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Kreig
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany79 Posts
June 16 2011 08:13 GMT
#81
Rooting for team Zerg all the way regardless of nationality

If a german player is playing and it's a match without Z, I usually root for the german player. Not because I'm especially patriotic but I think a strong national scene helps making SC2 become more popular in that country.
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SweetenemY
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany136 Posts
June 16 2011 08:15 GMT
#82
TOP5 SC2 players:

Socke
HasuObs
DarKFoRcE
Go0dy
ClouD (yes i know he is italian, but he tried to pronounce "Streichholzschächtelchen" correctly - so he is almost german O_o
Skill is, when luck gets a matter of habit
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 08:54:48
June 16 2011 08:17 GMT
#83
I support Protoss in any game. However, there are some exceptions. If in any game my favorite players are playing, I will root for them even if it has Protoss as the opponent. Those people are IdrA, WhiteRa, QXC, BoxeR, NaDa, July etc.
End my suffering
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 08:19:18
June 16 2011 08:18 GMT
#84
I'm Australian. But you don't have to be to see that mOOnGLaDe is ridiculously sexy.

But yeah, I always cheer for local players. Filthy and tgun playing in GSTL wooo!

EDIT: I also always support FXO players (the American ones) because of how much FXO has done for the SEA scene.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6230 Posts
June 16 2011 08:18 GMT
#85
On June 16 2011 13:05 Leyra wrote:
You're right though that a lot of folks who aren't "patriotic" just default to "lololkoreans da best". Personally, I just like players for who they are and the style the play, not their country of origin! There's plenty of the "patriotic" type around though.


This is from the front page, but I have to respond. It drives me crazy when people make comments like that, as though using a stupid tone to reiterate a position you disagree with is a substitute for a valid argument. Koreans are, in general, the best. I'm not sure how you can claim otherwise.

Being a perfectionist, as I'm sure a ton of people here are, I like the best players to succeed as that
tends to produce the best matches. Naturally, then, I support a lot of Korean players. Plus, I think the whole MLG thing is tempered by the fact that a lot of people just really don't like Idra, whether they're from America or not.

Whoever said people tend to be highly patriotic about their race is dead on, as well. That plays a really big role.
(Max 20 chars)
Profile Joined March 2011
149 Posts
June 16 2011 08:29 GMT
#86
I think AustinCM missunderstands quite a lot. This has nothing at all to do with patriotism.
It's just cheering for good players. The best players. And if the come from one country over the past 10 years...who cares. Then it is just that way. It's pretty irrelevant where that country is or what people call it.

Just imagine the best palyers would come from 50 different countries completely even balanced. So what? People would still cheer for the best and love to see good matches. I think hardly anyone really cares where on the planet their mother pressed the players out of her uterus.

It's all about the players and not a bit about a country.
Civzero
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada14 Posts
June 16 2011 08:35 GMT
#87
Why would you cheer for a player just because they happened to be born in the same country as you? Why not cheer for a player that has a style you like, or you like their decision-making. Or just cheer for good play in general regardless of which player is the one executing it.

Better yet, cheer for Losira because he looks like a cute little ewok.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
June 16 2011 08:35 GMT
#88
On June 16 2011 16:32 Tofugrinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 16:16 Big J wrote:
gogogo austrian progamers... hm wait... there are no

so what? fuck it

what's important is the skill and/or the personality of a progamer not the fuckin country




just making a joke man, Im not one of this wanna-be-nazis we are having troubles with in our country.

I also don't think the nationality should matter, yet I do think, that things like international championships would be awesome and I would surely cheer for an austrian team, if there was one.
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 08:45:40
June 16 2011 08:42 GMT
#89
On June 16 2011 17:35 _civ_ wrote:
Why would you cheer for a player just because they happened to be born in the same country as you? Why not cheer for a player that has a style you like, or you like their decision-making. Or just cheer for good play in general regardless of which player is the one executing it.

Better yet, cheer for Losira because he looks like a cute little ewok.


Why would cheering for someone because of their skills be better than cheering for them because their of your nationality? If you only want people to cheer for skills you'll never get non-gamers into esports. This mindset on TL is something that remains from BW and I don't like it. My non SC friends would never watch korean vs. korean, or european vs. europan. They have watched swede vs. foreigner and swede vs. swede because they can relate and they liked it.

If you like starcraft to remain on TL and reddit and never really hit mainstream, that's fine, but you shouldn't look down upon people who cheer for players because of nationality.

