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gerd1022
Profile Joined August 2010
United States58 Posts
July 11 2011 17:51 GMT
#1761
hmm... i traded GuineaPig for GuMiho, but i'm having a hard time deciding what to do for my second trade:

HuK > Lots
Don't know much about Lots, but he is a leadoff, and it seems like oGs is never going to play HuK...

imHappy > Byun
I think Byun could get at least a couple of kills, and IM isnt playing this week

Slayers > Fou
Fou is most like going to win at least 4-2, but i think Slayers will win as well, and I am keeping my points high then.

What do you guys think?
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
July 11 2011 17:53 GMT
#1762
On July 12 2011 02:35 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 02:27 MrCon wrote:
My team is MVP right now, I'm envisaging to trade it for FOU, but it's still a 14 points for a 7 points trade :x Not sure if it's smart.

I would do it.

MVP will never win by more than 4-2 or 4-3. They just aren't very strong besides DRG. At the absolute most, you're looking at 4 + 4 + 4 points from MVP. And most likely, it will be something around 8 points in total.

On the other hand, who is going to stop GuMiho from aking this week? Oz? I doubt he can beat GuMiho... which means fOu will get you 8 points in just this week...

Of course if you make the trade and fOu doesn't 4-0, the trade will probably backfire. But it seems like it will be worth it to me.

Yeah, the problem is that the schedule is bad for FOU after that, and FOU has a very low team value so I won't be able to trade them (or perhaps for FU ?) If FOU AK FXO, how much FOU's price will increase ?

The schedule :

FXOpen e-Sports vs Fou Our Utopia good chance of +8
Fou Our Utopia vs ZeNEX the problem is here...FOU a little weak vs protoss, it could go very bad (but also go well)
F.United vs Most Valuable Player
Most Valuable Player vs Prime
Fou Our Utopia vs StarTale
Most Valuable Player vs Team SCV Life

Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 20:19:29
July 11 2011 17:59 GMT
#1763
On July 12 2011 02:53 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 02:35 DoomsVille wrote:
On July 12 2011 02:27 MrCon wrote:
My team is MVP right now, I'm envisaging to trade it for FOU, but it's still a 14 points for a 7 points trade :x Not sure if it's smart.

I would do it.

MVP will never win by more than 4-2 or 4-3. They just aren't very strong besides DRG. At the absolute most, you're looking at 4 + 4 + 4 points from MVP. And most likely, it will be something around 8 points in total.

On the other hand, who is going to stop GuMiho from aking this week? Oz? I doubt he can beat GuMiho... which means fOu will get you 8 points in just this week...

Of course if you make the trade and fOu doesn't 4-0, the trade will probably backfire. But it seems like it will be worth it to me.

Yeah, the problem is that the schedule is bad for FOU after that, and FOU has a very low team value so I won't be able to trade them (or perhaps for FU ?) If FOU AK FXO, how much FOU's price will increase ?

The schedule :

FXOpen e-Sports vs Fou Our Utopia good chance of +8
Fou Our Utopia vs ZeNEX the problem is here...FOU a little weak vs protoss, it could go very bad (but also go well)
F.United vs Most Valuable Player
Most Valuable Player vs Prime
Fou Our Utopia vs StarTale
Most Valuable Player vs Team SCV Life



The tradevalue formula for teams are the same as for individual player:
TradeValue = ( GamesLeft * Salary / 5 + 5/9 * Score ) * GamesLeft

Currently fOu,
  • GL = 3, Score = 0, Salary = 4
  • TradeValue = ( 3 * 4 / 5 + 5/9 * 0 ) 3
  • TradeValue = 7.2


At the best case scenario where fOu 4-0 FXO, gaining 8pts,
  • GL=2, score=8, salary = 4
  • TradeValue = ( 2 * 4 / 5 + 5/9 * 8 ) 2
  • TradeValue = 12.09



fOu 4-0 -> 12.09
fOu 4-1 -> 9.87
fOu 4-2 -> 7.65
fOu 4-3 -> 5.43
fOu 3-4 -> 4.31
fOu 2-4 -> 3.20
fOu 1-4 -> 2.09
fOu 0-4 -> 0.98


Speaking of team trades, I am wondering if there's an optimal point where jumping off to F.United will be worthwhile. Since F.United is at an extremely cheap tradevalue of 5, it is theoretically possibly to jump from a reasonable team's last week straight to F.United after week 5.
Thank God and gunrun.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
July 11 2011 19:14 GMT
#1764
On July 12 2011 02:51 gerd1022 wrote:
hmm... i traded GuineaPig for GuMiho, but i'm having a hard time deciding what to do for my second trade:

HuK > Lots
Don't know much about Lots, but he is a leadoff, and it seems like oGs is never going to play HuK...

imHappy > Byun
I think Byun could get at least a couple of kills, and IM isnt playing this week

Slayers > Fou
Fou is most like going to win at least 4-2, but i think Slayers will win as well, and I am keeping my points high then.

