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sYstim
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada161 Posts
August 31 2011 12:28 GMT
#2781
hmm i think im the highest person without drg on their team lol rank 47 atm
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 13:17:34
August 31 2011 13:14 GMT
#2782
On August 31 2011 21:28 sYstim wrote:
hmm i think im the highest person without drg on their team lol rank 47 atm

On August 31 2011 13:30 DoomsVille wrote:
Well regardless of how this season turns out... pretty happy considering I was stupid enough not to grab DRG. Highest placing of all the idiots that didn't grab him :D

15th place so far with a ton of room for trades this week (5 active players + oGs).


And I'm rank #67 without ever having him as well. Good job though

Also, thoughts on Gumiho for Cezanne? Bomber has me scared leading off (not likely players on fou will get any points) but there's trade tax and it's the last week...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
AmICool
Profile Joined June 2011
Bulgaria15 Posts
August 31 2011 13:22 GMT
#2783
everything or nothing those 2 points may cost me 50 places but might make me in top 5 aswell TSL ftw
Power of the Swarm
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 31 2011 14:35 GMT
#2784
I just realized I'm the only one in top 100 with over -20 points from their anti-team XD
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
August 31 2011 15:11 GMT
#2785
On August 31 2011 22:14 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 21:28 sYstim wrote:
hmm i think im the highest person without drg on their team lol rank 47 atm

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 13:30 DoomsVille wrote:
Well regardless of how this season turns out... pretty happy considering I was stupid enough not to grab DRG. Highest placing of all the idiots that didn't grab him :D

15th place so far with a ton of room for trades this week (5 active players + oGs).


And I'm rank #67 without ever having him as well. Good job though

Also, thoughts on Gumiho for Cezanne? Bomber has me scared leading off (not likely players on fou will get any points) but there's trade tax and it's the last week...


I traded Supernova for Cezzane. Given Moon's ZvZ, it's almost a sure bet for 2 points. Trading Gumiho though? Hmm, Bomber or not there's a good chance Gumiho will play.

My hopes this week, aside from the usual DRG shenanigans which don't help many people in the higher level anyway, is that GuineaPig will have a run, Cezzane will get a good number of kills and asd gets at least 1 kill. This is my hope. Most likely Cezzane and DRG will be my only points this week, that will doubtfully move me up far though.

Tempted to trade GuineaPig for Clide...not sure if that's worth it though. Clide is a good bet to land 2 points, but he hasn't impressed me lately...and GP is random, and thus auto-vote in my books...But still, a tempting notion. Dunno if it's worth trading GP out for someone else also...
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 31 2011 15:18 GMT
#2786
Be wary of MVP not using DRG this week... he just got back from MLG and they dont have much reason to play him before the playoffs.... That being said... he could come out 2nd lol so this isn't a set in stone prediction
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
August 31 2011 15:44 GMT
#2787
lead of players announced yet?
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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 31 2011 16:40 GMT
#2788
The more I think about it, the less I think Smart is a good choice. You just know TSL is saving him for DRG. They won't use him until DRG comes out.

If Clide wins, the smartest move for MVP is to bring out DRG. So then Smart comes out after. If he wins, he is such an easy person to snipe (keen, noblesse... any terran). So he gets 1 kill and no streak bonus.

If Clide loses, then TSL probably brings out sangho or aLive against monster. Again, if it's aLive, same situation as with Clide winning above. If it's sangho, MVP isn't bringing out DRG. They will likely use Keen and then DRG after that (then they can still win 4-2 and not risk putting DRG against a toss). This is Smart's best chance for scoring big points. But at best he gets 2 wins and no streak bonus.

Basically, best I realistically see him doing is getting 1 kill with no streak bonus by killing DRG. And he's facing DRG... good chance he loses.

I probably won't trade for smart.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 31 2011 16:40 GMT
#2789
On September 01 2011 00:44 Welmu wrote:
lead of players announced yet?

See page 138.
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 18:05:33
August 31 2011 18:03 GMT
#2790
On September 01 2011 01:40 DoomsVille wrote:
The more I think about it, the less I think Smart is a good choice. You just know TSL is saving him for DRG. They won't use him until DRG comes out.

If Clide wins, the smartest move for MVP is to bring out DRG. So then Smart comes out after. If he wins, he is such an easy person to snipe (keen, noblesse... any terran). So he gets 1 kill and no streak bonus.

If Clide loses, then TSL probably brings out sangho or aLive against monster. Again, if it's aLive, same situation as with Clide winning above. If it's sangho, MVP isn't bringing out DRG. They will likely use Keen and then DRG after that (then they can still win 4-2 and not risk putting DRG against a toss). This is Smart's best chance for scoring big points. But at best he gets 2 wins and no streak bonus.

Basically, best I realistically see him doing is getting 1 kill with no streak bonus by killing DRG. And he's facing DRG... good chance he loses.

