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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
June 24 2011 15:51 GMT
#481
Good, that eliminates the one lingering reason why I might watch NASL. I can't stand Gretorp's casting or even Gretorp + anyone but Incontrol casting. The games are very hit or miss, the format is terrible, and other than it running at a convenient time, there's nothing really going for it.

Thanks for making my decision easy Inc.
Legio
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden235 Posts
June 24 2011 15:54 GMT
#482
Excellent long term decision from Incontrol. I mean its possible that NASL is struggling, he didn't get the pay bump he wanted, there could be creative control issues, it doesn't really matter. Geoff has seen the fame and fortune coming to the top players, and he knows that at 24(?) years old he is much too young to get into a 9-5 job, when he has the talent to live the rockstar starcraft pro life for several more years, and place in the top 16 of top foreigner tournaments.

Casting gives a nice stable salary, but what is that compared to traveling the world, going to Korea, visiting drunken tournaments in Germany with friends. He can still cast games when hes 30, now is the time to play the game.
tdynasty
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada220 Posts
June 24 2011 15:56 GMT
#483
well now that NASL won't have amazing jokes and hilarious casting. I can also focus more on gaming.

I'm pretty sure I watched NASL everyday for 9 weeks because of Goeff. He honestly is the best caster I have ever watched. Not only is his analysis amazing. Casting is a game of personality and entertainment, Incontrol had those aspects about him.

I'm going to say, I'm definetly upset. I actually became of Fan of Incontrol, watching him games. BECAUSE I got to meet him on the NASL.

Good luck Buddy in Tournaments.

My Favorite NASL Incontrol Moment!

"HERE YOU GO KAWAIIRICE! HAPPY BIRTHDAY! I GOT YOU PROTOSS!"

French Canada
GertHeart
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States631 Posts
June 24 2011 15:59 GMT
#484
It's probably for the best Incontrol, right choice, you've started to preform really well. Wouldn't mind seeing you do even better.
He who conquers the past rules the future, He who conquers the future rules the past. - C&C Red Alert
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
June 24 2011 16:03 GMT
#485
Seeing how well he plays even though he casts full time was surprising. Just imagine 2-3 months from now how refined his play will be.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
June 24 2011 16:04 GMT
#486
On June 25 2011 00:51 deth2munkies wrote:
Good, that eliminates the one lingering reason why I might watch NASL. I can't stand Gretorp's casting or even Gretorp + anyone but Incontrol casting. The games are very hit or miss, the format is terrible, and other than it running at a convenient time, there's nothing really going for it.

Thanks for making my decision easy Inc.


Hate to say it but I kind of agree with this. I think Gretorp is OK when inc is there but without inc I doubt I'll watch outside of idra and a few others. At this point casters are more important to me than who's actually playing outside of about 8 players that I would watch a mountain lion cast. Anything with Tastosis, inc, idra, day 9, and obviously MC is auto watch for me and everything else needs great players for me to tune in.
Apologize.
JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
June 24 2011 16:08 GMT
#487
Will miss his casting, he's actually probably my favorite caster and not to be one of those complete haters but I have a hard time enjoying it with some of the other casters that they have had; (Moletrap, Diggity, Xeres).

Hopefully they can find a suitable replacement and hopefully this allows inc to start crushing some tournaments.
@Triumph_eSports . www.Triumph-eSports.com
.VeX-
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium1 Post
June 24 2011 16:15 GMT
#488
bye bye NASL
herrmus
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden144 Posts
June 24 2011 16:26 GMT
#489
i havent watched a single nasl game, not even interested. Its hard to get hyped about a tournament lasting so long.
Reedy
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom185 Posts
June 24 2011 16:30 GMT
#490
I enjoy watching Geoff play but you can see that his play has suffered in recent weeks and months due to the amount of time he spends casting etc. Will be good to see him improve his play in the near future
PingTimeout
Profile Joined May 2011
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 16:31:34
June 24 2011 16:30 GMT
#491
It's sad, but I understand the (inferred) reasoning.

iNcontrol has a lot of personality. I felt that the "Gretrol" duo was really fluid. Without him, the casting might be a bit less lively, but we'll have to see who replaces him as the regular co-caster.

My inferred reasoning is that iNcontrol made the call to focus purely on his pro career. That's very respectable. He probably doesn't want to see his play slip because of the casting (see: PainUser, Gretorp).

