to do with behind the scene issues I think this will be benefit TSL in the long run. I think we all remember Cool's infamous interview where he said he didn't practice as much because he was always snowboarding or partying. Hopefully the team is adopting a more rigorous practice regiment and that's why they left.
Team SCV Life #1
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
June 25 2011 18:51 GMT
#384
On June 26 2011 03:36 leakingpear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 01:25 babylon wrote:
On June 26 2011 01:14 Talin wrote:
On June 26 2011 00:57 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On June 25 2011 23:44 Termit wrote:
On June 25 2011 23:07 unnar wrote:
I really just hope those two disappear i dont like players who cant be botherd to practice

Yeah I'm feeling the same. I hope that they won't join a good "foreign" team just because they were good last year in the early stages of GSL. But on the other hand, I would love to see them attend tournamentss here and not take practice serious and then get destroyed at the events.


Funny thing is they'd probably still clean house at LAN events without lag, lol. Don't wanna hear it, sure, but it's plain fact.


How is it plain fact?

Moon cleaned house at DreamHack pretty damn well and though I like Moon very much, I wouldn't say that he's better than these two.



You and the other guy don't seem to have a clue what facts are so you should probably refrain from using or commenting on the use of the word.



Mmm and you clearly don't seem to have a clue what sardonicism is so you should probably refrain from responding to it or thinking about the use of the device. Sorry it went over your head, but the intent was to counter a ridiculous statement with an equally - subtle - ridiculous statement:

-FD and Trickster, albeit with less practice, are very talented players. Moreover, they have a wealth of experience that does not simply fade to black after a given amount of relative inactivity.
-Outside of Korea, they'd still be able to easily perform well in many events. Sure, perhaps not at the top of MLG/DH, but many events nonetheless. FD at his worst, given his mechanics and replays, is still objectively better than many, many, many more casual NA tourny players.
-The snide inclusion of "fact" was a sardonic poke at the the inference that it was a fact that FD/Trickster would be destroyed in the foreign/NA scene.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 25 2011 20:31 GMT
#385
Two talented players still up for grabs, really curious which team will be able to get them. They haven't been the most consistent lately but I believe they would still post some really great results at the tournaments they are wanting to attend. Liquid'Fruit would be cool.
Faraday5001
Profile Joined May 2011
England51 Posts
June 25 2011 21:10 GMT
#386
with the whole "foreigners vs koreans" and international scene in vougue atm, this would be awsome if a non-korean based team picked them up
if rain can join fanatic, then having FD and trickster in an EG, liquid, mouse etc would be pretty damn impressive and exciting to follow
May the mass times acceleration be with you
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
June 25 2011 21:14 GMT
#387
On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote:
Boxer = BW bonjwa, legendary gamer, practices more than his much younger teammates.
Fruitdealer = BW player one of estro's ace player, average pro gamer, practices little.
Tester = BW b-teamer, repeated osl msl qualifer, practices little.
Nada = BW bonjwa, legendary gamer, practices alot.


There we go that's a bit better
The road isn't always straight.
ItsMartyz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands17 Posts
June 25 2011 21:29 GMT
#388
too bad.. but im sure such players can find an other team easily
What would you ask of us?
ItsMartyz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands17 Posts
June 25 2011 21:33 GMT
#389
too bad.. but im sure such players can find an other team easily
What would you ask of us?
wxwx
Profile Joined May 2010
527 Posts
June 25 2011 21:35 GMT
#390
On June 26 2011 05:31 Irave wrote:
Two talented players still up for grabs, really curious which team will be able to get them. They haven't been the most consistent lately but I believe they would still post some really great results at the tournaments they are wanting to attend. Liquid'Fruit would be cool.


Wouldn't that be Juice? xD
pookadin
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia422 Posts
June 25 2011 23:40 GMT
#391
I really want an update on this badly
*JYP* #1 fan! ♥♥ twitter~ @Pookadin
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
June 26 2011 00:04 GMT
#392
On June 26 2011 01:30 .Madness wrote:
TSL is dead now


TSL players are top4 in the NASL qualifiers.
Veritassong
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada393 Posts
June 26 2011 00:10 GMT
#393
FD joining chinese team,i called it HERE. (check sc2rank.com) CN server
人族英巴
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
June 26 2011 01:02 GMT
#394
On June 26 2011 09:10 Veritassong wrote:
FD joining chinese team,i called it HERE. (check sc2rank.com) CN server

No way of telling whether that's really him (but rather unlikely since he always used the Korean characters for his name and not the Romanji translation...).

