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On June 26 2011 01:25 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 01:14 Talin wrote:On June 26 2011 00:57 FallDownMarigold wrote:On June 25 2011 23:44 Termit wrote:On June 25 2011 23:07 unnar wrote: I really just hope those two disappear i dont like players who cant be botherd to practice Yeah I'm feeling the same. I hope that they won't join a good "foreign" team just because they were good last year in the early stages of GSL. But on the other hand, I would love to see them attend tournamentss here and not take practice serious and then get destroyed at the events. Funny thing is they'd probably still clean house at LAN events without lag, lol. Don't wanna hear it, sure, but it's plain fact. How is it plain fact? Moon cleaned house at DreamHack pretty damn well and though I like Moon very much, I wouldn't say that he's better than these two.
You and the other guy don't seem to have a clue what facts are so you should probably refrain from using or commenting on the use of the word.
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On June 25 2011 17:47 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote: I expect FD and Tester will go compete in more international tournaments for easy money and good for them. I can't imagine them winning much of that "easy money" either without improving a lot first.
Even at they're level they're far far above the average foreigner, and equal or a little below the top foreigners. They'd still make easy money.
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On June 26 2011 01:30 .Madness wrote: TSL is dead now
As a TSL fan who started following the team because of these two guys, I was bummed out at first but now I'm optimistic. As long as their and Rain's departure doesn't have something to do with behind the scene issues I think this will be benefit TSL in the long run. I think we all remember Cool's infamous interview where he said he didn't practice as much because he was always snowboarding or partying. Hopefully the team is adopting a more rigorous practice regiment and that's why they left.
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On June 26 2011 03:36 leakingpear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 01:25 babylon wrote:On June 26 2011 01:14 Talin wrote:On June 26 2011 00:57 FallDownMarigold wrote:On June 25 2011 23:44 Termit wrote:On June 25 2011 23:07 unnar wrote: I really just hope those two disappear i dont like players who cant be botherd to practice Yeah I'm feeling the same. I hope that they won't join a good "foreign" team just because they were good last year in the early stages of GSL. But on the other hand, I would love to see them attend tournamentss here and not take practice serious and then get destroyed at the events. Funny thing is they'd probably still clean house at LAN events without lag, lol. Don't wanna hear it, sure, but it's plain fact. How is it plain fact? Moon cleaned house at DreamHack pretty damn well and though I like Moon very much, I wouldn't say that he's better than these two. You and the other guy don't seem to have a clue what facts are so you should probably refrain from using or commenting on the use of the word.
Mmm and you clearly don't seem to have a clue what sardonicism is so you should probably refrain from responding to it or thinking about the use of the device. Sorry it went over your head, but the intent was to counter a ridiculous statement with an equally - subtle - ridiculous statement:
-FD and Trickster, albeit with less practice, are very talented players. Moreover, they have a wealth of experience that does not simply fade to black after a given amount of relative inactivity. -Outside of Korea, they'd still be able to easily perform well in many events. Sure, perhaps not at the top of MLG/DH, but many events nonetheless. FD at his worst, given his mechanics and replays, is still objectively better than many, many, many more casual NA tourny players. -The snide inclusion of "fact" was a sardonic poke at the the inference that it was a fact that FD/Trickster would be destroyed in the foreign/NA scene.
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Two talented players still up for grabs, really curious which team will be able to get them. They haven't been the most consistent lately but I believe they would still post some really great results at the tournaments they are wanting to attend. Liquid'Fruit would be cool.
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with the whole "foreigners vs koreans" and international scene in vougue atm, this would be awsome if a non-korean based team picked them up if rain can join fanatic, then having FD and trickster in an EG, liquid, mouse etc would be pretty damn impressive and exciting to follow
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On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote: Boxer = BW bonjwa, legendary gamer, practices more than his much younger teammates. Fruitdealer = BW player one of estro's ace player, average pro gamer, practices little. Tester = BW b-teamer, repeated osl msl qualifer, practices little. Nada = BW bonjwa, legendary gamer, practices alot.
