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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 20:25:20
August 31 2011 20:21 GMT
#2801
On September 01 2011 04:39 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 03:16 Primadog wrote:
I probably should append this week's piece by saying that the assumption that DRG is a non-factor rests on no-one will be crazy enough to trade him away. Let's suppose someone would, trade him out to say Bomber. In that case, it's very possible that, if DRG falters and Bomber all-kills, the fantasy leaderboard would go completely bonkers.


If DRG wasn't my captain I'd do the DRG -> Bomber trade too. Wasn't really thinking at the beginning when I set my captain. Should've captained Younghwa, the one player I never traded.

Smart is not a good choice to trade for, but it is not worth trading him away either if you already got him. I can't think of anyone that can reliably make up for Smart's potential 1 kill or so + the trade tax. Cezanne is a gamble on him getting more than 1 kill. Might be worth it only if you are sure Smart won't get any points at all.

I think the chance of me winning is probably only 15%.

If Bomber all kills maze beat's me. But I have a 9 point lead on him so even if bomber only gets 3 kills I might have a chance at edging him out if his other players don't score points. (we both have smart). However i would need MVP to not win by more than 4-3 against TSL since maze also got MVP as their team. Not looking that great. I think this guy wins with a likelihood of 75% or so. Damn Bomber! I could hope TSL destroying MVP so he loses points on MVP team. :D.

godemperor got a great chance with so many oGs players, if any one of his oGs player wins a game he can tie up the score with me unless Smart gets points for me. It's a shame he traded away Bomber last week, or he'd win for sure.

Nexic's chance of beating me isn't too high. Either GuMiho or whoever he trades GuMiho for will need to get big points. However Noblesse could surprise everyone with some points too.

This pretensile person got a nice chance too with GuMiho, TheStc, Noblesse, and ST as his team. If Bomber all kills and the other players get him some points he would be able to barely edge out the 10 point deficit he has behind me.

GenoPewPew got a bit of point deficit to catch up but he got Bomber, GuineaPig, Thorzain, Ace, and Hero. I can easily see them getting 15ish points together. These players are all on different team so he's got some guaranteed team win points and possibly some player wins. It all comes down to bomber to close up the point gap first before his other supporting players can push him to the win though.

Everyone else has got more than 10 points behind so they'd need more than one all kills on their active players to catch up and don't have bomber. Can they do it? It's possible, but not super likely.

Conclusion? So many ways for other people to surpass me. I am scared.



be careful for I lurk with balls to the walls trades that will almost definiatly lead to my demise or win me to the league

aka - I made trades I would never normally make but all I care about is winning so I have nothing to lose really
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
August 31 2011 20:43 GMT
#2802
On September 01 2011 05:21 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 04:39 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 01 2011 03:16 Primadog wrote:
I probably should append this week's piece by saying that the assumption that DRG is a non-factor rests on no-one will be crazy enough to trade him away. Let's suppose someone would, trade him out to say Bomber. In that case, it's very possible that, if DRG falters and Bomber all-kills, the fantasy leaderboard would go completely bonkers.


If DRG wasn't my captain I'd do the DRG -> Bomber trade too. Wasn't really thinking at the beginning when I set my captain. Should've captained Younghwa, the one player I never traded.

Smart is not a good choice to trade for, but it is not worth trading him away either if you already got him. I can't think of anyone that can reliably make up for Smart's potential 1 kill or so + the trade tax. Cezanne is a gamble on him getting more than 1 kill. Might be worth it only if you are sure Smart won't get any points at all.

I think the chance of me winning is probably only 15%.

If Bomber all kills maze beat's me. But I have a 9 point lead on him so even if bomber only gets 3 kills I might have a chance at edging him out if his other players don't score points. (we both have smart). However i would need MVP to not win by more than 4-3 against TSL since maze also got MVP as their team. Not looking that great. I think this guy wins with a likelihood of 75% or so. Damn Bomber! I could hope TSL destroying MVP so he loses points on MVP team. :D.

godemperor got a great chance with so many oGs players, if any one of his oGs player wins a game he can tie up the score with me unless Smart gets points for me. It's a shame he traded away Bomber last week, or he'd win for sure.

Nexic's chance of beating me isn't too high. Either GuMiho or whoever he trades GuMiho for will need to get big points. However Noblesse could surprise everyone with some points too.

This pretensile person got a nice chance too with GuMiho, TheStc, Noblesse, and ST as his team. If Bomber all kills and the other players get him some points he would be able to barely edge out the 10 point deficit he has behind me.

GenoPewPew got a bit of point deficit to catch up but he got Bomber, GuineaPig, Thorzain, Ace, and Hero. I can easily see them getting 15ish points together. These players are all on different team so he's got some guaranteed team win points and possibly some player wins. It all comes down to bomber to close up the point gap first before his other supporting players can push him to the win though.

