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Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
June 26 2011 14:12 GMT
#421
How many players do TSL have left? I guess they have alot of spots to fill up and they can probably attract some good up and coming players with matches in the GSTL etc now, players that maybe doesn't get that much "stage time" because they are overshadowed by bigger names.

Potential - Will - Opportunity = Can form talents to amazing players.
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
June 26 2011 14:20 GMT
#422
Some rumors are that EG are getting korean players.

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/i9cur/koreans_to_eg_team_house/
I am not good with quotes
leakingpear
Profile Joined March 2006
United Kingdom302 Posts
June 26 2011 14:22 GMT
#423
On June 26 2011 03:51 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2011 03:36 leakingpear wrote:
On June 26 2011 01:25 babylon wrote:
On June 26 2011 01:14 Talin wrote:
On June 26 2011 00:57 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On June 25 2011 23:44 Termit wrote:
On June 25 2011 23:07 unnar wrote:
I really just hope those two disappear i dont like players who cant be botherd to practice

Yeah I'm feeling the same. I hope that they won't join a good "foreign" team just because they were good last year in the early stages of GSL. But on the other hand, I would love to see them attend tournamentss here and not take practice serious and then get destroyed at the events.


Funny thing is they'd probably still clean house at LAN events without lag, lol. Don't wanna hear it, sure, but it's plain fact.


How is it plain fact?

Moon cleaned house at DreamHack pretty damn well and though I like Moon very much, I wouldn't say that he's better than these two.



You and the other guy don't seem to have a clue what facts are so you should probably refrain from using or commenting on the use of the word.



Mmm and you clearly don't seem to have a clue what sardonicism is so you should probably refrain from responding to it or thinking about the use of the device. Sorry it went over your head, but the intent was to counter a ridiculous statement with an equally - subtle - ridiculous statement:

-FD and Trickster, albeit with less practice, are very talented players. Moreover, they have a wealth of experience that does not simply fade to black after a given amount of relative inactivity.
-Outside of Korea, they'd still be able to easily perform well in many events. Sure, perhaps not at the top of MLG/DH, but many events nonetheless. FD at his worst, given his mechanics and replays, is still objectively better than many, many, many more casual NA tourny players.
-The snide inclusion of "fact" was a sardonic poke at the the inference that it was a fact that FD/Trickster would be destroyed in the foreign/NA scene.


Oh ok it was all part of your elaborate plan! I am honestly so bored of people being called out for making a dumb statement and their retort is to claim intellectual superiority while simultaneously pretending that you can reliably imply any sort of intonation on two poorly constructed written sentences. It's a huge leap to say that "I would love to see them attend tournamentss here and not take practice serious and then get destroyed at the events." implies anything about their skill level, all it is saying is that the author of that statement wants that to happen to validate his opinion that players should have to practice hard to get results.

I honestly don't know what behooves people to defend their mistakes so vehemently, it's not like anyone is going to remember your name or really effect you in any meaningful way because of it. The idea that because someone points out something wrong you did means that they're on the polar opposite of whatever perceived argument you think you're in is equally bizarre. I never commented on the players' ability to do anything yet you felt it was necessary to bombard me with speculation.

None of which is fact.
Moderas
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States78 Posts
June 26 2011 15:06 GMT
#424
I think TSL has a HUGE oppurtunity here. They still have Clide, Puma, and Alive which makes a very solid Terran line up. If the redirect the money (I heard it was 30k each) they were paying to Fruitdealer and Tester and instead recruit 2 promising zerg and 2 protoss for 15k each (Not bad considering living costs are paid and they are young kids doing what they love) they could easily have a stronger line up than their previous one within 1-2 months.
DoA
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)599 Posts
June 26 2011 16:31 GMT
#425
I really hope TSL doesn't dissolve completely over this. I don't know what sort of internal politics are going on, but I always really enjoyed talking with the TSL coach. He seemed like a great guy who really put a lot of work into his team.
I cast, therefore I am.
weedgoku420
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada9 Posts
June 26 2011 17:27 GMT
#426
On June 27 2011 00:06 Moderas wrote:
I think TSL has a HUGE oppurtunity here. They still have Clide, Puma, and Alive which makes a very solid Terran line up. If the redirect the money (I heard it was 30k each) they were paying to Fruitdealer and Tester and instead recruit 2 promising zerg and 2 protoss for 15k each (Not bad considering living costs are paid and they are young kids doing what they love) they could easily have a stronger line up than their previous one within 1-2 months.


Don't forget about Rain. With him gone, there's even more money available to TSL to recruit other players.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
June 26 2011 17:32 GMT
#427
I hope TSL_Killer doesn't leave next.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
June 26 2011 17:50 GMT
#428
woudl be great to see fd and tester on a foreign team, just like rain. more interested in tester goes because his toss play is fun/ff's are always a treat to watch despite lackluster results.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
June 26 2011 17:54 GMT
#429
Is Sangho the last remaining good player?
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8594 Posts
June 26 2011 19:45 GMT
#430
On June 27 2011 02:54 EmilA wrote:
Is Sangho the last remaining good player?