What do you guys think?

If Nada would've lost vs Keen I'm 99% sure they would've sent out Huk next that game. Pretty sure we'll see Huk play.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 19:27:49
July 11 2011 19:27 GMT
#1765
Yes! GuMiho! Glad it payed off I didn't trade him for TheStc last week. What sucks, though, is that I thought I had the perfect anti-team now, with Sheth gone and FruitDealer and Trickster without a team, and now they're both still on one of the teams that has a whole lot of games left to play. -.-

Dammit, why couldn't FXO pick them up.
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
July 11 2011 20:32 GMT
#1766
well, traded Guinea for GuMiHo. This better pay off, unlike my last two trades . Also would help if MMA could get me some points :D
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
July 11 2011 21:44 GMT
#1767
damn it the only player I can trade for Gumiho is SC, what to do :/.
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
July 11 2011 22:48 GMT
#1768
do you guys think I should trade Hero for Lots?
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 11 2011 22:53 GMT
#1769
Is there a way to change the captain? Seems like putting my hopes in Sheth was a really bad idea.
vicious.e0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada31 Posts
July 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#1770
On July 11 2011 15:07 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 13:03 vicious.e0 wrote:
On July 11 2011 07:50 mrbamboo wrote:
OMG whyyyyyyy didn't I get PuMa with GuineaPig last week HE IS SO GOOD he's gonna reverse all kill every team TSL plays and never drop to enough trade value for me to get him #&$(&(&($&*(&$@


Yeah, but his weakest matchup is, by far, TvP. In order for PuMa to be successful against slayers he's going to have to take down Alicia, and possibly Frozen depending on well the team thinks his TvP is. You can be rest assured that SlayerS is preparing snipers to take down Alive and PuMa as the rest of their roster hasn't posted many significant results or even displayed many respectable games. Not to mention that with all the in-house practice of the SlayerS team there has to be at least a few that are VERY confident in the vs T matchup on multiple maps.

I think expecting 2 wins from PuMa next week is an optimistic prediction. That series will likely go 4-3 or 4-2 in SlayerS favor and PuMa isn't a good pick to have for this matchup.

The big point scorer for the next week is going to be whatever player gets the biggest streak from fOu against FXO.

I would say the same about ST but ZeNeX has really been posting results in both this season of GSTL and other korean-only tournaments. Byun and puzzle have also really shown impressive play. I wish I was more familiar with the rest of the likely players from their team to be able to make a good decision for this fantasy pool. All I can do is hope that July (an original pick of mine) sees some play and does well in the series. It's a very hard series to predict IMO...


I don't think beating Squirtle 2-1 and MC 4-3 makes TvP his worst match up. He's also beat HongUn 2-0, Sage 5-0, Younghwa 2-1, Puzzle 4-1, Tiger 2-0, all within the last 3 weeks. If anything I'd call that his best match up right now. I mean Alicia is PvT is very good but I wouldn't put PuMa at any sort of disadvantage right now. He just 2-0'd Min recently too who is the best zerg on SlayerS. I think it's all gonna come down to beating him in TvT with MMA/Ryung/GanZi. I think in the end SlayerS might take this week 4-3 actually. Which is good cause I want PuMa's value to drop so I can pick him up afterwards :D


Damn, I didn't realize PuMa had so many good results in that matchup; I should have done a bit more research before I said anything. All I saw were the replays from his match against ST_Tiger and I was pretty unimpressed. Oh well, I guess we'll see how he does this week ; )
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
July 11 2011 23:46 GMT
#1771
On July 12 2011 07:53 JustPassingBy wrote:
Is there a way to change the captain? Seems like putting my hopes in Sheth was a really bad idea.
Nope, that's kinda the point of a captain. Sheth definitely not a good choice.
Fall.182
Profile Joined September 2010
United States126 Posts
July 12 2011 00:15 GMT
#1772
how do not get how to sign up.. i followed the link but all it leads me to is a list of players.. sorry if this is off topic but could anyone help?
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
July 12 2011 00:33 GMT
#1773
On July 12 2011 09:15 Fall.182 wrote:
how do not get how to sign up.. i followed the link but all it leads me to is a list of players.. sorry if this is off topic but could anyone help?