Everyone else has got more than 10 points behind so they'd need more than one all kills on their active players to catch up and don't have bomber. Can they do it? It's possible, but not super likely.

Conclusion? So many ways for other people to surpass me. I am scared.



be careful for I lurk with balls to the walls trades that will almost definiatly lead to my demise or win me to the league

aka - I made trades I would never normally make but all I care about is winning so I have nothing to lose really


Heh I'm in the same boat (#10) but I don't really think I have a chance with only 1 week left.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 31 2011 21:28 GMT
#2803
On September 01 2011 00:11 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 22:14 mordek wrote:
On August 31 2011 21:28 sYstim wrote:
hmm i think im the highest person without drg on their team lol rank 47 atm

On August 31 2011 13:30 DoomsVille wrote:
Well regardless of how this season turns out... pretty happy considering I was stupid enough not to grab DRG. Highest placing of all the idiots that didn't grab him :D

15th place so far with a ton of room for trades this week (5 active players + oGs).


And I'm rank #67 without ever having him as well. Good job though

Also, thoughts on Gumiho for Cezanne? Bomber has me scared leading off (not likely players on fou will get any points) but there's trade tax and it's the last week...


I traded Supernova for Cezzane. Given Moon's ZvZ, it's almost a sure bet for 2 points. Trading Gumiho though? Hmm, Bomber or not there's a good chance Gumiho will play.

My hopes this week, aside from the usual DRG shenanigans which don't help many people in the higher level anyway, is that GuineaPig will have a run, Cezzane will get a good number of kills and asd gets at least 1 kill. This is my hope. Most likely Cezzane and DRG will be my only points this week, that will doubtfully move me up far though.

Tempted to trade GuineaPig for Clide...not sure if that's worth it though. Clide is a good bet to land 2 points, but he hasn't impressed me lately...and GP is random, and thus auto-vote in my books...But still, a tempting notion. Dunno if it's worth trading GP out for someone else also...

Well my goal is to get top #100. I have only one player left to play this week, Gumiho, so he's my only option. I may just keep it with him and hope FXO stops that monster.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
August 31 2011 23:06 GMT
#2804
Honestly, it'll come down to Bomber and if Hero even sees play this time around. If my Hero pick ends up not failing me, I think I can win. There's just so much luck involved. This race is a lot tighter than what I imagined, I didn't even think I would be competing for the top of all of TL but rather the other leagues I was in
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
~Maverick~
Profile Joined July 2010
United States234 Posts
August 31 2011 23:17 GMT
#2805
Well, my only player will now be Bomber, so I'm not too sure whether I will be able to get top 25, but hopefully I at least stay in the top 50
#roadto5kmmr
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
August 31 2011 23:26 GMT
#2806
I think I got cursed by the front page lol. Anyway, it was a hell of a season
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
August 31 2011 23:54 GMT
#2807
I put everything on last week and got absolutely owned. >_<

One damn point.... I really, really made a mistake thinking that F.United was a good team to swap to. Sigh.
sYstim
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada161 Posts
September 01 2011 00:16 GMT
#2808
On August 31 2011 22:14 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 21:28 sYstim wrote:
hmm i think im the highest person without drg on their team lol rank 47 atm

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 13:30 DoomsVille wrote:
Well regardless of how this season turns out... pretty happy considering I was stupid enough not to grab DRG. Highest placing of all the idiots that didn't grab him :D

15th place so far with a ton of room for trades this week (5 active players + oGs).


And I'm rank #67 without ever having him as well. Good job though

Also, thoughts on Gumiho for Cezanne? Bomber has me scared leading off (not likely players on fou will get any points) but there's trade tax and it's the last week...


youre right! damnit now im 3rd highest hahaha MrBorto is above me too
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
September 01 2011 01:06 GMT
#2809
On September 01 2011 05:21 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 04:39 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 01 2011 03:16 Primadog wrote:
I probably should append this week's piece by saying that the assumption that DRG is a non-factor rests on no-one will be crazy enough to trade him away. Let's suppose someone would, trade him out to say Bomber. In that case, it's very possible that, if DRG falters and Bomber all-kills, the fantasy leaderboard would go completely bonkers.


If DRG wasn't my captain I'd do the DRG -> Bomber trade too. Wasn't really thinking at the beginning when I set my captain. Should've captained Younghwa, the one player I never traded.

Smart is not a good choice to trade for, but it is not worth trading him away either if you already got him. I can't think of anyone that can reliably make up for Smart's potential 1 kill or so + the trade tax. Cezanne is a gamble on him getting more than 1 kill. Might be worth it only if you are sure Smart won't get any points at all.

I think the chance of me winning is probably only 15%.

