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It is highly recommended that your read this entire thread - at least until page 10. If you make uninformed opinions that have been answered by the thread, col management or Destiny, you will be banned.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
June 22 2011 23:51 GMT
#481
to be honest it sounds like Destiny doesnt need a team right now, hes built himself up as a community figure/commentator to the point where he can make enough money to support himself without help (if his stream figures he posted were even half accurate, he is well off)

So if I was him, and if Complexity was asking for things such as promotion during his stream and the like, or anything hindering doing what "he does".. then this sounds like a reasonable move for him, even as much shit as it is to break a contract.

Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-22 23:54:31
June 22 2011 23:51 GMT
#482
how about destiny can keep the clan tag root and make new clan when he has more time?

I am sure that col issue is not only major concern for steven atm. He is a father now and that means more responsibilities then he seems to be in his stream.
Imo Everybody needs to steam stress out once for while and if you consider that he is playing sc2 like office work, it is not only about fun and stuff, but it also can cause stress and exhausting.
It is surely unfortuate for both side that there was a misunderstanding from both side as i assume. I hope both sides learned lesson from it and make it better in future!

About steven, I am sure that he is a mature man who welcomes fair conversation and want only best for all so i will continue to enjoy his stream.

note: I DONT know any details to judge what happend between incontrol and all incidents mentioned in this thread, this is only my opinion who have been watching his stream for long time before he got into root.
"Successful people don't talk much. They listen and take action."
MollocH
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany100 Posts
June 22 2011 23:55 GMT
#483
He has to keep the clantag if he doesn't want to make his way to grandmaster a second time.

He used his free name change to change from Destiny to ROOTDestiny.

So he has to wait for blizzard to allow purchased name changes
vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
June 23 2011 00:00 GMT
#484
Just lock this shit storm like you said you were going to mani, noone contributing to this thread has a valid opinion. Let the news be news and let the people bicker somewhere else.
Day[9] i've broken 6 mice, 5 keyboards, 3 pairs of headphones, and a mousepad, all from raging after starcraft losing streaks
Ridiculisk
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia191 Posts
June 23 2011 00:00 GMT
#485
It's a shame that Destiny won't be playing with his team mates from ROOT anymore...

Used to love the back and forth between CatZ and Destiny, was hilarious.

Best of luck to him for the future though, he's sure to find a new home soon!

Destiny Hwaiting!!!
TAhackdZ.379 - Sc2sea.com Article Writer
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 00:08:51
June 23 2011 00:02 GMT
#486
What a shame, I find Destiny to be quite entertaining. Hopefully things work out for you in the long run.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
June 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#487
It's coL's loss really. He might not have tournament results but he's far and away a larger part of the community than anyone else on their team.

And honestly no tournament results doesn't mean he isn't a tournament quality player. SC2 is a ridiculously hard game to achieve consistent results in. It's completely understandable that a large portion of players on professional teams would often fail to get far in tournies simply due to luck. Destiny's certainly capable of taking games off of anyone out there.

He's also generated so much more publicity from this entire incident now that I wouldn't be surprised if he walks off the better. He still has the resources to continue practicing with top tier players and he'll undoubtedly get picked up by another team eventually that would love to have a player as popular as him. Even better, another team isn't going to make the same mistake of expecting him to suddenly turn his stream around and begin censoring himself right after joining.
BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
June 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#488
Well I wish destiny the best in the future. He has been improving so much lately I have very little doubt we'll be seeing him out in some strong performances in some major tournaments in the future.
"So come right up and let me squash your creativity with my iron fist of conservative play."--Nony
RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
June 23 2011 00:12 GMT
#489
Sounds like both sides fixed what they needed to so after reading all 25 pages of mainly drama it's nice to step back out into reality to just realize it was a bad move, he apologizes for making a bad move and its done. Good luck to Complexity and Destiny, they both add a ton of excitement to the community in there own way which is great for us fans of SC. I gotta admit though the drama is what gets people to dig all the way into threads so it doesn't surprise me it turned out that way. I mean I will admit I watch General Hospital everyday not because I care about each character but only for all the dramatic stuff going on.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#490
On June 23 2011 09:09 Beakyboo wrote:
It's coL's loss really. He might not have tournament results but he's far and away a larger part of the community than anyone else on their team.

And honestly no tournament results doesn't mean he isn't a tournament quality player. SC2 is a ridiculously hard game to achieve consistent results in. It's completely understandable that a large portion of players on professional teams would often fail to get far in tournies simply due to luck. Destiny's certainly capable of taking games off of anyone out there.

He's also generated so much more publicity from this entire incident now that I wouldn't be surprised if he walks off the better. He still has the resources to continue practicing with top tier players and he'll undoubtedly get picked up by another team eventually that would love to have a player as popular as him. Even better, another team isn't going to make the same mistake of expecting him to suddenly turn his stream around and begin censoring himself right after joining.

consistent results=/=any results.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
June 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#491
God, so much drama. Did you guys even read Destiny´s response?

