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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
June 13 2011 13:04 GMT
#441
My personal constructive criticism for tasteless: Continue being awesome.
Thanks
VL-Orion
Profile Joined April 2011
Indonesia78 Posts
June 13 2011 13:07 GMT
#442
I agree that maybe tasteless should abandon the "sex" thing because like it or not they are the face of starcraft 2 on the foreign scene and we want starcraft 2 to go mainstream.
Some elitist nerds out there may not want sc2 to go mainstream but seriously becoming mainstream means better games, bigger tournaments and probably even live tv for sc2?(finger crossed).

That being said i am a big fan of tartosis , I know its not easy taking a somewhat unorthodox profession in life to do the things that you love keep up the good work!.
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"
Yiska
Profile Joined November 2010
141 Posts
June 13 2011 13:13 GMT
#443
On June 13 2011 14:13 julianto wrote:
I don't agree, and, actually, I hate Artosis's casting instead for sounding cocky and interrupting Tasteless.
Oftentimes Artosis will try to make Tasteless sound like he's gloating.
For example, "no one's better at laddering than you, Tasteless".
I know it's sarcasm, but he does this so much.

Artosis also has the habit of adding "Tasteless" at the end of every other sentence. It sounds cocky. It sounds like he's talking to a child.
"That is quite true, Tasteless."
"Indeed that is true, Tasteless."
"And that will do a lot of damage, Tasteless."
"You know, Tasteless, ...."
He does this way more frequently than other casters.

I do hear Tasteless giving analysis on the game, but Artosis' demeanor and Tasteless' humility can exaggerate the perception that "Artosis is so smart about SC2" and "Tasteless doesn't know what he's talking about".


You do realize that adding the name is meant to indicate that he's done talking, right?

Artosis for me personally is by far the best caster currently. Nobody gets this genuinely excited as he does and is as hilarious at it at the same time.

http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/vod/65228

Look at this VoD and tell me otherwise.
MasterJack
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada215 Posts
June 13 2011 13:14 GMT
#444
Who actually gets offended by the mention of sex? We're not talking about rape ... has anyone in the last 10 years who contributed anything to the advancement of society ever been offended by sex? There's a group of people on here who think someone is being offended somewhere. IMO, if anyone does get offended by sex, they aren't playing SC2/watching video game streams and are probably locked up in a secluded sect somewhere.

If you have kids and don't want them hearing about sex ... well anyone under 13 shouldn't be playing SC2 anyways... and if you're worried about anyone over 13 hearing about sex, you fail as a parent and as a person.
Un[r]eal
Profile Joined August 2010
United States66 Posts
June 13 2011 13:48 GMT
#445
I feel constructive criticism is fine to mention in a thread. IF these are areas that can be improved upon Tasteless might try to make a concious effort to improve in these areas. I personally have not noticed this but I haven't really looked for it either.

To the OP, maybe to strengthen your case you could point to specific VOD's that would show what you're talking about.

Also, I remember hearing Tasteless say he stays away from the TL forums. I skimmed through this thread so if anything above does not hold true please don't hurt me ^^
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 14:22:20
June 13 2011 14:20 GMT
#446
Tasteless is awesome.

Tastosis is the best casting duo.

hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
June 13 2011 14:27 GMT
#447
i don't listen to Nick and Dan to hear a boring play by play i listen to them because they are entertaining, with other commentators i will only watch matches that involve my race (Zerg), however with Tasteless and Artosis i find myself listening to almost everything they cast... and do you wanna know why! because they are very entertaining to listen to! So i wouldn't give any criticism to tasteless he should the poster boy for all casters to follow and aspire to be!
Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit
anomaly0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States21 Posts
June 13 2011 14:28 GMT
#448
I don't find repetition all that bad to be honest. It's just what he is comfortable with and it does aptly describe what he is attempting to portray to the audience. Moreover it is what Tasteless as a commentator is comfortable with.

On the topic of "Tasteless interrupting Artosis" thing is a bit unfounded. It is evident that an event occurred where you believe Artosis was saying something important and then Tasteless interrupted him with something less important. Well if that is truly the case than nothing stopped Artosis from continuing. So if anything it's Artosis's fault for not simply continuing to convey his thought to the audience.
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
June 13 2011 14:50 GMT
#449
Tasteless needs to continue to be a baller, and i just find him hilarious
Flash Fan!
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
June 13 2011 15:46 GMT
#450
On June 13 2011 20:36 Tiazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 03:43 Let it Raine wrote:
tastosis is the most entertaining caster duo

but honestly I found day9 more intense at MLG.