If Bomber all kills maze beat's me. But I have a 9 point lead on him so even if bomber only gets 3 kills I might have a chance at edging him out if his other players don't score points. (we both have smart). However i would need MVP to not win by more than 4-3 against TSL since maze also got MVP as their team. Not looking that great. I think this guy wins with a likelihood of 75% or so. Damn Bomber! I could hope TSL destroying MVP so he loses points on MVP team. :D.

godemperor got a great chance with so many oGs players, if any one of his oGs player wins a game he can tie up the score with me unless Smart gets points for me. It's a shame he traded away Bomber last week, or he'd win for sure.

Nexic's chance of beating me isn't too high. Either GuMiho or whoever he trades GuMiho for will need to get big points. However Noblesse could surprise everyone with some points too.

This pretensile person got a nice chance too with GuMiho, TheStc, Noblesse, and ST as his team. If Bomber all kills and the other players get him some points he would be able to barely edge out the 10 point deficit he has behind me.

GenoPewPew got a bit of point deficit to catch up but he got Bomber, GuineaPig, Thorzain, Ace, and Hero. I can easily see them getting 15ish points together. These players are all on different team so he's got some guaranteed team win points and possibly some player wins. It all comes down to bomber to close up the point gap first before his other supporting players can push him to the win though.

Everyone else has got more than 10 points behind so they'd need more than one all kills on their active players to catch up and don't have bomber. Can they do it? It's possible, but not super likely.

Conclusion? So many ways for other people to surpass me. I am scared.



be careful for I lurk with balls to the walls trades that will almost definiatly lead to my demise or win me to the league

aka - I made trades I would never normally make but all I care about is winning so I have nothing to lose really


With a 12 point deficit and no bomber you're gonna need some sick trades to pull this one off . Good luck.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 01 2011 01:17 GMT
#2810
On September 01 2011 10:06 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 05:21 Mattchew wrote:
On September 01 2011 04:39 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 01 2011 03:16 Primadog wrote:
I probably should append this week's piece by saying that the assumption that DRG is a non-factor rests on no-one will be crazy enough to trade him away. Let's suppose someone would, trade him out to say Bomber. In that case, it's very possible that, if DRG falters and Bomber all-kills, the fantasy leaderboard would go completely bonkers.


If DRG wasn't my captain I'd do the DRG -> Bomber trade too. Wasn't really thinking at the beginning when I set my captain. Should've captained Younghwa, the one player I never traded.

Smart is not a good choice to trade for, but it is not worth trading him away either if you already got him. I can't think of anyone that can reliably make up for Smart's potential 1 kill or so + the trade tax. Cezanne is a gamble on him getting more than 1 kill. Might be worth it only if you are sure Smart won't get any points at all.

I think the chance of me winning is probably only 15%.

If Bomber all kills maze beat's me. But I have a 9 point lead on him so even if bomber only gets 3 kills I might have a chance at edging him out if his other players don't score points. (we both have smart). However i would need MVP to not win by more than 4-3 against TSL since maze also got MVP as their team. Not looking that great. I think this guy wins with a likelihood of 75% or so. Damn Bomber! I could hope TSL destroying MVP so he loses points on MVP team. :D.

godemperor got a great chance with so many oGs players, if any one of his oGs player wins a game he can tie up the score with me unless Smart gets points for me. It's a shame he traded away Bomber last week, or he'd win for sure.

Nexic's chance of beating me isn't too high. Either GuMiho or whoever he trades GuMiho for will need to get big points. However Noblesse could surprise everyone with some points too.

This pretensile person got a nice chance too with GuMiho, TheStc, Noblesse, and ST as his team. If Bomber all kills and the other players get him some points he would be able to barely edge out the 10 point deficit he has behind me.

GenoPewPew got a bit of point deficit to catch up but he got Bomber, GuineaPig, Thorzain, Ace, and Hero. I can easily see them getting 15ish points together. These players are all on different team so he's got some guaranteed team win points and possibly some player wins. It all comes down to bomber to close up the point gap first before his other supporting players can push him to the win though.

Everyone else has got more than 10 points behind so they'd need more than one all kills on their active players to catch up and don't have bomber. Can they do it? It's possible, but not super likely.

Conclusion? So many ways for other people to surpass me. I am scared.



be careful for I lurk with balls to the walls trades that will almost definiatly lead to my demise or win me to the league

aka - I made trades I would never normally make but all I care about is winning so I have nothing to lose really


With a 12 point deficit and no bomber you're gonna need some sick trades to pull this one off . Good luck.