To me it seems they couldn´t reach a compromise and parted ways amicably, LOL TL sure loves the drama.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Craminit
Profile Joined June 2011
United States58 Posts
June 23 2011 00:16 GMT
#492
Has he discussed on his stream about any other teams he is interested in?
Devist8
Profile Joined May 2011
United States11 Posts
June 23 2011 00:17 GMT
#493
Best of lucky to you Destiny. I am glad you did what you felt what was right for your teammates at the time before worrying about yourself. It seems like this is working out ok for both parties.

Destiny I still hope you join a team at some point......I would really love to watch you in tournaments more often.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week. George S. Patton
Liquid`EliGE
Profile Joined October 2010
United States527 Posts
June 23 2011 00:20 GMT
#494
On June 23 2011 09:16 Craminit wrote:
Has he discussed on his stream about any other teams he is interested in?


After everyone was discussing it in the stream chat, he just said hes fine on his own basically so.
Team Liquid"I was wondering why people who that would never dream of laughing at a blind or a crippled man would laugh at a moron."
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1692 Posts
June 23 2011 00:21 GMT
#495
I dont know how much longer destiny expects to be able to make a living off of streaming. If I were him I would have signed. Times will change eventually, and I've be concerned about job security.
dracu1a
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada24 Posts
June 23 2011 00:23 GMT
#496
On June 23 2011 08:51 GrazerRinge wrote:
how about destiny can keep the clan tag root and make new clan when he has more time?

I am sure that col issue is not only major concern for steven atm. He is a father now and that means more responsibilities then he seems to be in his stream.
Imo Everybody needs to steam stress out once for while and if you consider that he is playing sc2 like office work, it is not only about fun and stuff, but it also can cause stress and exhausting.
It is surely unfortuate for both side that there was a misunderstanding from both side as i assume. I hope both sides learned lesson from it and make it better in future!

About steven, I am sure that he is a mature man who welcomes fair conversation and want only best for all so i will continue to enjoy his stream.

note: I DONT know any details to judge what happend between incontrol and all incidents mentioned in this thread, this is only my opinion who have been watching his stream for long time before he got into root.


English isn't your first language, is it?

User was banned for this post.
Trentelshark
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 00:24:02
June 23 2011 00:23 GMT
#497
On June 23 2011 06:02 Destiny wrote:
Sorry, I don't want to start any drama or anything, so here's my quip of the story

TL:DR : I signed the contract, I broke the contact, that's a pretty douche move.

Basically there'd been talks of ROOT/Complexity merging for a while, to relieve stress from catz/drewbie, which is cool, it gives them more time to play, etc...

One day, I got a message pretty much saying "hey, that contract is due tonight, you gotta sign it today". I pretty much had half a day to decide whether or not to sign, and it seemed like if I didn't sign, the deal would fall through for the rest of the team. I didn't want to mess up everyone's opportunities to move on with their career just because I felt uncomfortable, and there was nothing -too- objectionable in the contract, so I signed it.

In the following days, I had more time to think about it, and the more I turned it over in my head, the more problems I found with the arrangement, and the more reasons I found not to be associated with a major business SC2 team, at least not at this moment in time. I talked a long time to Catz, and had a few words with Jason, and eventually settled on the conclusion that I wouldn't actually be joining.

A completely respectable response right there others in the public eye or not should take notice. Putting the team before yourself and not simply signing a legally binding contract for the sake of it. I waited until Destiny made a response to say anything because I knew people would jump all over this like a fat kid on a Smartie/Cake (take your pick) with his "manners" on his stream.

Best of luck to you in whatever you pursue moving forward Destiny .
Tacoss23
Profile Joined April 2011
United States23 Posts
June 23 2011 00:24 GMT
#498
I don't think either side would be affected in any bad way from this. Destiny seems to be happy where he is at, having a constant 5k+ viewers in one of the most consistent streams. And Col is looking to "achieve" something competitively, and lets face it, Destiny is not at that level (not because he is not good, but because he seems to not care enough for it to go that extra mile).

I find a little ironic thou that CoL management is "complaining" about behavior on Destiny's stream, while they have had pretty shady behaviors in the past by other members on their team. Like for example cheating while on the stream and trash-talking agaisnt other far succesful Pro-players at a personal level.
ManusCelerDei
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom56 Posts
June 23 2011 00:25 GMT
#499
I read this on the complexity site, loads of people raging and cursing out complexity. Destiny signed a contract, he knew what was in it; and if he didn't more fool him for signing it! Not honouring the terms of a contract is just the same as showing up to work and then sitting there all day doing nothing. You'll get fired!
I'm not too bothered about this whole thing but I don't understand the rage directed towards complexity for doing right by themselves with a player who want honour their contract.
Hot for HoTS
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
June 23 2011 00:26 GMT
#500
on a slightly off topic note i really think complexity needs to land a sc2 ace player.
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