/agree


Ya, just listen to his improvised solo cast during the final TSL game. Sooooo good. ^^
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
June 13 2011 15:48 GMT
#451
i love how they dissed the haters in this thread just now.

'OH NO TASTELESS YOU SAID BALLS, YOU'RE RUINING ESPORTS!'
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
Dariusz
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland657 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 16:05:47
June 13 2011 16:02 GMT
#452
On June 12 2011 15:08 pc_room_freak wrote:
I'm a big fan of tastosis, but does anybody else find tasteless slightly inexperienced as a caster?
(inexperienced as in, making rookie mistakes, not his actual experience)
I don't know about him being commentator in bw, but from the gsl's i noticed he's

1.) overly repetitive in diction- for example
"he's so SOLID", "he's playing so GOOD", "it's going to be so COOL". I don't understand why he can't use... more descriptive words whenever he's trying to add something to the cast. Not only that, he just constantly overuses these words, making him sound like a broken record sometimes. It's weird since he seems quite articulate in casual settings.

2.) cuts Artosis off too frequently, at the wrong times
-only to add "he's so GOOD"
Artosis is the commentator, let him get technical with his part, and cut him off when u have to (ie when something happens on the map).

3.) needs to be more PROFESSIONAL
-I'm not even talking about the eating and drinking during matches. i don't think this "relaxed mindset" during casting is so detrimental to the event,,, but..

- Please don't mention "sex" on-air again, or at least not say the word so downright. Esports is still largely unaccepted in society, even in korea (i'm a korean, so i know). If you don't act to the bare minimum on one of esports premier events, how do you expect people to start taking this sport seriously?
**THIS DOES NOT MEAN he should stop fooling around and start casting seriously. the Lax casting is a part of his charm, for the billionth time i've mentioned. Needing more professionalism DOESNT mean they need to stop being hilarious.

I know i might come off sounding too critical, but i realized Tastosis is and will most likely be the "voice" of starcraft 2 (for the foreigners, at least). Both casters are very likable, and i would like nothing more than the very best, since i'm one of those people who watches GSL's due to entertainment value i get from listening to you guys.

Thanks

**To the people who obviously is being overprotective of our casters, realize that this is NOTHING personal. Throwing out these facts isn't going to hurt anybody.


I'm a huge fan of Tastosis and i agree with most of the OP. There is room to improve, repeating some catchy phrases over and over again and cutting off with irrelevant comment happens to every caster, but i also noticed it on regular basis with Tasteless.
Anyway <3 Nick

Who actually gets offended by the mention of sex?


People get offended by NOT typing GG... (also learn to fucking read, OP didn't say that it's offensive to anyone. God please learn to read.)
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
June 13 2011 16:03 GMT
#453
I can't tell if this thread is meant to be serious.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
June 13 2011 16:06 GMT
#454
I don't think anyone could interrupt artosis enough.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
June 13 2011 16:33 GMT
#455
I'm relatively sure that in + Show Spoiler +
game 4 MKP vs. MMA
Tasteless was making fun of this guy.
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 13 2011 16:45 GMT
#456
I disagree with basically everything in the OP
Wat
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
June 13 2011 16:48 GMT
#457
sex is bad mmk?
TheAlchemist89
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
160 Posts
June 13 2011 16:49 GMT
#458
I hate to beat a dead horse as well... but I also totally disagree with with the entirety of the OP. I'm not sure why some people are so insistent on having eSports = Sports. I for one would stop watching eSports if they were treated exactly the way modern sports are treated..... eSports has a different charm, we should embrace that. Tasteless is far from vulgar when he's commentating.... he can get a bit edgy, but he definitely is still rather tame and enhances broadcasts with his charm and easy going nature. He's the perfect match for Artosis, who uses his intensity and knowledge to bring matches to life.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#459
I enjoy how you can tell Tasteless and Artosis are real life friends off-camera. They finish each others sentences and understand one another's humor. This is a complete dichotomy to Incontrol and Gretorp in the NASL which, I think we can all agree, is several notches below Tastosis.
Wat
Liight
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 17:05:36
June 13 2011 17:02 GMT
#460
Rofl, why does this thread have 23 pages.. ? When OP is clearly a troll or just the typical idiot with a rod up his ass that has to argue everything.
The fu*k cares how tasteless acts, theres a reason he's so poppular bro.

**To the people who obviously is being overprotective of our casters, realize that this is NOTHING personal. Throwing out these facts isn't going to hurt anybody.


This isnt facts, this is just you ranting about some guy you apperantly dislike.

tosis and tasteless are the last 2 persons in the sc2 scene that need to change.
It's been interesting.
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