No, the whole terran line-up is better than him.
FeaRDaMaN
Profile Joined October 2010
United States20 Posts
June 26 2011 20:01 GMT
#431
Too bad Liquid doesn't try to acquire Fruitdealer... Thing about the news that would stir up and Liquid having their own house in Korea and competing more in the Foreigner scene a player like Fruitdealer.

Just a dream
Chizeron
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden15 Posts
June 26 2011 21:28 GMT
#432
On June 24 2011 20:05 DownMaxX wrote:
I have Fruitdealer *and* Trickster on my fantasy anti-team.

lolwut

I have only fruitdealer on my antiteam but lolwhut the same...
He only employs his passion who can make no use of his reason. - Cicero
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
June 26 2011 21:45 GMT
#433
It's kind of suspicious that the entire TSL team joins the NASL open and FD+Trickster leave at about the same time.

Perhaps they didn't appreciate being forced to play late at night?
/commercial
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
June 26 2011 23:24 GMT
#434
On June 27 2011 06:45 Novalisk wrote:
It's kind of suspicious that the entire TSL team joins the NASL open and FD+Trickster leave at about the same time.

Perhaps they didn't appreciate being forced to play late at night?

Absolutely. You have a very solid theory on your hands here. The Koreans got tired of having to play in the NASL at 4am so they decided to leave their teams, paid salaries, and their code S positions ($1300 guaranteed) so they can move to the US to play NASL during regular evening times.

On a serious note, I think FD and Tester did not have much results in Korea so they are looking for the easy way out. The problem is that presumably most of TSL's sponsorships and salaries were gotten from Fruitdealer's fame--once he leaves, the team will be left in dire straits financially.

You guys talk about how FD, Tester, and Rain's salary can be re-allocated but I doubt this will be the case. The sponsors will see that without FD, Tester and Rain, TSL will be weaker in Teamleague as well as GSL and not worthy of their old contracts. The remaining players don't have much starpower. I just hope everything goes well for them.
Marines > everything
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
June 26 2011 23:44 GMT
#435
On June 27 2011 08:24 vnlegend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 06:45 Novalisk wrote:
It's kind of suspicious that the entire TSL team joins the NASL open and FD+Trickster leave at about the same time.

Perhaps they didn't appreciate being forced to play late at night?

Absolutely. You have a very solid theory on your hands here. The Koreans got tired of having to play in the NASL at 4am so they decided to leave their teams, paid salaries, and their code S positions ($1300 guaranteed) so they can move to the US to play NASL during regular evening times.

On a serious note, I think FD and Tester did not have much results in Korea so they are looking for the easy way out. The problem is that presumably most of TSL's sponsorships and salaries were gotten from Fruitdealer's fame--once he leaves, the team will be left in dire straits financially.

You guys talk about how FD, Tester, and Rain's salary can be re-allocated but I doubt this will be the case. The sponsors will see that without FD, Tester and Rain, TSL will be weaker in Teamleague as well as GSL and not worthy of their old contracts. The remaining players don't have much starpower. I just hope everything goes well for them.

Did Fruitdealer, TesteR and Rain (well Rain seemed to train a bit more than them) eve
get results in GSTL? I can only recall them losing, they are on many people anti team. I hope that TSL will still be able to do well / still have sponsors.
WriterMaru
sambo400
Profile Joined March 2011
United States378 Posts
June 27 2011 00:13 GMT
#436
On June 27 2011 01:31 DoA wrote:
I really hope TSL doesn't dissolve completely over this. I don't know what sort of internal politics are going on, but I always really enjoyed talking with the TSL coach. He seemed like a great guy who really put a lot of work into his team.

I met you at MLG!

I hope TSL stays a team simply because I love their jackets.
SuPerFlyTNT
Profile Joined November 2010
United States145 Posts
June 27 2011 00:21 GMT
#437
On June 24 2011 20:15 Mario1209 wrote:
damn, first Rain now trickster and fruitdealer. TSL falling apart =\


He says, as the semi finals of the NASL Open Tournnament consist of all TSL...
Every time my fingers touch brains.
GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
June 27 2011 03:37 GMT
#438
Sad to see fruitdealer leave. Although he hasn't really done anything for like 6 months.
Some people hurt people. I defenestrate those people.
Snaphoo
Profile Joined July 2010
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 04:39:37
June 27 2011 04:38 GMT
#439
On June 27 2011 09:21 SuPerFlyTNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2011 20:15 Mario1209 wrote:
damn, first Rain now trickster and fruitdealer. TSL falling apart =\


He says, as the semi finals of the NASL Open Tournnament consist of all TSL...


Eh, and the TL Open finals consisted of all NEX players. I dunno that you should read too heavily into these online qualifiers right now; outside of the very tip-top players, NA/EU are clearly not on the level of Korea right now.

Winning NA/EU online qualifiers does not mean TSL is going to be doing well in GSL/GSTL anytime soon.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 27 2011 04:47 GMT
#440
freedom want + army go = out
why so 진지해?
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