I did exactly that *i hope*
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
September 01 2011 01:18 GMT
#2811
lol I looked at it more, I have to seriously hope that everyone plays and one all kill to win this thing. Going to take a miracle
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-01 01:37:08
September 01 2011 01:35 GMT
#2812
On September 01 2011 10:18 GenoPewPew wrote:
lol I looked at it more, I have to seriously hope that everyone plays and one all kill to win this thing. Going to take a miracle
You're better off than you think man lol. You have 6 active players! One of the better lineups out of those in contention as well. Obviously Bomber is Bomber, and Hero/Thorzain/GuineaPig/etc all have a probable shot of playing.
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
September 01 2011 01:55 GMT
#2813
Welp, I'm not trading anyone. I'm going to stick with the guys I had all season and see it through.
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
spunkey
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9 Posts
September 01 2011 02:39 GMT
#2814
Trading DRG for bomber and hoping DRG wont be played because of MLG. Also have aLive and GuMiho, along with FXOkorea. Not sure if I should trade GuMiho for MC or FXO for oGs, assuming bomber allkills gumiho will score me no points and FXO will lose me 2. Either trade will net me the same amount of points in the best case scenarios(Cezanne lose and MC allkill,10 points-2 from FXO for 8 points, or cezanne allkills for 8 points) I feel like getting oGs is a safer bet since theres no guarantee that MC will play and a better chance of oGs winning with very few losses.
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
September 01 2011 03:12 GMT
#2815
lol, would trade, but the only guys i have left on my roster playing are GuMiHo and SocceR. not that it matters anyways, since i'm rank 900 atm. To Next Fantasy GSTL!!! :D
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
September 01 2011 04:50 GMT
#2816
This is going to be a crazy leaderboard
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 01 2011 05:18 GMT
#2817
Alright. 4 hours for me to study the teams, make a few intelligent trades and get a few hours of rest before they get going tonight

Anyone got any last minute dark horse picks?
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
September 01 2011 05:34 GMT
#2818
It depends, you might want a MVP player but idk the standings exactly. Otherwise, if MVP decides to use more than 1 code S player you would have to think its Genius or Keen only because its getting really deep into the season
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
September 01 2011 09:17 GMT
#2819
Sleep be damn, I am liveblogging the fantasy results

First up, a reminder of the fantasy scoring system

Scoring
+ Show Spoiler +
Player Scoring:
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Game Win: +2 Points per win
Game Loss: -1 Point
2-Game Streak Break: +1 Point**
3-Game Streak Break: +2 Points**
Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point***

Tie-breaks are decided by the team captain's score.

*Point given just for appearing in a match, regardless of win or loss. Only counts once, i.e. if MC goes 4-0, he still only gets 1 appearance point.
**Given when a pro-gamer defeats a pro-gamer on the opposing team who is on a two or three game winning streak. Streaks do not carry over between matches; all streaks must occur in the same match.
***This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match.

Team Scoring:
4-0 Victory: 8 Points
4-1 Victory: 6 Points
4-2 Victory: 4 Points
4-3 Victory: 2 Points
3-4 Defeat: 1 Point
2-4 Defeat: 0 Points
1-4 Defeat: -1 Points
0-4 Defeat: -2 Points

Miscellaneous
Trade Tax: -1
Thank God and gunrun.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
September 01 2011 09:28 GMT
#2820
On September 01 2011 18:17 Primadog wrote:
Sleep be damn, I am liveblogging the fantasy results

First up, a reminder of the fantasy scoring system

Scoring
+ Show Spoiler +
Player Scoring:
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Game Win: +2 Points per win
Game Loss: -1 Point
2-Game Streak Break: +1 Point**
3-Game Streak Break: +2 Points**
Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point***

Tie-breaks are decided by the team captain's score.

*Point given just for appearing in a match, regardless of win or loss. Only counts once, i.e. if MC goes 4-0, he still only gets 1 appearance point.
**Given when a pro-gamer defeats a pro-gamer on the opposing team who is on a two or three game winning streak. Streaks do not carry over between matches; all streaks must occur in the same match.
***This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match.

Team Scoring:
4-0 Victory: 8 Points
4-1 Victory: 6 Points
4-2 Victory: 4 Points
4-3 Victory: 2 Points
3-4 Defeat: 1 Point
2-4 Defeat: 0 Points
1-4 Defeat: -1 Points
0-4 Defeat: -2 Points

Miscellaneous
Trade Tax: -1


Top-19 teams that will be affected by F.United vs oGs:

-5 godemperor has MC, hero, luvsic, soccer
-7 Nexic has soccer
-8 maze has hero
-10 pretensile has TheSTC
-11 GenoPewPew has Thorzain, hero
-12 xxxxxxb has NaNiwa, TOP
-14 Zasz. has Hero
-17 Toganas has Soccer
-18 oursblanc has oGs
-18 Doomsville has oGs, TheSTC, Soccer
-19 Archerylady has Hero, luvsic
Thank God and gunrun.
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