I'll miss his casting just the same!
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
June 24 2011 16:31 GMT
#492
Aww this is too bad, I liked Incontrol as a caster, it's gonna be weird with out him...
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
June 24 2011 16:34 GMT
#493
I enjoyed Geoffs casting much more than gretorps (no offense), but I do hope incontrol will do better now in as professional level ^^
MogSkynet
Profile Joined May 2011
25 Posts
June 24 2011 16:43 GMT
#494
This is bad for the NASL imo, but the right decision for iNControL if he wants to continue as a player--which he clearly does. It would have been impossible for him to still compete and cast as much as he has been. Just look at Artosis....
deroth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States83 Posts
June 24 2011 16:46 GMT
#495
On June 24 2011 11:38 crms wrote:
This decision pains me as it's like watching someone you like make bad choices. I'm sorry but Geoff isn't a community mega star because of his stellar performances as a professional player. He's beloved because of who he is, his personality and what he brings to the community through shows like SOTG and being an entertaining caster.

I felt him leaving SOTG was a bad choice because its basically the platform that launched him to fame in STARCRAFT 2 (we all know Geoff was known by the small foreigner BW people). Now leaving the NASL is just #2 in the bad decisions he's made.

I understand he wants to be a top level player and competition is his passion but at some level you have to be wise about your options and future. Retracting into the bowels of competitive play when you have the entire SC2 community spotlight is just a terrible decision.

Geoff should embrace his role as an esports ambassador and excelling community member, that is where he will 'make it'. Does Geoff think hes gained so much fame and notoriety, commercial deals and casting jobs because of his playing skills? Does he think he's being invited to intel panels and traveling on company dimes because he's a top player? Let's be real...

Anyway, I wish him all the luck as a player. EG was one of my favorite teams pre-starcraft. I just think these moves he's been making to reduce his community involvement to focus on playing more are foolish.


edit: I know this post sounds harsh like I'm an incontrol hater but nothing could be further from the truth. I will cheer incontrol on throughout his gaming career and root for EG almost always. It's just hard to see someone come so far from the obscurity of brood war to toss aside some really great opportunities because they want to be a 'champ.' What I just posted about incontrol I would say to my best friend if the situation existed.


Completely agree. He has a lot more potential IMO in being himself while connecting to sc2 community than in progaming.
uMjuzu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark24 Posts
June 24 2011 16:48 GMT
#496
Such a huge loss for NASL, but as incontrol always has said, he's a player before a caster...
Will miss him while watching NASL in the future!
Hope he gets better in the EG house, if he won't cast that much anymore, atleast justify it by being a huge powerhouse of a player!!
Babidibubbe?
Lingy
Profile Joined December 2010
England201 Posts
June 24 2011 16:48 GMT
#497
Will be awesome to see Geoff competing in tourneys around the world, look forward to seing a top form incontrol! <3<3<3
Will be a shame to have an NASL without him though Loved the incontorp combo crew :'(
Hydraliskuuuuhh
UnseenGaming
Profile Joined February 2011
United States39 Posts
June 24 2011 16:49 GMT
#498
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES WINNING!!!!
"I be the man on Moon"
ES_JohnClark
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1121 Posts
June 24 2011 16:58 GMT
#499
Not that it matters what I think.. lol... but this is probably a very good move for Geoff. He understands that his role is as a competitor and caster. I do believe you will see him casting again and probably at the same time he is concentrating on playing. I do, however, feel like there is probably more to the story then what is being shared with us.

Someone said that NASL was too long of a 'tournament' and the format was shabby. First, it was not really a tournament.. its a League.. and it performed exactly as it should have. Yes, most will agree that the format is borked.. but you have to remember that most of the guys running the show have little to no experience with event structure and organization. I think the idea is solid from NASL. Setup the league more as a sports league. This is something that eSports needs badly. Yes, NASL hyped it up and failed to deliver at first.. especially with their content/coverage and production value.. but the idea is solid and as the community and esports moves forward we can all use NASL as a lesson in how to and not to do things.

I wish NASL all the best.. (change your name though.. you may be sued for it soon!).. and I am sure they are taking the suggestions of the masses seriously and looking to improve on season 1.

Good Luck to Geoff in his new ventures and I think we need to stop whining about the casting so much.. give good suggestions to the casters we have.. let them learn from their mistakes.. and look to find new casters that can breath more life into the SC2 community!

my 3 cents..
Still Naked!
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
June 24 2011 17:01 GMT
#500
Will he still compete in the NASL? I think this is great for him, he has shown that he wants to be a player, not a community man. More power to you, Geoff.
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