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mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 13 2011 23:56 GMT
#1821
IMO from the plays we've seen so far GuMiho is definitely better than Hack and a bit better than Jjakji, although in the case vs FXO Jjakji might have a slight advantage because he seems to play so safe and standard and just wins by having better macro where I think GuMiho might play slightly more risky. Sure someone in FXO could take out GuMiho, I mean it is a best of one, but in likelyness GuMiho will get at least 3 kills.

I'm thinking about TheStc -> Byun trade as well, he's done pretty well recently, even taking out Nada in a TvT in code S. Plus I feel like MMA, GanZi, and Ryung are all on a bit of a slump and Taeja might actually do a bit better than them, so SlayerS terrans aren't looking in their best shape in the last few weeks.
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
July 14 2011 00:13 GMT
#1822
On July 14 2011 08:56 mrbamboo wrote:
IMO from the plays we've seen so far GuMiho is definitely better than Hack and a bit better than Jjakji, although in the case vs FXO Jjakji might have a slight advantage because he seems to play so safe and standard and just wins by having better macro where I think GuMiho might play slightly more risky. Sure someone in FXO could take out GuMiho, I mean it is a best of one, but in likelyness GuMiho will get at least 3 kills.

I'm thinking about TheStc -> Byun trade as well, he's done pretty well recently, even taking out Nada in a TvT in code S. Plus I feel like MMA, GanZi, and Ryung are all on a bit of a slump and Taeja might actually do a bit better than them, so SlayerS terrans aren't looking in their best shape in the last few weeks.


so I have one trade left after trading Guinea for GuMiHo. Is The StC-> Byun better or an MMA -> Squirtle swap?
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
July 14 2011 00:15 GMT
#1823
I'm so damn mad at myself for trading off Smart for HuK. Smart is one of TWO protoss players in TSL, and will probably get some playtime tomorrow. I'll pray to god he loses...
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 14 2011 00:17 GMT
#1824
On July 14 2011 09:13 Icectar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 08:56 mrbamboo wrote:
IMO from the plays we've seen so far GuMiho is definitely better than Hack and a bit better than Jjakji, although in the case vs FXO Jjakji might have a slight advantage because he seems to play so safe and standard and just wins by having better macro where I think GuMiho might play slightly more risky. Sure someone in FXO could take out GuMiho, I mean it is a best of one, but in likelyness GuMiho will get at least 3 kills.

I'm thinking about TheStc -> Byun trade as well, he's done pretty well recently, even taking out Nada in a TvT in code S. Plus I feel like MMA, GanZi, and Ryung are all on a bit of a slump and Taeja might actually do a bit better than them, so SlayerS terrans aren't looking in their best shape in the last few weeks.


so I have one trade left after trading Guinea for GuMiHo. Is The StC-> Byun better or an MMA -> Squirtle swap?


Holy crap I just made those trades too. I'd say StC-> Byun sounds better because both Byun and MMA are basically garunteed to come out (Byun 100% and when was the last GSTL that MMA DID'NT play in?). Squirtle might not come out at all
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
July 14 2011 00:45 GMT
#1825
So you guys are going with TheStC to Byun instead of Puzzle? Mind if I ask why?

I get that byun is guaranteed to play and will likely get 1-2 kills. But I don't see him getting much more than that. His TvZ is good, but enough to beat July? I doubt it. And of course he has like 0 chance of beating Bomber (obviously not 0... but very slim). So I feel the best case scenario for Byun is 2 wins and 4 points (+1 if ST wins).

Puzzle, I feel is in basically the same boat. He won't get more than 2 kills simply because there probably won't be more than 2 people left to kill. And he really can't beat both July and Bomber in a row, its mad unlikely. So with Puzzle I see a max of 2 kills + any streak bonus.

To me it seems like a toss up. With Puzzle you run the risk of Byun going on a streak and ZNX not needing Puzzle. But you get the added benefit of him most likely having to break someones streak (like he did last week with YoDa).

Thoughts? Or am I thinking too hard and I should just grab byun and stop being such a noob...
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 14 2011 01:25 GMT
#1826
The thing with Puzzle is he might not get used. For one Byun is in great form right now it seems, for another I see Puzzle as NEX's ace, so they'll play 2 more players between Byun and Puzzle. Not to mention Puzzle will play against harder opponents than Byun since Byun is starting.