signups already ended, GSTL season is already 3 weeks in. you'll have to wait till next season
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
Fall.182
Profile Joined September 2010
United States126 Posts
July 12 2011 00:34 GMT
#1774
On July 12 2011 09:33 Icectar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 09:15 Fall.182 wrote:
how do not get how to sign up.. i followed the link but all it leads me to is a list of players.. sorry if this is off topic but could anyone help?


signups already ended, GSTL season is already 3 weeks in. you'll have to wait till next season


oh.. when would next season start?
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 12 2011 01:21 GMT
#1775
On July 12 2011 09:34 Fall.182 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2011 09:33 Icectar wrote:
On July 12 2011 09:15 Fall.182 wrote:
how do not get how to sign up.. i followed the link but all it leads me to is a list of players.. sorry if this is off topic but could anyone help?


signups already ended, GSTL season is already 3 weeks in. you'll have to wait till next season


oh.. when would next season start?


There's 10 weeks of group play, last of which ends on first week of September. Then there's play offs. If they continue the system of syncing GSTL and GSL in parallel, I would guess season 2 would start in mid-late Octorber.
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 12 2011 01:34 GMT
#1776
Here is what I think I'm gonna do.
GuineaPig for GuMiho
Jjakji for July

Since fOu will win they will be > 5 trade value so I can get F.United as my team on week six. Yes I know they aren't likely to score big points but fOu would only have 2 games left so it's still the best option for me.

Next week I can trade TheStc for Tassadar who is a beast, and trade Sage to pick up Naniwa. The only exception is if I could get whoever IM is starter vs FXO that week instead of getting Tassadar, but I already have YoungHwa and Happy so I might not even have to trade for that!

This will leave me with
DRG
Puzzle
GuMiho
Happy
Younghwa
Tassadar
Naniwa
July

for the last 5 weeks of group play. I don't think I'll be needing too much trading after that point other than phasing out players that have only 1 game left before they become value 0.
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 01:46:19
July 12 2011 01:43 GMT
#1777
Do you guys think Alicia for GuMiho is a good trade? I don't want to trade Alicia but Alicia/PuMa are my only players with high enough value, and if GuMiho picks up a potential all-kill I will be left in the dust (I'm rank #10 atm). I don't really expect Alicia to rack up a ton of kills on TSL.

my current team:

DongRaeGu
PuMa
IMHappy
Alicia
Puzzle
Younghwa
TheStC
Ace
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
July 12 2011 02:50 GMT
#1778
On July 12 2011 10:43 Nexic wrote:
Do you guys think Alicia for GuMiho is a good trade? I don't want to trade Alicia but Alicia/PuMa are my only players with high enough value, and if GuMiho picks up a potential all-kill I will be left in the dust (I'm rank #10 atm). I don't really expect Alicia to rack up a ton of kills on TSL.

my current team:

DongRaeGu
PuMa
IMHappy
Alicia
Puzzle
Younghwa
TheStC
Ace


It seems like a reasonable trade. Since both slayers and fou are playing this week, depends on the results you may able to switch back to Alicia before week 6.
Thank God and gunrun.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 04:10:55
July 12 2011 04:05 GMT
#1779
I need to pick up someone for sculp..... so undecided, he was a huge bust.

Currently sitting on
StarTale
DongRaeGu
GuMiho
PuMa
Alicia
Younghwa
ThorZaIN
Lots
Sculp

I'm trying to decide between Soccer, Hero, Huk, or maybe Creator as to who could actually get played and get points. Help?

--------------

Also big decision on my anti team... I have Boxer currently. I completely did not expect him to play, and now I'm worried. Their next game he'll be at MLG, but this week is so risky...
BoxeR 10.84

Any thoughts on one of these as an anti?
Jjakji NSH
Curious ST
Fenix F.U
HongUn PRM
InCa OGS
Maka PRM
Min SLR
San NSH
RainBOw ST
RevivaL TSL
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
July 12 2011 04:30 GMT
#1780
I'm liking my position at the moment. Nobody above me has MC, so I just need him to come through big when he gets back to Korea. Hopefully the rest of OGS continues to struggle.

Wish I could pick up Thorzain with someone besides DRG though, probably should have gotten him last week. My Revival->STC trade hurt a lot.
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