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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#1801
Does anyone know where to look for the starting players? Looking to dump Revival for someone without high points.
Reconsidering my Alicia for Puma trade, idk if Puma will be played for TSL/Slayers but if he is and wins alot, he may become out of reach and i'd rather sacrifice a week of Alicia points for having Puma the rest of the season, he's really good, TSL is small/lacks a really good ace, and Alicia may not get play other than being the protoss sniper; there's just too many good players.
Piski
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Finland3461 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 07:20:27
July 13 2011 07:18 GMT
#1802
On July 13 2011 13:44 DystopiaX wrote:
Does anyone know where to look for the starting players? Looking to dump Revival for someone without high points.
Reconsidering my Alicia for Puma trade, idk if Puma will be played for TSL/Slayers but if he is and wins alot, he may become out of reach and i'd rather sacrifice a week of Alicia points for having Puma the rest of the season, he's really good, TSL is small/lacks a really good ace, and Alicia may not get play other than being the protoss sniper; there's just too many good players.


Slayers (T)Lots vs TSL (Z)RevivaL

FXO (P)SLoG - fOu (T)GuMiho

ST (T)Sound - ZENEX (T)Byun

So what do people think. Is it worth to trade Alicia for PuMa? I don't want to trade Squirtle because he plays a lot of ST. Alicia plays quite a lot too though so it's hard.
Also is Hero > Lots a smart trade? They seem to be a lot cause but at least Lots is playing.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
July 13 2011 07:30 GMT
#1803
I had to trade July away so I could get Gumiho who will all-kill FXO T_T
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 08:14:16
July 13 2011 08:07 GMT
#1804
SLoG has a good shot at taking GuMiho out, actually. All-kill is possible, but don't underestimate SLoG.

EDIT: If FXO plays their best they can actually take this. Observe:

SLoG vs GuMiho
tgun vs GuMiho
tgun vs Leenock
qxc vs Leenock
Oz vs Leenock
Oz vs choya/TopClass/asd
Oz vs sC
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 09:42:39
July 13 2011 09:40 GMT
#1805
On July 13 2011 12:05 vicious.e0 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I need to pick up someone for sculp..... so undecided, he was a huge bust....

I'm trying to decide between Soccer, Hero, Huk, or maybe Creator as to who could actually get played and get points. Help?


Picking an unknown Z that gets sent out on Crevasse and ends up playing against FXOz (arguably their best player who was sent out against ST_Curious, and succeeded) can only be considered a poor trade decision.... However, I'm in the same boat as you since I traded Tiger for Shuttle because I thought sculp would lose game 1 and a terran user would get sent out next for NSH and beast it up (since according to their team the T users are the best players on it). I picked the wrong T user... Now I kinda want to trade shuttle away even though I think he's a pretty damn good T user. How well is that team going to do against ST and the unexpected results of ZeNeX?

The only real option right now seems to be SlayerS_Lots. However he may be a player that was meant to snipe a strong TSL T user that gets sent out on Crossfire and only his TvT may be particularly good. But since TSL sent out Revival on such a Terran favored map they must have expected him to play ZvT... It seems like everything is going according to TSL's plans where SlayerS might be surprised that Lots doesn't have to play a TvT. Even though you have to say T has an advantage on Crossfire there must be an ace up Revival's sleeve. I'm seriously debating whether or not to put my hopes on Lots winning the match and getting a bump in trade value along with the possible 3 points.

What do you guys think of trading Alicia for Puma and Happy for TaeJa? I figured TaeJa might get to go up against Revival, and Squirtle might be a greater asset for ST than Alicia for Slayers. I'm pretty torn, though, both Alicia and Squirtle are players I'd like to keep, but Puma is such an obvious ace on a team with very few players that I just have to have him.


Damn, don't get Taeja this week man. Lots is leading for Slayers and playing a TvZ on crossfire against Revival. He'll probably win. And with MMA/Ganzi/Ryung to choose from for T users Taeja is unlikely to see play. Trade for him after unless you only want the 1 bench point for SlayerS winning.

With that said trading for PuMa this week seems to be a bit early. If you didn't have him last week when he decimated Prime there isn't a big rush to get him for when he plays SlayerS. That team has always relied on sniping and good coaching decisions as well as the skill of the players. Nobody (aside from DRG) will ever see a 3-game streak against SlayerS because of this.

Well... it's unlikely anyways. Trying to pick a player that SlayerS won't be able to deal with is pretty difficult. PuMa is probably one of the players most likely to streak against SlayerS but I really don't think he can. It's probably best to wait until week 6 to try and get him (if you think he'll be needed vs FUnited).

Yeah, you're totally right, man, I came to my senses and undid my trades last night; it's a lot better to wait until TSL plays two weeks in a row later on, and having to throw in TaeJa just to have a Slayers player on my team obviously isn't a very smart way to do it.