Also I didn't trade TheStc -> Puzzle because I already have Puzzle. :D
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 14 2011 01:37 GMT
#1827
On July 14 2011 10:25 mrbamboo wrote:
The thing with Puzzle is he might not get used. For one Byun is in great form right now it seems, for another I see Puzzle as NEX's ace, so they'll play 2 more players between Byun and Puzzle. Not to mention Puzzle will play against harder opponents than Byun since Byun is starting.

Also I didn't trade TheStc -> Puzzle because I already have Puzzle. :D



Basically the same as this. Puzzle MIGHT play, Byun will play. And having Puzzle already makes it hard to trade for him
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
July 14 2011 01:41 GMT
#1828
well, just traded TheStC-> Byun because it seems like he could be good. MMA better play or I spent way to much on him
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 01:57:13
July 14 2011 01:55 GMT
#1829
I'm going to kill all of you if Puzzle cmoes on and gets 7 wins. Traded TheStC for Byun :p
Ertu
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece686 Posts
July 14 2011 01:56 GMT
#1830
Ok,so I trades TheBest for Sheth on my anti-team,but I do feel a little bad... I mean,shouldn't Sheth be taken out since he's not going back to Korea???
psi_blade
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore23 Posts
July 14 2011 03:17 GMT
#1831
On July 14 2011 10:55 DoomsVille wrote:
I'm going to kill all of you if Puzzle cmoes on and gets 7 wins. Traded TheStC for Byun :p


I'm in the same boat. I'm trading TheStc for Byun too
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 14 2011 06:21 GMT
#1832
Woohoo I made it to an official team liquid article. That's like, some kind of life achievement unlocked
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
July 14 2011 06:40 GMT
#1833
On July 14 2011 15:21 mrbamboo wrote:
Woohoo I made it to an official team liquid article. That's like, some kind of life achievement unlocked
Ha, awesome! That makes two of us :D

'Nexic, at 10th place, gets the "only person in the top 10 who didn't luck into an all-kill" award'
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 08:58:24
July 14 2011 08:24 GMT
#1834
On July 14 2011 15:40 Nexic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 15:21 mrbamboo wrote:
Woohoo I made it to an official team liquid article. That's like, some kind of life achievement unlocked
Ha, awesome! That makes two of us :D

'Nexic, at 10th place, gets the "only person in the top 10 who didn't luck into an all-kill" award'

That's quite a nice feat! Hopefully there won't be any more surprise all-kills!

I think I'm jumping on the Byun train as well, by the way. Happy -> Byun; I don't think we'll see as much of Happy in the future, and he hasn't really impressed me beyond the first GSTL games. I think I'll trade off Byun for an NSHS player (Tassadar perhaps?) next week, anyway.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Mr Mauve
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom386 Posts
July 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#1835
I just, just made top 100 last week and I will almost certainly drop out this week as I haven't made any trades.

I think all the most obvious trades discussed above (Byun, FoU - I have Gumiho) will lose value in the end and be difficult to back out of - but this is probably down to my imperfect courage, and I will lose my soul* as a result. Best of luck, everybody!

*points on offer for reference detection
Hello! How are you today?
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
July 14 2011 10:07 GMT
#1836
On July 14 2011 09:15 Fanta_Rules wrote:
I'm so damn mad at myself for trading off Smart for HuK. Smart is one of TWO protoss players in TSL, and will probably get some playtime tomorrow. I'll pray to god he loses...

If JYP (Smart) wins more than one game, I won't forgive myself.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 10:25:43
July 14 2011 10:10 GMT
#1837
Finally we get to see Smart in the GSTL, I hope I won't have to regret trading him on; since he's such a good player, he should do very well!

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Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
July 14 2011 12:16 GMT
#1838
I got one point today. ONE point.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 14 2011 12:24 GMT
#1839
On July 14 2011 21:16 Fanta_Rules wrote:
I got one point today. ONE point.

me too... should be a slow day of fantasy movement at the top
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-14 12:27:43
July 14 2011 12:25 GMT
#1840
On July 14 2011 21:16 Fanta_Rules wrote:
I got one point today. ONE point.

It's alright, man, week two I only got two points in total. :D I think I only got one point as well, by having JYP () on my team. Hopefully Byun, Puzzle, Squirtle and GuMiho will rake up some points tomorrow.

EDIT: Lol, I actually got 0 points, since I have Clide on my anti-team. I thank the gods that I traded SangHo away for Lyn on my anti before week two, though.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
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