There we go that's a bit better
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too bad.. but im sure such players can find an other team easily
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too bad.. but im sure such players can find an other team easily
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On June 26 2011 05:31 Irave wrote: Two talented players still up for grabs, really curious which team will be able to get them. They haven't been the most consistent lately but I believe they would still post some really great results at the tournaments they are wanting to attend. Liquid'Fruit would be cool.
Wouldn't that be Juice? xD
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I really want an update on this badly
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On June 26 2011 01:30 .Madness wrote: TSL is dead now
TSL players are top4 in the NASL qualifiers.
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FD joining chinese team,i called it HERE. (check sc2rank.com) CN server
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On June 26 2011 09:10 Veritassong wrote: FD joining chinese team,i called it HERE. (check sc2rank.com) CN server No way of telling whether that's really him (but rather unlikely since he always used the Korean characters for his name and not the Romanji translation...).
Regardless, there's 25 different accounts for "Fruitdealer" on sc2ranks - it's not reliable.
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On June 26 2011 03:38 rysecake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 17:47 Talin wrote:On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote: I expect FD and Tester will go compete in more international tournaments for easy money and good for them. I can't imagine them winning much of that "easy money" either without improving a lot first. Even at they're level they're far far above the average foreigner, and equal or a little below the top foreigners. They'd still make easy money.
Not nearly enough to justify the salary they gave up though.
I don't really know what you mean by "average" foreigner - can you name one? Right now I wouldn't be so quick to bet on them against Nerchio or Happy in online tournaments for example.
In their current shape (and without team house training), they're nowhere near equal to the top foreigners, and then there's also a lot of actually good Koreans who play in western tournaments regularly and will stand in their way to "easy money".
Easy money is just an illusion. Money comes to players who work hard enough, and only them, and it's never easy. Not even MC gets it that easy (or enough to rely completely on the foreign scene).
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I'm surprised no ones talks about JYP/Smart from TSL, he is probably one of their best players on the team with alive.
He beat MKP, Leenock 2:0 in LG Cinema 3D Special League.
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On June 26 2011 10:18 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2011 03:38 rysecake wrote:On June 25 2011 17:47 Talin wrote:On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote: I expect FD and Tester will go compete in more international tournaments for easy money and good for them. I can't imagine them winning much of that "easy money" either without improving a lot first. Even at they're level they're far far above the average foreigner, and equal or a little below the top foreigners. They'd still make easy money. Not nearly enough to justify the salary they gave up though. I don't really know what you mean by "average" foreigner - can you name one? Right now I wouldn't be so quick to bet on them against Nerchio or Happy in online tournaments for example. In their current shape (and without team house training), they're nowhere near equal to the top foreigners, and then there's also a lot of actually good Koreans who play in western tournaments regularly and will stand in their way to "easy money". Easy money is just an illusion. Money comes to players who work hard enough, and only them, and it's never easy. Not even MC gets it that easy (or enough to rely completely on the foreign scene).
Does anyone know how much money they were making, really?
That's a geniune question, I have no idea.
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Put Fruitdealer,Losira, and Nestea in the same house please?
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On June 26 2011 06:14 rewired wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2011 13:59 jyLee wrote: Boxer = BW bonjwa, legendary gamer, practices more than his much younger teammates. Fruitdealer = BW player one of estro's ace player, average pro gamer, practices little. Tester = BW b-teamer, repeated osl msl qualifer, practices little. Nada = BW bonjwa, legendary gamer, practices alot.
There we go that's a bit better
tester was a-team and played quite a few games compared to many of his estro brethren. His win percentage was pretty low but he along with Upmagic were, at a time, the only regular on the estro roster. Fruitdealer wasn't the estro ace either. He may have been pretty good in practice (don't know where he stood) but he didn't come out very much. The "practice bonjwa" of estro was magma.
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On June 26 2011 03:48 last light wrote:As a TSL fan who started following the team because of these two guys, I was bummed out at first but now I'm optimistic. As long as their and Rain's departure doesn't have something to do with behind the scene issues I think this will be benefit TSL in the long run. I think we all remember Cool's infamous interview where he said he didn't practice as much because he was always snowboarding or partying. Hopefully the team is adopting a more rigorous practice regiment and that's why they left.
Haha, Fruitdealer. Such a baller. You don't happen to have that interview?
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