As of now I already have Smart, so I hope to see some great stuff from him instead.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18198 Posts
July 13 2011 10:42 GMT
#1806
On July 13 2011 09:46 fant0m wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 02:12 Piski wrote:
On July 13 2011 02:03 asperger wrote:
On July 13 2011 01:17 Acrofales wrote:
Have Tester and Fruitdealer been added to ST roster in the fantasy league? Or do they still count as being on TSL. What happens if they play for ST?

I'm pretty sure Trickster will work as a regular ST player.


They both are on ST so I think they are now just as any other ST player.

Source


That would be pretty bullshit IMO.

Need to keep some consistency throughout the season, especially since they've been untradable.


They still are untradeable. If they are now on ST for the fantasy league, they should be tradeable again. Next week it'll be too late for me to grab trickster on my anti-team
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 11:49:10
July 13 2011 11:46 GMT
#1807
On July 13 2011 16:18 Piski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 13:44 DystopiaX wrote:
Does anyone know where to look for the starting players? Looking to dump Revival for someone without high points.
Reconsidering my Alicia for Puma trade, idk if Puma will be played for TSL/Slayers but if he is and wins alot, he may become out of reach and i'd rather sacrifice a week of Alicia points for having Puma the rest of the season, he's really good, TSL is small/lacks a really good ace, and Alicia may not get play other than being the protoss sniper; there's just too many good players.


Slayers (T)Lots vs TSL (Z)RevivaL

FXO (P)SLoG - fOu (T)GuMiho

ST (T)Sound - ZENEX (T)Byun

So what do people think. Is it worth to trade Alicia for PuMa? I don't want to trade Squirtle because he plays a lot of ST. Alicia plays quite a lot too though so it's hard.
Also is Hero > Lots a smart trade? They seem to be a lot cause but at least Lots is playing.

Oh nice I happen to have Byun, Revival, and Gumiho on my team already, and I was going to dump Revival for a starter. I made the trade you're debating for the same reasons you're debating it- Alicia is Slayers' best Toss, but with so many otehr good players, especially Terran, he's only good as a Toss sniper. Puma however, is right now perhaps TSL's best player on a lineup not especially deep- I think only 7 players sat their bench last week/time they played. TSL has a better schedule for seeing an ace play, but not hard enough that you'd lose/not get points for losses.

Where do you go to get that info though? I wanna be able to check the starters every week.

edit- @asperger+ the other guy: the reason I didn't wait for Puma was in case he, by chance or skill, happened to do really well against Slayers, and then was out of reach- the only person I can trade is Alicia for that 24.something point value (DRG's my captain and I wouldn't trade him anyway), and if Alicia doesn't see play/do well, and Puma does, then I'm missing a player I definitely want in the future, so making the possible sacrifice of this week's points is worth it IMO.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 14:22:25
July 13 2011 12:26 GMT
#1808
On July 13 2011 20:46 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2011 16:18 Piski wrote:
On July 13 2011 13:44 DystopiaX wrote:
Does anyone know where to look for the starting players? Looking to dump Revival for someone without high points.
Reconsidering my Alicia for Puma trade, idk if Puma will be played for TSL/Slayers but if he is and wins alot, he may become out of reach and i'd rather sacrifice a week of Alicia points for having Puma the rest of the season, he's really good, TSL is small/lacks a really good ace, and Alicia may not get play other than being the protoss sniper; there's just too many good players.


Slayers (T)Lots vs TSL (Z)RevivaL

FXO (P)SLoG - fOu (T)GuMiho

ST (T)Sound - ZENEX (T)Byun

So what do people think. Is it worth to trade Alicia for PuMa? I don't want to trade Squirtle because he plays a lot of ST. Alicia plays quite a lot too though so it's hard.
Also is Hero > Lots a smart trade? They seem to be a lot cause but at least Lots is playing.

Oh nice I happen to have Byun, Revival, and Gumiho on my team already, and I was going to dump Revival for a starter. I made the trade you're debating for the same reasons you're debating it- Alicia is Slayers' best Toss, but with so many otehr good players, especially Terran, he's only good as a Toss sniper. Puma however, is right now perhaps TSL's best player on a lineup not especially deep- I think only 7 players sat their bench last week/time they played. TSL has a better schedule for seeing an ace play, but not hard enough that you'd lose/not get points for losses.

Where do you go to get that info though? I wanna be able to check the starters every week.

edit- @asperger+ the other guy: the reason I didn't wait for Puma was in case he, by chance or skill, happened to do really well against Slayers, and then was out of reach- the only person I can trade is Alicia for that 24.something point value (DRG's my captain and I wouldn't trade him anyway), and if Alicia doesn't see play/do well, and Puma does, then I'm missing a player I definitely want in the future, so making the possible sacrifice of this week's points is worth it IMO.

