The Official Live On Three Thread - Page 10

On July 21 2011 07:03 Slasher wrote:

I have no doubt that Milkis knowledge and history in this area is extremely valuable and welcomed by myself, Wheat and Scoots. We're going to try and do open-phones and I'd love to bring him on ASAP. But to say I/we should not comment on these matters because we don't have proper knowledge of the situation is beyond preposterous and slightly insulting.

On July 21 2011 07:03 Milkis wrote:


By contacts you mean you have them on twitter? =/

WCG is a different entity. What kind of interaction with "OGN Staff", when you don't even speak the same language?

"We'll see", I suppose. Your call in the end, but I'd honestly be a bit more careful when talking about issues like this, especially when it comes to the scope of things.

On July 21 2011 07:08 Slasher wrote:

Dude - Come on. No, not on Twitter, email and instant messaging them directly through MSN & Skype. I have spoken to them through Korean translators and eaten together during WCG-staff dinners from last year. Me having to even say this to justify myself in the first place is ridiculous.

On July 21 2011 07:08 Slasher wrote:

Dude - Come on. No, not on Twitter, email and instant messaging them directly through MSN & Skype. I have spoken to them through Korean translators and eaten together during WCG-staff dinners from last year. Me having to even say this to justify myself in the first place is ridiculous.

On July 21 2011 07:33 Yew wrote:
I've never watched this show, is it about esports in general or SC2/BW only? And is it more like the business side of things or something? Sorry for being so ignorant xD

On July 21 2011 07:35 Slasher wrote:

Covers all eSports, not just SC2/BW, including all aspects (business, coverage, production, etc)

On July 21 2011 07:34 Blitz Beat wrote:


For a "news" show that spreads opinions, I hope that you guys are using more than just team liquid posts as a source. There's a reason why professors and professionals cringe when Wikipedia or forums are cited as a source of information.

Much of what's been posted on teamliquid has been just flat out wrong or taken out of context due to the fact that many posters have not lived in korea, understand korean culture, or speak / read korean (Google translations are horrible =\). If you have contacts at OGN and other Korean e-sports media, I would hope you'd have tapped the sources of the information directly.

Anyway, going to definitely tune in to today's show.

On July 21 2011 05:59 Slasher wrote:
Episode #80 goes live in 2 hours from now. Tonight's special guest is SK managing director and co-founder Alexander Mueller. We will talk all about the hotly debated NaDa and MC signing to SK and how that will effect the SC2 ecosystem, and what it means for both SK Gaming and oGs. We will also discuss the recent SK/fnatic CS player transfer issues, and a longtime Live On Three topic regarding "John Doe" articles posted on SK's site many months ago. King of Chinatown Director Calvin Theobald will also join the show for discussion on his documentary's release.

Other topics tonight include:

- OGN broadcasting SC2
- Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 release
- Response to my Kotaku article and comments received
- FXO buying out fOu
- MLG Anaheim Schedule and casters
- SlayerS Jessica legal dispute
- ESWC's Matteiu Dallon returns
- STX willing to drop all players; any to SC2?
- MYM with players issues

Tune in at http://www.Justin.tv/OneMoreGameTV

Q: Can you spectate an already ongoing DotA 2 game? (by Valo)
A: A lot of the game will be built around spectating and shoutcasting support. You will be able to join most ongoing games (unless the players marked it as private) and just watch them. You can join a game your friend is in, see what your favorite clan is doing, or simply pick a skill level and a hero you like and it will find you one to watch. We also have a system in place that automatically distributes the load to multiple servers so that the game itself won’t be affected by users joining to spectate. Our distribution network will allow us to support any number of users that want to watch, by dynamically assigning more servers to the task. There will also be special tags and search options to help you find live or old shoutcasted games. Shoutcasters will be able to operate as directors, so anyone watching will have his camera looking at the same things the shoutcaster is viewing. There is also an optional anti-cheat mechanism built in so that the game you are spectating can be time delayed by any amount of time to reduce potential abuse.

Gabe Newell: The piece of the puzzle that I’m always curious about is that nobody’s done a good job of making watching that entertaining enough. If I could take six months off just to work on that problem, that’d be pretty cool. Because I think there’s a huge amount of opportunity there.

Obviously, there’s a bunch of things that professional competitive gamers care about. You know, like, I care about this in terms of latency. I care about this in terms of user interface issues. I care about this in terms of how tournaments are managed. And those things are all pretty tractable, and the nice things about professional gamers is they tend to be sophisticated in their descriptions of what it is that they would like. It’s pretty easy to get a laundry list from them and say, okay, we can do three of these right away. I think the harder problem is how to make what they are doing, which is awesome…every time I see one of the people at the elite levels playing any game whether it’s WoW or DOTA or Counter-Strike it’s just stunning how good it is.

But I think what’s also stunning is the terrible job we as an industry have done so far in terms of making it entertaining to watch and appreciate how talented and skilled those people are. So if I had to pick one problem to tackle in that space it would be to make it more fun to be a spectator. Is there anything that you know about what’s going on with the competitive scene…?

Erik Johnson: I think DOTA is going to be the product where we are going to focus on this problem. It presents some advantages over some of our other games in terms of viewing just because of the type of game it is. It has a very well established mature professional scene. We’re going to push on this. I think it’s way undervalued. There’s a lot of room there.

On July 21 2011 07:52 dacthehork wrote:
It's gonna be sad when they've dismissed dota for the last 5 years, then dota 2 comes out and they try hard to ride the popularity wave. Can't wait for the episode after gamescom when they try to hop aboard.

Valve is flying in rumored 14 teams (5 people each) to germany full expenses paid. Gabe and co have even talked about esports and how the devs dont support it enough and have done everything possible to intergrate dota 2 esports into the actual game. It's amazing Lo3 never gives any credit to dota.

I mean for god's sake Valve is basically doing things with dota 2 , bnet 2.0 could only dream of. They've stated they are going to actually put full support behind the pro scene. There is already a full professional dota scene in china with full time pro teams. There are numerous european teams / american star players etc.