I probably won't trade for smart.
I was thinking something similar to be honest. My other thought is that even if Smart does okay, someone like maze (and others) already have DRG + Smart and other active players or oGs/MVP/ST as their team, and I won't have a shot with such few active players anyway. I'm thinking I probably need to pick up MC or StC and just pray something happens lol. I would rather just go for an outside win for the hell of it than play it safe to finish out things out.

I was really banking on trading Soccer for Cezzane, but I forgot FUnited plays like every week lately, so now he's worth 0.71 lol I think I'm pretty much out, but things turned out okay since my initial strategy was banked on investing IM and they did completely terrible, lol.

I think your team looks pretty damn good going into the final week, if DRG were a non-factor than you would be in a really strong position. Nice pick on StC, I wanted to pick him up a few weeks back but didn't have the available trade value. I'm surprised he didn't go out last week. Any insight on who I should think about picking up this week?
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 31 2011 18:16 GMT
#2791
I probably should append this week's piece by saying that the assumption that DRG is a non-factor rests on no-one will be crazy enough to trade him away. Let's suppose someone would, trade him out to say Bomber. In that case, it's very possible that, if DRG falters and Bomber all-kills, the fantasy leaderboard would go completely bonkers.
Thank God and gunrun.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 31 2011 18:55 GMT
#2792
On September 01 2011 03:16 Primadog wrote:
I probably should append this week's piece by saying that the assumption that DRG is a non-factor rests on no-one will be crazy enough to trade him away. Let's suppose someone would, trade him out to say Bomber. In that case, it's very possible that, if DRG falters and Bomber all-kills, the fantasy leaderboard would go completely bonkers.

This is something I think some of the players at the top should do. You aren't going to win by relying on DRG anymore. You need to take a risk.

And if there is ever a time that DRG will falter, it is now. TSL has the perfect lineup to take him down. Two very strong protosses that are excellent in PvZ (sangho and smart). And a decent ZvZ zerg (RevivaL). Most other teams just have a long list of terrans that can't do a thing to DRG. And TSL has taken the GSTL extremely seriously. They will have a very clear plan for DRG.

On the other hand, pretty much the only thing stopping Bomber from all-killing is Leenock. Give Leenock a strong zerg map (Bel'shir) and he could take down Bomber. But if he doesn't... fOu doesn't stand a chance. As long as they don't put Leenock on a huge macro map (like terminus or tal'darim) where Bomber can macro like a god it will be a good fight.

Personally if I was someone that was sitting in 2-5th on the leaderboard, and you didn't have much else to bring you to the top, I would trade DRG for Bomber and go all-in.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 31 2011 19:02 GMT
#2793
On September 01 2011 03:03 Nexic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:40 DoomsVille wrote:
The more I think about it, the less I think Smart is a good choice. You just know TSL is saving him for DRG. They won't use him until DRG comes out.

If Clide wins, the smartest move for MVP is to bring out DRG. So then Smart comes out after. If he wins, he is such an easy person to snipe (keen, noblesse... any terran). So he gets 1 kill and no streak bonus.

If Clide loses, then TSL probably brings out sangho or aLive against monster. Again, if it's aLive, same situation as with Clide winning above. If it's sangho, MVP isn't bringing out DRG. They will likely use Keen and then DRG after that (then they can still win 4-2 and not risk putting DRG against a toss). This is Smart's best chance for scoring big points. But at best he gets 2 wins and no streak bonus.

Basically, best I realistically see him doing is getting 1 kill with no streak bonus by killing DRG. And he's facing DRG... good chance he loses.

I probably won't trade for smart.
I was thinking something similar to be honest. My other thought is that even if Smart does okay, someone like maze (and others) already have DRG + Smart and other active players or oGs/MVP/ST as their team, and I won't have a shot with such few active players anyway. I'm thinking I probably need to pick up MC or StC and just pray something happens lol. I would rather just go for an outside win for the hell of it than play it safe to finish out things out.

I was really banking on trading Soccer for Cezzane, but I forgot FUnited plays like every week lately, so now he's worth 0.71 lol I think I'm pretty much out, but things turned out okay since my initial strategy was banked on investing IM and they did completely terrible, lol.

I think your team looks pretty damn good going into the final week, if DRG were a non-factor than you would be in a really strong position. Nice pick on StC, I wanted to pick him up a few weeks back but didn't have the available trade value. I'm surprised he didn't go out last week. Any insight on who I should think about picking up this week?

MC probably is a good bet this week actually. I know he's hungry to get a rematch with ThorZain. If ThorZain comes out after Moon, I pretty much guarantee MC comes out next. If I had GuMiho or RevivaL I'd probably trade one of them for MC.

