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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
June 17 2011 00:13 GMT
#41
Not a bad number of responses given that this topic has been around for 5-6 hours.

I do find it interesting that there are more match-up participants than there are people answering what race they play. =P
Grapefruit
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany439 Posts
June 17 2011 13:33 GMT
#42
On June 17 2011 09:13 aksfjh wrote:
I do find it interesting that there are more match-up participants than there are people answering what race they play. =P


I think that was to be expected. I'm just wondering why not more Toss players chose Terran, seeing as early stim timings and MMM pushes hit really hard.
Starcraft 2 is funny, everybody picks the race, which he considers to be the weakest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
TheFrankOne
Profile Joined December 2010
United States667 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 13:38:25
June 17 2011 13:37 GMT
#43
On June 17 2011 22:33 Grapefruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 09:13 aksfjh wrote:
I do find it interesting that there are more match-up participants than there are people answering what race they play. =P


I think that was to be expected. I'm just wondering why not more Toss players chose Terran, seeing as early stim timings and MMM pushes hit really hard.



They don't hit that hard, if you have a few sentries and a couple upgrades or a collosus or two out even without range you can hold them pretty well.
Zerum
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden348 Posts
June 17 2011 13:44 GMT
#44
my option for most satisfying way to win is not listed... it's when my opponent doesn't lose because he is stupid. this still happens allot in diamond but then I also lose because of that often :S
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
June 17 2011 13:48 GMT
#45
On June 17 2011 22:44 Zerum wrote:
my option for most satisfying way to win is not listed... it's when my opponent doesn't lose because he is stupid. this still happens allot in diamond but then I also lose because of that often :S


Don't we all.

It's quite rare that both players execute they're plan to the letter and one barely comes out on top.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
June 17 2011 14:07 GMT
#46
That's a lot of Diamond and Master league players

I did like how the Terran/Protoss both generally feel that Zerg are the hardest race to play. I'm a random player, and I generally agree that I find Zerg the hardest to face, across the board.

Then again, statistically my worse match-up is a mirror match-up. Guess that comes with the territory because I try to play all 3 races as opposed to understanding a single race fully.
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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 14:47:19
June 19 2011 14:45 GMT
#47
This poll kinda helps explain the feeling that there aren't many Terrans outside of GSL. I mean, if you look around at discussion threads, featured streams, strategy threads, etc., you rarely come across Terrans on TL. I remember doing a tally a few weeks ago on featured threads, and Protoss and Zerg each have 5-10 more featured streamers than Terran.
Grapefruit
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany439 Posts
June 28 2011 22:54 GMT
#48
Bumping to get some more votes in.
Starcraft 2 is funny, everybody picks the race, which he considers to be the weakest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
GhostFall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States830 Posts
June 28 2011 22:57 GMT
#49
zerg and protoss players don't like each other lol
skatbone
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1005 Posts
June 29 2011 00:10 GMT
#50
On June 17 2011 23:07 Hassybaby wrote:
That's a lot of Diamond and Master league players

I did like how the Terran/Protoss both generally feel that Zerg are the hardest race to play. I'm a random player, and I generally agree that I find Zerg the hardest to face, across the board.

Then again, statistically my worse match-up is a mirror match-up. Guess that comes with the territory because I try to play all 3 races as opposed to understanding a single race fully.


I've seen this logic before regarding randoms. Having played 2k games as random, one of my best MUs is PvP, I'm pretty good at ZvZ, and decent at TvT. Why do people claim that mirror MUs should be more difficult for random players?

Regarding the polls, I play to get better and I sometimes stress about it. But I only have so much time to play as work, gf, etc. are important to me. I didn't feel that that question covered my approach to the game.
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PopcornColonel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States769 Posts
June 29 2011 00:23 GMT
#51
On June 29 2011 09:10 skatbone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 23:07 Hassybaby wrote:
That's a lot of Diamond and Master league players

I did like how the Terran/Protoss both generally feel that Zerg are the hardest race to play. I'm a random player, and I generally agree that I find Zerg the hardest to face, across the board.

Then again, statistically my worse match-up is a mirror match-up. Guess that comes with the territory because I try to play all 3 races as opposed to understanding a single race fully.


I've seen this logic before regarding randoms. Having played 2k games as random, one of my best MUs is PvP, I'm pretty good at ZvZ, and decent at TvT. Why do people claim that mirror MUs should be more difficult for random players?

I'm random as well. I don't have any problems with mirror matchups - they're usually my strongest (except TvT). However, I have huge problems with playing against Terrans. I find their capabilities to hold positions (siege tanks, turrets, marines) ridiculous. The fact that all Terran units are incredibly cost effective doesn't help my frustration against Terrans.

It might be a mental thing, I don't know.
Zerg delenda est.
faulty
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada204 Posts
June 29 2011 00:36 GMT
#52
nice to see im not the only T struggling in TvZ lol
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Sayer
Profile Joined August 2009
United States403 Posts
June 29 2011 00:51 GMT
#53
For me ZvP creates the most frustrating and helpless moments, and feels like there are so many different ways to lose. This of course is due to it being my worst matchup.
densha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States797 Posts
June 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#54
I'm actually surprised how few Zergs seem to list their worst MU as ZvT. I feel like in ZvT it's just so difficult to secure an advantage. MULEs negate a lot of harassment damage, marines are super powerful and cost efficient, drops are devastating, blue flame roasts a mineral line in seconds, etc. Combined with the fact that T has the most diverse, effective builds and you have a difficult task ahead of you as a Zerg player IMO.

At least against 'Toss and Zerg I feel like I can tell when I'm ahead or behind and can tell exactly why I lost a certain game, etc. Against Terran it's just an uphill battle fighting against a superior economy, superior defense, and hyper effective units.

If you voted ZvP or ZvZ as your worst MU, what about ZvT makes you feel more comfortable than either of those two?
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Shirolol
Profile Joined April 2010
England504 Posts
June 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#55
Interesting to see the results of this! Strange that i'm one of the few that hate TvT.
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Tazerenix
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 01:09:25
June 29 2011 01:05 GMT
#56
Race: Protoss
Worst Matchup: P v Z
League: Diamond
APM: Usually 150-200, if I'm spamming lots and concentrating it'll be in 200-250
SC:BW? Yes, but not online (apart from FMP)
Hours per Week: Usually 4-8, in the holidays a lot more.
Improving: I try but don't stress too much
Best Way to Win: Any way is good, but I rage when I get cheesed : (
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Hoon
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil891 Posts
June 29 2011 01:15 GMT
#57
Poll: What's your main race?
1048 total votes
Zerg (361)
Protoss (348)
Terran (260)
Random (79)

Poll: For Zergs: What's your hardest match-up?
531 total votes

Poll: For Protoss: What's your hardest match-up?
435 total votes

Poll: For Terrans: What's your hardest match-up?
359 total votes


hmmm.
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It's OK that you can have an off-race, but I think that voting on other's polls seems kinda wrong, lol.
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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
June 29 2011 01:21 GMT
#58
The hardest 2 match up's for TL are TvZ and PvZ, sounds about right!
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Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
June 29 2011 01:23 GMT
#59
Lol, I hate to be mainstream, but with this poll I noticed I'm totally mainstream -_-'

Anyways, I like this post. It's idfferent from the just general "LOLRACEPOLL", this one includes much more depth
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StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
June 29 2011 01:25 GMT
#60
No wonder every other post is a pro-Idra post!
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