Regardless, there's 25 different accounts for "Fruitdealer" on sc2ranks - it's not reliable.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 01:19:47
June 26 2011 01:18 GMT
#395
On June 26 2011 03:38 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 17:47 Talin wrote:
On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote:
I expect FD and Tester will go compete in more international tournaments for easy money and good for them.


I can't imagine them winning much of that "easy money" either without improving a lot first.


Even at they're level they're far far above the average foreigner, and equal or a little below the top foreigners. They'd still make easy money.


Not nearly enough to justify the salary they gave up though.

I don't really know what you mean by "average" foreigner - can you name one? Right now I wouldn't be so quick to bet on them against Nerchio or Happy in online tournaments for example.

In their current shape (and without team house training), they're nowhere near equal to the top foreigners, and then there's also a lot of actually good Koreans who play in western tournaments regularly and will stand in their way to "easy money".

Easy money is just an illusion. Money comes to players who work hard enough, and only them, and it's never easy. Not even MC gets it that easy (or enough to rely completely on the foreign scene).
thethingexe
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia28 Posts
June 26 2011 01:51 GMT
#396
I'm surprised no ones talks about JYP/Smart from TSL, he is probably one of their best players on the team with alive.

He beat MKP, Leenock 2:0 in (Wiki)LG Cinema 3D Special League.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 26 2011 01:52 GMT
#397
On June 26 2011 10:18 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:38 rysecake wrote:
On June 25 2011 17:47 Talin wrote:
On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote:
I expect FD and Tester will go compete in more international tournaments for easy money and good for them.


I can't imagine them winning much of that "easy money" either without improving a lot first.


Even at they're level they're far far above the average foreigner, and equal or a little below the top foreigners. They'd still make easy money.


Not nearly enough to justify the salary they gave up though.

I don't really know what you mean by "average" foreigner - can you name one? Right now I wouldn't be so quick to bet on them against Nerchio or Happy in online tournaments for example.

In their current shape (and without team house training), they're nowhere near equal to the top foreigners, and then there's also a lot of actually good Koreans who play in western tournaments regularly and will stand in their way to "easy money".

Easy money is just an illusion. Money comes to players who work hard enough, and only them, and it's never easy. Not even MC gets it that easy (or enough to rely completely on the foreign scene).


Does anyone know how much money they were making, really?

That's a geniune question, I have no idea.


FruitGG
Profile Joined August 2010
United States73 Posts
June 26 2011 02:02 GMT
#398
Put Fruitdealer,Losira, and Nestea in the same house please?
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
June 26 2011 02:17 GMT
#399
On June 26 2011 06:14 rewired wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote:
Boxer = BW bonjwa, legendary gamer, practices more than his much younger teammates.
Fruitdealer = BW player one of estro's ace player, average pro gamer, practices little.
Tester = BW b-teamer, repeated osl msl qualifer, practices little.
Nada = BW bonjwa, legendary gamer, practices alot.


There we go that's a bit better


tester was a-team and played quite a few games compared to many of his estro brethren. His win percentage was pretty low but he along with Upmagic were, at a time, the only regular on the estro roster. Fruitdealer wasn't the estro ace either. He may have been pretty good in practice (don't know where he stood) but he didn't come out very much. The "practice bonjwa" of estro was magma.
MifuneKinski
Profile Joined April 2011
United States42 Posts
June 26 2011 02:32 GMT
#400
On June 26 2011 03:48 last light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 01:30 .Madness wrote:
TSL is dead now


As a TSL fan who started following the team because of these two guys, I was bummed out at first but now I'm optimistic. As long as their and Rain's departure doesn't have something to do with behind the scene issues I think this will be benefit TSL in the long run. I think we all remember Cool's infamous interview where he said he didn't practice as much because he was always snowboarding or partying. Hopefully the team is adopting a more rigorous practice regiment and that's why they left.



Haha, Fruitdealer. Such a baller. You don't happen to have that interview?
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