I guess I count on having Squirtle as a possible trade for Puma later on, because currently I feel my team isn't fit for trading around enough to justify a Puma trade. Puma is an amazing player, but Slayers has so many competent players that they easily can prepare one of them for Puma alone.


On July 13 2011 17:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
SLoG has a good shot at taking GuMiho out, actually. All-kill is possible, but don't underestimate SLoG.

EDIT: If FXO plays their best they can actually take this. Observe:

SLoG vs GuMiho
tgun vs GuMiho
tgun vs Leenock
qxc vs Leenock
Oz vs Leenock
Oz vs choya/TopClass/asd
Oz vs sC

Uh, I'm pretty certain that the only one who could have a shot at taking out GuMiho would be Oz, if he's playing at his absolute best. tgun taking GuMiho out is extremely wishful thinking.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 16:03:30
July 13 2011 16:02 GMT
#1809
On July 13 2011 17:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
SLoG has a good shot at taking GuMiho out, actually. All-kill is possible, but don't underestimate SLoG.

EDIT: If FXO plays their best they can actually take this. Observe:

SLoG vs GuMiho
tgun vs GuMiho
tgun vs Leenock
qxc vs Leenock
Oz vs Leenock
Oz vs choya/TopClass/asd
Oz vs sC


All of those are extremely unlikely.

Anyway, I always grab the team that's playing FXO and the opening player.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 16:09:04
July 13 2011 16:08 GMT
#1810
Just because you don't understand what FXO is capable of doesn't make it unlikely.

Though the odds actually are stacked against them.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33524 Posts
July 13 2011 17:47 GMT
#1811
sorry for the late update this week, leadoffs are in OP now
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
July 13 2011 18:42 GMT
#1812
On July 14 2011 01:08 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Just because you don't understand what FXO is capable of doesn't make it unlikely.

Though the odds actually are stacked against them.

Uh, I think we're quite informed about FXO's potential.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
July 13 2011 19:08 GMT
#1813
hm Byun might get 2-3 kills given his recent strong performance, might be a good pickup given his trade value is low.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
July 13 2011 19:12 GMT
#1814
I Had to pickup Gumiho . I like FXO but Gumiho is very very good probaly a better player then Hack and JJakji that all-killed them before.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
July 13 2011 21:32 GMT
#1815
This is an interesting week. I'm looking to trade TheStC, but I have no idea who to trade him for. I guess Byun or Puzzle are the best choices. I think he could get 2 wins under his belt this week. Especially considering his recent form. Startale really doesn't have too many choices to combat Byun. The only good players they have vT are July, Squirtle and Bomber. But Byun is amazing vP. And CoCa would come out and annihilate Squirtle if he managed to beat Byun.

Actually the more I think about it, I see a big week for July incoming. If he isn't too jetlagged to play, good chance he comes out. And if he can get through Byun, there aren't any ZNX players that can really stop him... aside from Puzzle who they'll save as their ace. July would have a very good chance of beating any player ZNX sends out.

Stuck between Puzzle and Byun
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
July 13 2011 21:42 GMT
#1816
I kind of agree with Tempest. I can see tgun beating GuMiho. It would be difficult, but its certainly possible.

Of course there is no chance Oz is going to get 3 kills and win for FXO lol. That is beyond wishful thinking. sC, Leenock and GuMiho are way too strong.
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
July 13 2011 22:13 GMT
#1817
GuMiho all-kill?
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
July 13 2011 22:26 GMT
#1818
I think GuMiho will all-kill, and I really don't think you guys should pick up Revival, guys; he's never impressed me very much, and Lots could probably take him out if MMA (or any Slayers terran) gives him a few pointers.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
July 13 2011 22:52 GMT
#1819
Who should I trade TheStC for? Byun or Puzzle?
Also, do you guys think I should trade MMA for Squirtle?
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
vrok
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden2541 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-13 23:12:53
July 13 2011 23:06 GMT
#1820
On July 13 2011 17:07 RPR_Tempest wrote:
SLoG has a good shot at taking GuMiho out, actually. All-kill is possible, but don't underestimate SLoG.

EDIT: If FXO plays their best they can actually take this. Observe:

SLoG vs GuMiho
tgun vs GuMiho
tgun vs Leenock
qxc vs Leenock
Oz vs Leenock
Oz vs choya/TopClass/asd
Oz vs sC

Hahahaha. Thanks for making me laugh.

I'm even thinking of trading MC for him short term, who is worth 16 points more at the moment, because I have no other players with enough points to trade for GuMiho. He's the single best player by far to go out against FXO so far and he's first so he'll probably all-kill as well. Especially with Sheth MIA.
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