Root for your heroes durrrr; just dont be all gaga (like chenchen ^) over a Korean because their "the best." Groups of people who play with each other constantly will obviously have a better chance.

I root AGAINST the Koreans that think they autowin because of their race; isnt that called, like, racism, or something?

Suc

Australia1569 Posts

June 16 2011 05:07 GMT

#44

On June 16 2011 13:58 Arterial wrote:
australia....has.....

Moonglade, tgun, some others and in bw we had Legionnaire.

Edit: As for the OP, the foreign community seems to have tonnes of patriotism, noticeable in any Korea vs World matches and yeah, at MLG, there were some obvious USA chants.

Ocedic

United States1808 Posts

June 16 2011 05:10 GMT

#45

On June 16 2011 13:28 wongisgreat wrote:
No one chooses where they're born so it's foolish to be proud of it.

Basically this. Also, people don't seem to understand the accomplishments of others has little to do with your own skill.

For example, right now the top players of EU are very good, basically almost if not equal to a lot of top Korean players. North America's pro scene, on the other hand, is in a sad state. However, that doesn't mean that if you're Korean or European, you're automatically superior to all North Americans. Even as a whole, the European and North American ladders are really not that different (many people do consider Korean ladder the hardest though.)

Misanthrope

United States924 Posts

June 16 2011 05:11 GMT

#46

Methinks this is only from your limited experience. Every time I watch a tourney with friends we root for Californian>USA>foreigner.

dpL

Sweden571 Posts

June 16 2011 05:18 GMT

#47

On June 16 2011 14:10 Ocedic wrote:

Show nested quote +

Basically this. Also, people don't seem to understand the accomplishments of others has little to do with your own skill.

Elaborate on this. Do you think people cheer for countrymen in order to boost their own ego? If so, what do you base it on?

Steelavocado

United States2123 Posts

June 16 2011 05:20 GMT

#48

I, myself, have sc2 patriotism. As an american I will first cheer for IdrA(favorite player), but if he gets knocked out, I hope that any other american takes the event. If all of the americans are knocked out, then I cheer for the NA players(Canada, Peru, etc.), then europeans, then last but not least, Koreans. When it comes to these American made proleagues, I take CatZ's viewpoint. TBH I want to see large prize pool tournys like IPL that are purely/nearly all NA player filled. I feel like a win of an american born player is a win for americans in general, and a win for western esports.

Just my opinion, thanks for reading!

L3gendary

Canada1470 Posts

June 16 2011 05:21 GMT

#49

Because I should cheer for someone because they happen to reside within an arbitrarily defined region that I also happen to be in? Granted ive never considered myself patriotic. Even when watching the olympics I was more interested in watching Chinese table tennis players, the Jamaican Usain Bolt, and American Michael Phelps rather than Canadians getting a bronze in some boring rowing event.

Kava

Canada65 Posts

June 16 2011 05:22 GMT

#50

I've been a fan of Huk since I saw him play at blizzcon and was like O_O a canadian player?! NICE!

Keeping full in mind that I hate toss as a race, they are annoying. But apparently being a canadian transcends that for me. HUK FIIIIGHTING!

Engore

United States1916 Posts

June 16 2011 05:23 GMT

#51

I'm from the US and i personally wish all our players would smash any other player into the ground then pull them out and catapult them onto the moon and blow it up with a nuclear warhead. But i'm an American and sometimes our patriotism is a little over the edge.

I like to see all players do well really. But i like it when USA players win. Like when IdrA was playing in MLG Colum. I wanted him to kick the Koreans ass to try and prove we can beat them. Sadly that only happened one time.

If no person from the USA is in it that i like then i usually just root for whoever i like best. SeleCT is a hard one because he is Korean but lives in the USA. I like to consider him one of ours but i can't

i still <3 him though.

All players are awesome though!! <3 ESPORTS!!

Dearion

Denmark26 Posts

June 16 2011 05:27 GMT

#52

I always root for action jesus! How can you not?

Fingulfin

United States110 Posts

June 16 2011 05:36 GMT

#53

I'm patriotic for all foreigners, does that count?

Seriously though, country has very little to do with whether or not I like a player. The most influencing factor is probably their behavior outside of games (I love IdrA, MC, Naniwa etc because they are personalities). Race (zerg fighting!), play-style and the ability to provide epic games are probably the other big things that I base my liking of a player off of. Lesser influencing factors would be Dark Horse stories (Jookto in the super tournament), players who just stand out (leenock for his age, MKP for being MKP, etc), foreigners get automatic bonus points and success in tournaments effects likeability.

A.J.

United States209 Posts

June 16 2011 05:40 GMT

#54

I'm extremely patriotic when it comes to American players vs any other country, but I feel like it's Koreans vs Foreigners for most others.

dpL

Sweden571 Posts

June 16 2011 05:42 GMT

#55

On June 16 2011 14:27 Dearion wrote:
I always root for action jesus! How can you not?

ActionJesus transcends nationality, ethnicity and time itself. He sixpooled straight into our hearts.

Rabiator

Germany3948 Posts

June 16 2011 05:55 GMT

#56

Excessive patriotism is always BAD and this excess is easily reached. Since patriotism is a "Yes or No" thing there isnt much to say about it. If you root for player X just because he was born in your country and not because you like his style of play that is patriotism, but it also means you are basing your decision purely on one emotion.

As emotions go that is one of the worst to base your decisions on, because there is no way to argue for / against something due to the black and white character of it. Personally I prefer to give my brain the biggest weight in who / what to like and who to despise, because I like the definition of "human" in Frank Herbert's book DUNE. Only if you are able to override your emotions and instincts are you truly a human, otherwise you are simply an animal.

As a german there arent that many players to root for and patriotism doesnt play any role in it. I like TLO because he thinks outside the box, tries wild things and is really funny when he casts and I like Goody because I like mech. Other than that I dont have any german favorites to root for and many of them are hidden in that obscure german Starcraft league which I dont watch anyways.

bovineblitz

United States314 Posts

June 16 2011 05:59 GMT

#57

Personally I like individual players, I don't care where they're from.

On June 16 2011 14:55 Rabiator wrote:

As emotions go that is one of the worst to base your decisions on, because there is no way to argue for / against something due to the black and white character of it. Personally I prefer to give my brain the biggest weight in who / what to like and who to despise, because I like the definition of "human" in Frank Herbert's book DUNE. Only if you are able to override your emotions and instincts are you truly a human, otherwise you are simply an animal.

+infinity points for referencing Dune

ectonym

United States147 Posts

June 16 2011 06:08 GMT

#58

Where is the "America, fuck yea!" ?

The chant of USA, USA, lasted for like 2 rounds of USAishness...is that all you got Ohio?

edit: added the characters "ishness"

FrozenFrotie

Singapore156 Posts

June 16 2011 06:09 GMT

#59

In my books,

Skill >>>>> nationality.

Tofugrinder

Austria899 Posts

June 16 2011 07:12 GMT

#60

fuck nationalists. I always get angry and immediately turn off the stream (or just recently dont watch the german casters anymore) when casters are "patriotic" aka fuckin nationalists when one of "their" country is playing