I can watch FC Barcelona vs Manchester United in football because I know their skills is exeptional, but Sweden vs. Denmark will still get more viewers on national television.
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
June 16 2011 08:47 GMT
#90
I almost always cheer Terran first, but I always hope to see foreigners do well when they play against Koreans just because seeing the underdog win is fun, and it's nice to see 'us' be competitive.

but when you get someone like MMA who has been so completely exciting to watch, it's hard to cheer against him even when he plays a hometown hero like idra. so in those types of games I just hope for some entertainment.
Stroke Me Lady Fame
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 16 2011 08:51 GMT
#91
I am a THE patriotic fan. I haven't missed a single event/match when somebody played from my country in a big league.
I had a good night of sleep.
Snettik
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland186 Posts
June 16 2011 08:57 GMT
#92
When Finland won Sweden in ice hockey and won the world championship people ran over the border to Sweden and burned flags of Sweden :D I think nationalism is good for SC2.
Fluffet
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden47 Posts
June 16 2011 08:57 GMT
#93
I root for Swedish players at all times, of course!!
I am only really happy when Swedish players and White-Ra win important matches :D (The latter because he is so goddamn awesome and nice)
More fluff to the people
Anomandaris
Profile Joined July 2010
Afghanistan440 Posts
June 16 2011 08:58 GMT
#94
On June 16 2011 17:51 Koshi wrote:
I am a THE patriotic fan. I haven't missed a single event/match when somebody played from my country in a big league.

Surely you must be joking. Belgian players never participate outside of benelux, or a big international league.
Iskover
Profile Joined October 2010
United States21 Posts
June 16 2011 09:02 GMT
#95
The only great American player is IdrA and he's not exactly the poster child of a professional e-sports athlete. I'm half Asian, so that's a good enough reason to root for the Koreans
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Alver
Profile Joined November 2010
United States177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 09:14:36
June 16 2011 09:08 GMT
#96
i think when people from random countries root for koreans i dont think its so much wanting koreans to win as the best players to win.

ive only met a korean irl 2 times but my top 5 players are all koreans right now. i basically like their team houses and work ethic so much i can tolerate them knowing 90% less english than europeans usually know.

i always root for idra for the first half of a tournament till he gives away games and drops out.

also, from the sounds of posts in this thread, the way europe is setup makes it much easier for international competition there. less teams per country, countries very close together. in the us we have like 30 teams for each sport and we mostly play ourselves, occasionally canadians. also some of our states are more like european countries size/distance wise. east coast and west coast are more far apart than many european countries so sometimes we dont have as much national pride and more state pride (outside of the biggest events like the olympics). this definately doesnt apply to all sports equally or everyone, but i think this is a bit of the difference between eu/us cheering.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
June 16 2011 09:09 GMT
#97
The way I look at it is that I support the players that I like and know. I am a fan of a lot of foreign players more just because I do not get to watch the Korean players nearly as often, so I do not know many of them that well. If all else is equal though, I will generally root for the NA or Foreign player just because they are the underdog.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 09:12:53
June 16 2011 09:10 GMT
#98
On June 16 2011 13:03 AustinCM wrote:
Now lately I have noticed that no matter where you're from everyone loves the Korean Starcraft players. it is because of their tremendous skill and root in Starcraft and also how dedicated they are and I really commend them for this.

But, it seems that not too many people are actually that patriotic about their own countrie's players. Personally I am thrilled everytime a Canadian player gets the win over some other big name, like KiWi or HuK but it doesn't seem this way for everyone. I am a huge huge huge IdrA fan and also really like NesTea but I was wondering why people don't root for their own country as much as they root for the Korean to win no matter what match it is or where it is. Instead of many Americans being really happy that IdrA was the only contender against Koreans they chose to be negative about it and put the Koreans on a pedestal instead.

Maybe I get the wrong idea but what do you guys think? Do you think a lot of eSports fans are patriotic?

Kind of hard to be when your fav players definitely come outside your country most of the time.

And for me, I'm finn, do you really think I would care Naama that much? Finland isn't only country with no many good players

E: I think nationalism should be cut from eSports for good. (Like from everything.)
E2: WHY should I be biased because of the country you were born? I root for korean if he deserves it as a person.
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Flowtax
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands42 Posts
June 16 2011 09:15 GMT
#99
I dislike Grubby... He's dutch yeah.... But i dunno... I dont like him. He should stick with WCIII
In the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.
XiaN
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany162 Posts
June 16 2011 09:19 GMT
#100
I root for players based on their play style / clan or personality, but for the most part i don't know their country .. and couldn't care less about it.
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