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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
June 16 2011 19:14 GMT
#21
that "the best way to win" question didn't include "cheese that induces bm/ragequit" as an option
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
June 16 2011 19:17 GMT
#22
Is this Poll asking for ingame or real apm? Mine is just around 200 real apm most games so I voted 200-250 because there is nowhere to go but up
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
June 16 2011 19:17 GMT
#23
Terran, hardest TvP
1400 Masters
Played SC, but only FMP
75-100 APM
4-8 hours
Reach GM
Any win
Only Ladder
Try to improve but don't stress

sorry they're out of order ^^
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 16 2011 19:18 GMT
#24
In game apm.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Fadetowhite
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)302 Posts
June 16 2011 19:23 GMT
#25
main race: Zerg
hardest mu: ZvP
league: GM
avg APM: >250
played BW: yes
Hours: 12-16
you: Try to improve but no stress
best way to win: outmacro
Ladder or Custom: Custom
goal: Play for fun

chill question:
it is asking ......What is the way that gives me the best change to win!

Hope this helps
메신저
SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
June 16 2011 19:29 GMT
#26
I hope I did it right, since I'm random I answered all three MU questions. hopefully more people answer, it'll be interesting to see the results!
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 16 2011 19:34 GMT
#27
Yeah this'll actually be a great thread if 1000 people post their stuff. Otherwise it'll be like the what maps do you veto thread and have far too small of a sampling to be accurate.

main raceerg
hardest mu: ZvT
league: Plat
avg APM: 150
played BW: yes (2002)
Hours 12-16
you: recently dedicated training hard.
best way to win: macro
ladder or custom: ladder
goal: become best player I can be
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
serge
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Russian Federation142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 19:40:58
June 16 2011 19:40 GMT
#28
I knew it, most of TL is diamond zerg.

+ Show Spoiler +
I play random (but main terran) at very high masters level.
Hardest matchups as all 3 races:
ZvZ
TvZ
PvZ

apm 150+ as terran and zerg, 100 as protoss.

Played bw since release.

Best way to win is by outsmarting with a solid timing attack. Find a time where your opponent is the weakest, and perfect your build to peak at that time, then allin at that time. Most satisfying wins, your opponent rages.

Almost never custom.
I am Malkovich.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 16 2011 20:12 GMT
#29
On June 17 2011 03:59 Thobrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 03:50 Chill wrote:
Poll: The question "The best way to win is..." is asking

What is the most satisfying way for you to win? (93)
 
68%

What is the way that gives you the best chance to win? (20)
 
15%

at is the most satisfying way for the average player to win? (20)
 
15%

What is the way that gives the average player the best chance to win? (3)
 
2%

136 total votes

Your vote: The question "The best way to win is..." is asking

(Vote): What is the way that gives you the best chance to win?
(Vote): What is the way that gives the average player the best chance to win?
(Vote): What is the most satisfying way for you to win?
(Vote): at is the most satisfying way for the average player to win?



Sorry about #4, my copy/paste skills are lacking I guess.


umm... what is going on in this post if I might ask?


The question what is the best way to win was pretty vague and could be interpreted many ways.
SwirlQ
Profile Joined February 2011
United States148 Posts
June 16 2011 20:15 GMT
#30
Race: Zerg
Hardest Mu: ZvP
League: Masters
Avg APM: 150-200
Played BW: yes
Hours: recently 28+
You: schools out so dedicated training hard
best way to win: macro( safe consistent style )
ladder or custom: ladder( custom is prefered but ladder is more accessible )
goal: become pro
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
June 16 2011 20:16 GMT
#31
Best way to win is by challenging yourself. Win any way that will make you a better gamer. This means, for me, I think cheese is silly and a waste of time.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
Grapefruit
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany439 Posts
June 16 2011 23:44 GMT
#32
It really baffles me how little the average TLer plays, not that it's different for me but I thought there were more people who spend more time on SC.
Starcraft 2 is funny, everybody picks the race, which he considers to be the weakest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wipples
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada269 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 23:47:30
June 16 2011 23:47 GMT
#33
On June 17 2011 08:44 Grapefruit wrote:
It really baffles me how little the average TLer plays, not that it's different for me but I thought there were more people who spend more time on SC.

That "time played" poll has less than 400 votes. There are several thousand members of TL. The rest of them are busy playing starcraft
ploy
Profile Joined January 2006
United States416 Posts
June 16 2011 23:47 GMT
#34
Interesting that zergs say they struggle against toss the most, while toss are saying they struggle vs zerg the most.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
June 16 2011 23:48 GMT
#35
Why so many zergs lol?
NighT1133
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom86 Posts
June 16 2011 23:52 GMT
#36
On June 17 2011 08:47 Wipples wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 08:44 Grapefruit wrote:
It really baffles me how little the average TLer plays, not that it's different for me but I thought there were more people who spend more time on SC.

That "time played" poll has less than 400 votes. There are several thousand members of TL. The rest of them are busy playing starcraft


Plus probably half lie, to make themselves look better "Im diamond but i only have time for 2hours a week" etc, in a lot of cases is rubbish
Fun fun fun and it's not even Friday.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 16 2011 23:52 GMT
#37
I thought that ZvP/PvZ is my hardest matchup was cute too.

As far as a zerg perspective goes, I'd say the 3/3/3 deathray colossus sentry stalker ball haunts your dreams.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
June 16 2011 23:54 GMT
#38
Race: Protoss
Hardest Mu: PvZ
League: Masters
Avg APM: 125-150
Played BW:no
Hours: <4
best way to win: macro
ladder or custom: custom
Try to improve but don't stress
Master Sc2 - Diamond LoL - Eu W
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
June 16 2011 23:57 GMT
#39
On June 17 2011 08:52 Probe1 wrote:
I thought that ZvP/PvZ is my hardest matchup was cute too.

As far as a zerg perspective goes, I'd say the 3/3/3 deathray colossus sentry stalker ball haunts your dreams.

Then you wake up with your pet infestors sleeping by your feet.
:D
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 00:12:02
June 17 2011 00:11 GMT
#40
I'm just going to shut my mouth before I derail the thread with late game zvp theorycrafting.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
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