This is also why I don't really like TheStC this week. Although I won't trade him because if they don't bring out MC it will probably be TheStC.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 31 2011 19:10 GMT
#2794
On September 01 2011 03:16 Primadog wrote:
I probably should append this week's piece by saying that the assumption that DRG is a non-factor rests on no-one will be crazy enough to trade him away. Let's suppose someone would, trade him out to say Bomber. In that case, it's very possible that, if DRG falters and Bomber all-kills, the fantasy leaderboard would go completely bonkers.


Take a look to see how many have DRG captain'd up
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
August 31 2011 19:14 GMT
#2795
On September 01 2011 04:10 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 03:16 Primadog wrote:
I probably should append this week's piece by saying that the assumption that DRG is a non-factor rests on no-one will be crazy enough to trade him away. Let's suppose someone would, trade him out to say Bomber. In that case, it's very possible that, if DRG falters and Bomber all-kills, the fantasy leaderboard would go completely bonkers.


Take a look to see how many have DRG captain'd up
Pretty much this, if he wasn't my captain I'd definitely gamble on DRG -> Bomber
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
August 31 2011 19:17 GMT
#2796
Godemp, minomino, xxxxxxxxxxxxxb, and AmiCool do not have Bomber and have DRG as their Captain

Maze and Geno have DRG and Bomber already

Everyone else has DRG captain and no bomber

GLHF
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 19:36:55
August 31 2011 19:18 GMT
#2797
Teams with DRG as captain: mrbamboo nexic pretensile GenoPewPew Mattchew MidnightSun001 Toganas manicshock

Teams without DRG as captain: godemperor ((P)MC) maze. ((T)Bomber) MinoMino ((P)Alicia) xxxxxb ((Z)BBoongBBoong) AmICool ((T)LosirA) ZasZ. ((T)LosirA) oursblanc ((Z)Sheth) doomsville ((Z)July) Archerylady ((T)Bomber) mocavious sam ((T)Bomber) danana ((T)LosirA)

godemperor shouldn't trade DRG. He's the king-in-waiting and as long as there's no major upsets, he'll win the fantasy. Those outside the top-10 (excluding archerylady) are probably those where a gamble like this may be worth while, it's pretty much the only move that can make up 10 points in differential at this stage.
Thank God and gunrun.
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 19:36:06
August 31 2011 19:33 GMT
#2798
I don't agree with godemp being the favorite, he has fOu as his team so if they get all-killed he loses points. Plus anti-points from trickster if ST wins, but a lot of people probably have that. Personally I'm betting on maze to win with team MVP + bomber/DRG/smart. Godemp is dependent on whether MC plays and how well he does.
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
August 31 2011 19:39 GMT
#2799
On September 01 2011 03:16 Primadog wrote:
I probably should append this week's piece by saying that the assumption that DRG is a non-factor rests on no-one will be crazy enough to trade him away. Let's suppose someone would, trade him out to say Bomber. In that case, it's very possible that, if DRG falters and Bomber all-kills, the fantasy leaderboard would go completely bonkers.


If DRG wasn't my captain I'd do the DRG -> Bomber trade too. Wasn't really thinking at the beginning when I set my captain. Should've captained Younghwa, the one player I never traded.

Smart is not a good choice to trade for, but it is not worth trading him away either if you already got him. I can't think of anyone that can reliably make up for Smart's potential 1 kill or so + the trade tax. Cezanne is a gamble on him getting more than 1 kill. Might be worth it only if you are sure Smart won't get any points at all.

I think the chance of me winning is probably only 15%.

If Bomber all kills maze beat's me. But I have a 9 point lead on him so even if bomber only gets 3 kills I might have a chance at edging him out if his other players don't score points. (we both have smart). However i would need MVP to not win by more than 4-3 against TSL since maze also got MVP as their team. Not looking that great. I think this guy wins with a likelihood of 75% or so. Damn Bomber! I could hope TSL destroying MVP so he loses points on MVP team. :D.

godemperor got a great chance with so many oGs players, if any one of his oGs player wins a game he can tie up the score with me unless Smart gets points for me. It's a shame he traded away Bomber last week, or he'd win for sure.

Nexic's chance of beating me isn't too high. Either GuMiho or whoever he trades GuMiho for will need to get big points. However Noblesse could surprise everyone with some points too.

This pretensile person got a nice chance too with GuMiho, TheStc, Noblesse, and ST as his team. If Bomber all kills and the other players get him some points he would be able to barely edge out the 10 point deficit he has behind me.

GenoPewPew got a bit of point deficit to catch up but he got Bomber, GuineaPig, Thorzain, Ace, and Hero. I can easily see them getting 15ish points together. These players are all on different team so he's got some guaranteed team win points and possibly some player wins. It all comes down to bomber to close up the point gap first before his other supporting players can push him to the win though.

Everyone else has got more than 10 points behind so they'd need more than one all kills on their active players to catch up and don't have bomber. Can they do it? It's possible, but not super likely.

Conclusion? So many ways for other people to surpass me. I am scared.

Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
August 31 2011 20:11 GMT
#2800
=( I am sorry. Please don't kill the messenger.
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